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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> on 2015/02/01 07:57:49 UTC

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

One question:
New Spark components skin: FlatSpark


Should that be:

New Spark component skins: FlatSpark

Or:

New Spark Theme: FlatSpark

-Alex

On 1/31/15, 10:44 AM, "omuppi1@gmail.com" <om...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Please review the draft announcement for 4.14.0.  The same will go out as
>a
>post on our blog as well.
>
>Thanks,
>Om
>
>============BEGIN DRAFT================
>
>The Apache Flex community is pleased to announce the release of Apache
>Flex
>SDK 4.14.0
>
>The Apache Flex SDK is a highly productive, open source application
>framework
>for building and maintaining expressive applications that deploy
>consistently
>on all major browsers, desktops and devices (including smartphones,
>tablets
>and TVs)
>
>Apache Flex SDK 4.14.0 is an update to Apache Flex SDK 4.13.0 that adds
>support for the following:
>
>   - iOS 7+ and Android 4.x+ mobile theme support
>   <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/7AAIAw>
>   <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/7AAIAw>
>   - New Spark components skin: FlatSpark
>   <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/wQEIAw>
>   - Spark RichTextEditor
>   - Native support for tables in TLF
>   - Promises/A+ <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/cIH_Ag>
>   - AIR 16 and Flash Player 16 Support
>   - Several bug fixes
>
>For more details, see the release notes at:
>http://www.apache.org/dist/flex/4.14.0/RELEASE_NOTES
>
>The Apache Flex SDK is available in source form from the following
>download
>page:
>http://flex.apache.org/download-source.html
>
>It is recommended that you install the Apache Flex SDK by using the Apache
>Flex SDK Installer:
>http://flex.apache.org/installer.html
>
>When downloading from a mirror site, please remember to verify the
>downloads
>using signatures or MD5 hashes.
>
>For more information on Apache Flex, visit the project home page:
>http://flex.apache.org
>
>Thank you for using Apache Flex!
>The Apache Flex Community
>
>============END DRAFT================


Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 2, 2015 2:26 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Om, thanks for picking this up.
>
> I've taken your original text and reworked it a bit. Without any great
> objections, I'll send the following announce email my tomorrow
> morning:

Welcome back!  It's all yours :-)

Thanks,
Om

>
> ============BEGIN DRAFT================
>
> The Apache Flex community is pleased to announce the release of Apache
> Flex SDK 4.14.0!
>
> The 4.14.0 update has over 50 bug fixes and adds the following features:
>
> - iOS 7+ and Android 4.x+ mobile theme support
>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/7AAIAw
> - New FlatSpark skins and components
>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/wQEIAw
> - Spark RichTextEditor
> - Native support for tables in TLF
> - Promises/A+
>     https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/cIH_Ag
> - AIR 16 and Flash Player 16 Support
>
> For more details, see the release notes at:
>
>     http://www.apache.org/dist/flex/4.14.0/RELEASE_NOTES
>
>
> It is recommended that you install this version of the Apache Flex SDK
> using the Apache Flex SDK Installer:
>
>     http://flex.apache.org/installer.html
>
>
> The Apache Flex SDK is available as source from the following download
page:
>
>     http://flex.apache.org/download-source.html
>
> After downloading, please remember to verify the files using
> signatures and MD5 hashes.
>
>
> The Apache Flex SDK is a highly productive, open source application
> framework for building and maintaining expressive applications that
> deploy consistently on all major browsers, desktops and devices
> (including smartphones, tablets and TVs).
>
> For more information on Apache Flex, visit the project home page:
>
>     http://flex.apache.org
>
>
> The Apache Flex Community
>
> ============END DRAFT================
>
> Thanks,
>
> EdB
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2/1/15, 10:37 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>> How about this idea?  Let’s leave the “bad news” out of the
> >>>announcement.
> >>> If we get folks running into it at 10 a day, we can separately blog
> >>>about
> >>> it.
> >>
> >>Sure, but how would we even know? We've had 300 odd installer failures
in
> >>the last few days and only a few emails to the list reporting the
> >>failures. This type of installer error is not logged so we can't even
use
> >>google analytics to see if they have been occurring.
> >
> > I trust our community to eventually speak up.  Instead of spending
energy
> > speculating about the unknowns around this issue, let’s spend the energy
> > on finding an RM for the installer and getting it out the door.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ix Multimedia Software
>
> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> 3521 VB Utrecht
>
> T. 06-51952295
> I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
There are:

- ButtonIcon
- TextInputIcon

EdB



On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Looks pretty good to me, one question:
>
> On 2/2/15, 2:23 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
>
>>- New FlatSpark skins and components
>
> Was there actually a new component?
>
> -Alex
>



-- 
Ix Multimedia Software

Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht

T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Looks pretty good to me, one question:

On 2/2/15, 2:23 AM, "Erik de Bruin" <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:


>- New FlatSpark skins and components

Was there actually a new component?

-Alex


Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>.
Hi!

Om, thanks for picking this up.

I've taken your original text and reworked it a bit. Without any great
objections, I'll send the following announce email my tomorrow
morning:

============BEGIN DRAFT================

The Apache Flex community is pleased to announce the release of Apache
Flex SDK 4.14.0!

