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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Pozsar Balazs <po...@uhulinux.hu> on 2003/07/17 16:02:13 UTC

download url

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Hi all,

I have a simple question: what good it is to have the download url with
those "magic" numbers in them? Why not provide some sane and fix url like
http://subversion.tigris.org/files/subversion-0.XX.tar.gz ?

Sorry if you find this intrusive, but I cannot see the reason and do think
this is annoying.

bye,
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pozsy


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Re: download url

Posted by kf...@collab.net.
Pozsar Balazs <po...@uhulinux.hu> writes:
> Why not simply put all the versions in 1 directory? Like:
> http://.../files/subversion-0.20.tar.gz
>                  subversion-0.24.2.tar.gz
>                  subversion-0.30.tar.gz
>                  ...
> 
> Maybe if you think it would be too many files in a directory (i do think
> it's not, but anyway), you could create an "old" directory, where _all_
> (old and current) versions are available, and in the outer dir only the
> most current version(s).

Oh!  I see what you mean.

That has to do with the way the tigris.org file sharing area works.
Just think of it as a bug in the server, that's not high enough
priority for us to find a workaround.

(No one prefers the current way, if that's what you're asking.)

-K

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Re: download url

Posted by Pozsar Balazs <po...@uhulinux.hu>.
On 17 Jul 2003 kfogel@collab.net wrote:

> Pozsar Balazs <po...@uhulinux.hu> writes:
> > I have a simple question: what good it is to have the download url with
> > those "magic" numbers in them? Why not provide some sane and fix url like
> > http://subversion.tigris.org/files/subversion-0.XX.tar.gz ?
> >
> > Sorry if you find this intrusive, but I cannot see the reason and do think
> > this is annoying.
>
> A reasonable question.  The answer is, because we keep old copies of
> Subversion available (sometimes people need to downgrade to test if a
> bug is new, for example, or to dump an old repository).  So there are
> multiple tarballs available at any given moment.
[...]
> Some projects have a symlink that always links to the latest version,
> i.e., just grab http://.../subversion.tar.gz, which references the
> latest.  The problem with that is that now you have a release URL
> whose meaning changes depending on when you access it.  We decided to
> keep things absolutely predictable by always including the numeric
> portion in the URL.

Why not simply put all the versions in 1 directory? Like:
http://.../files/subversion-0.20.tar.gz
                 subversion-0.24.2.tar.gz
                 subversion-0.30.tar.gz
                 ...

Maybe if you think it would be too many files in a directory (i do think
it's not, but anyway), you could create an "old" directory, where _all_
(old and current) versions are available, and in the outer dir only the
most current version(s).

> If you're *trying* to download Subversion 0.27.2, then you can easily
> make the correct URL, yet Subversion 0.27.1 is also still available
> for those who need it.

How can I know the exact url if I only know that I need eg 0.27.2?


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Re: download url

Posted by kf...@collab.net.
Pozsar Balazs <po...@uhulinux.hu> writes:
> I have a simple question: what good it is to have the download url with
> those "magic" numbers in them? Why not provide some sane and fix url like
> http://subversion.tigris.org/files/subversion-0.XX.tar.gz ?
> 
> Sorry if you find this intrusive, but I cannot see the reason and do think
> this is annoying.

A reasonable question.  The answer is, because we keep old copies of
Subversion available (sometimes people need to downgrade to test if a
bug is new, for example, or to dump an old repository).  So there are
multiple tarballs available at any given moment.

If you're *trying* to download Subversion 0.27.2, then you can easily
make the correct URL, yet Subversion 0.27.1 is also still available
for those who need it.  If you just know that you want the latest,
then just find out what the latest version is, and grab the
appropriate URL.

Some projects have a symlink that always links to the latest version,
i.e., just grab http://.../subversion.tar.gz, which references the
latest.  The problem with that is that now you have a release URL
whose meaning changes depending on when you access it.  We decided to
keep things absolutely predictable by always including the numeric
portion in the URL.

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