Jakarta PMC Meeting Notes

[Jon Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>]

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Re: Jakarta PMC Meeting Notes

[Peter Donald <do...@apache.org>]

Hey,

Just as a clarification. My -1 for commons was not really due to duplicity
(I actually think duplicity is good). I wanted to avoid saying this ... but
I think it is going to fail ;) It has already made many of the same
mistakes that Avalon made except for one (but as soon as you hear people on
the list talking about "standardising" you know they have committed that
mistake aswell). It is only in this context (ie an unproven risky project
taking over charter of another for pure religious/political reasons) that I
objected to duplicity.

Hierarchial control is a no go for a project aimed at sharing - distributed
control is what makes cjan style projects work. I have serious issues with
the amount of red tape that has been proposed.

What I would have liked to see was to see the project work with others
while bootstrapping. ie CJAN would take jakarta-ant-cjan or
jakarta-alexandria-cjan with aim of becoming jakarta-cjan when/if it
matures. The commons CVS (ie controlled components) as part of an existing
project. etc This would have saved us from a vapourware project tarnishing
Apaches name if it failed to produce. 

Oh well at least this decision can be used as precedent for future
decisions, no ?
Cheers,

Pete

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