The 4.14.0 update has over 50 bug fixes and adds the following features:

- iOS 7+ and Android 4.x+ mobile theme support
    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/7AAIAw
- New FlatSpark skins and components
    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/wQEIAw
- Spark RichTextEditor
- Native support for tables in TLF
- Promises/A+
    https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/cIH_Ag
- AIR 16 and Flash Player 16 Support

For more details, see the release notes at:

    http://www.apache.org/dist/flex/4.14.0/RELEASE_NOTES


It is recommended that you install this version of the Apache Flex SDK
using the Apache Flex SDK Installer:

    http://flex.apache.org/installer.html


The Apache Flex SDK is available as source from the following download page:

    http://flex.apache.org/download-source.html

After downloading, please remember to verify the files using
signatures and MD5 hashes.


The Apache Flex SDK is a highly productive, open source application
framework for building and maintaining expressive applications that
deploy consistently on all major browsers, desktops and devices
(including smartphones, tablets and TVs).

For more information on Apache Flex, visit the project home page:

    http://flex.apache.org


The Apache Flex Community

============END DRAFT================

Thanks,

EdB



On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/1/15, 10:37 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>> How about this idea?  Let’s leave the “bad news” out of the
>>>announcement.
>>> If we get folks running into it at 10 a day, we can separately blog
>>>about
>>> it.
>>
>>Sure, but how would we even know? We've had 300 odd installer failures in
>>the last few days and only a few emails to the list reporting the
>>failures. This type of installer error is not logged so we can't even use
>>google analytics to see if they have been occurring.
>
> I trust our community to eventually speak up.  Instead of spending energy
> speculating about the unknowns around this issue, let’s spend the energy
> on finding an RM for the installer and getting it out the door.
>
> -Alex
>



-- 
Ix Multimedia Software

Jan Luykenstraat 27
3521 VB Utrecht

T. 06-51952295
I. www.ixsoftware.nl

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 2/1/15, 10:37 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>> How about this idea?  Let’s leave the “bad news” out of the
>>announcement.
>> If we get folks running into it at 10 a day, we can separately blog
>>about
>> it.
>
>Sure, but how would we even know? We've had 300 odd installer failures in
>the last few days and only a few emails to the list reporting the
>failures. This type of installer error is not logged so we can't even use
>google analytics to see if they have been occurring.

I trust our community to eventually speak up.  Instead of spending energy
speculating about the unknowns around this issue, let’s spend the energy
on finding an RM for the installer and getting it out the door.

-Alex


Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> How about this idea?  Let’s leave the “bad news” out of the announcement.
> If we get folks running into it at 10 a day, we can separately blog about
> it.

Sure, but how would we even know? We've had 300 odd installer failures in the last few days and only a few emails to the list reporting the failures. This type of installer error is not logged so we can't even use google analytics to see if they have been occurring.

Justin

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.

On 2/1/15, 7:03 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>> How many would change the locale after initiating the installation
>> process?  I don't think that many.
>
>It is unknown how many people do this. But say it's only 5% of users
>that's currently about 10 users a day or about 250 a month.

How about this idea?  Let’s leave the “bad news” out of the announcement.
If we get folks running into it at 10 a day, we can separately blog about
it.

-Alex


Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

> How many would change the locale after initiating the installation
> process?  I don't think that many.

It is unknown how many people do this. But say it's only 5% of users that's currently about 10 users a day or about 250 a month.

Justin

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 1, 2015 6:07 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@me.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > -1 to this, since it is not a widespread issue.
>
> You may be mistaken there. Given that the majority of users are outside
of the US a large % of users are likely to change the locale. We don't have
stats on this so hard to know exactly, but I'd say it's a reasonable
interoperation from the google stats we do have.
>
> But even if you disagree on the  % of users isn't it better to err of the
side of caution rather than risk having a large number of users unable to
successfully install the SDK?  If that does happen we're unlikely to be
aware of the extent of the issue (it's not directly logged) as at a guess
less than 1% of errors are reported to the list. It's a know issue that is
likely to effect some (possibly many) users, what the harm in making that
know?

How many would change the locale after initiating the installation
process?  I don't think that many.

Thanks,
Om

>
> Thanks,
> Justin

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>.
Hi,

> -1 to this, since it is not a widespread issue.

You may be mistaken there. Given that the majority of users are outside of the US a large % of users are likely to change the locale. We don't have stats on this so hard to know exactly, but I'd say it's a reasonable interoperation from the google stats we do have.

But even if you disagree on the  % of users isn't it better to err of the side of caution rather than risk having a large number of users unable to successfully install the SDK?  If that does happen we're unlikely to be aware of the extent of the issue (it's not directly logged) as at a guess less than 1% of errors are reported to the list. It's a know issue that is likely to effect some (possibly many) users, what the harm in making that know?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 1, 2015 4:07 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You may want to add something about the issues with the installer (may
RTE or not display licenses correctly and not create a working SDK) if you
change the locale.

-1 to this, since it is not a widespread issue.

Thanks,
Om

>
> Justin

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,

You may want to add something about the issues with the installer (may RTE or not display licenses correctly and not create a working SDK) if you change the locale.

Justin

Re: [DRAFT] Apache Flex 4.14.0 released!

Posted by Mahmoud Ali <mu...@gmail.com>.
I think it should be "skins". FlatSpark is not yet ready to be used as a
complete theme.