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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Eric Tsang <er...@msc-global.com> on 2006/06/07 12:12:40 UTC

Look for help on windows server platform

Hi,

 

I am having a serious trouble on production subversion with below
setting:

 

Windows 2003 Server x64 Std.

Apache 2.0.54

Subversion 1.2.1 with windows auth.

 

My problem is, 

The subversion (or maybe apache) just stops responding after several
days.

I tried to restart the server, it just came out black screen with a
moveable cursor, no blue screen,

not hang.

 

I am urgently looking for help on this issue, any advisories will be
appreciated.

 


Re: Look for help on windows server platform

Posted by Eric Lemes <er...@gmail.com>.
Hello Eric,

I'm using W2K3, SVN 1.3.1 and Apache 2.0.58 and I have a stable server.

If I could, I choose linux, but my corporation likes windows, so there it
goes.

Perhaps if you can send more details of your stability problems we can help
you.


[]'s

Eric Lemes

On 6/7/06, Darko Miletic <da...@uvcms.com> wrote:
>
> Eric Tsang wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am having a serious trouble on production subversion with below
> setting:
> >
> >
> >
> > Windows 2003 Server x64 Std.
> >
> > Apache 2.0.54
> >
> > Subversion 1.2.1 with windows auth.
> >
> >
> >
> > My problem is,
> >
> > The subversion (or maybe apache) just stops responding after several
> days.
>
> I use subversion a lot and from my experience if you need something that
> works 24 hours 7 days in a week you will need to switch to linux. Apache
> on windows simply can not compare with apache on linux.
>
> I recommend you to install Redhat Enterprise 4 or at least CentOS 4.2
> and you will see it working like a charm, and you should at least use
> subversion 1.2.3 because it is the first really good version that is
> fully usable.
>
>
>
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Re: Look for help on windows server platform

Posted by Nico Kadel-Garcia <nk...@comcast.net>.
Darko Miletic wrote:
> Andy Levy wrote:
>> Changing server OSes is hardly a trivial task, especially in a large
>> corporate environment - nor is it a guarantee of a fix (consider the
>> damage done to the reputations of Apache, Linux, and SVN in his
>> organization if switching to Linux didn't solve the problem).
>> Corporations don't just switch their server OS on a whim.
>>
>> Moreover, this SVN server may do multiple jobs, all requiring
>> Windows. Making a switch that much harder.
>>
>> Windows 2003 is a pretty solid OS, and there are lots of people
>> running Apache on it successfully.
>>
>> Let's focus instead on helping him get the system he has working
>> properly.
>
> OK. I agree here with you. I just said that using linux as subversion
> server is better. But if he can not do that than I guess he can try
> several things:
>
> 1. Change version of apache and subversion he uses to more recent.
> 2. Setup subversion as a windows service and use it without apache. In
> fact that is more appropriate setup for windows server. This also
> assumes using more recent version of subversion.
>
> Darko

And switch to FSFS instead of BDB for the back-end, if feasible: I've come 
to really prefer FSFS, partly because it vastly eases migration of 
subversion from one server to another by avoiding conflicts in versions of 
BDB. 

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Re: Look for help on windows server platform

Posted by Darko Miletic <da...@uvcms.com>.
Andy Levy wrote:
> Changing server OSes is hardly a trivial task, especially in a large
> corporate environment - nor is it a guarantee of a fix (consider the
> damage done to the reputations of Apache, Linux, and SVN in his
> organization if switching to Linux didn't solve the problem).
> Corporations don't just switch their server OS on a whim.
> 
> Moreover, this SVN server may do multiple jobs, all requiring Windows.
> Making a switch that much harder.
> 
> Windows 2003 is a pretty solid OS, and there are lots of people
> running Apache on it successfully.
> 
> Let's focus instead on helping him get the system he has working properly.

OK. I agree here with you. I just said that using linux as subversion
server is better. But if he can not do that than I guess he can try
several things:

1. Change version of apache and subversion he uses to more recent.
2. Setup subversion as a windows service and use it without apache. In
fact that is more appropriate setup for windows server. This also
assumes using more recent version of subversion.

Darko

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Re: Look for help on windows server platform

Posted by Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com>.
On 6/7/06, Darko Miletic <da...@uvcms.com> wrote:
> Eric Tsang wrote:
> > I am having a serious trouble on production subversion with below setting:
> >
> >
> >
> > Windows 2003 Server x64 Std.
> > Apache 2.0.54
> > Subversion 1.2.1 with windows auth.
> > My problem is,
> > The subversion (or maybe apache) just stops responding after several days.
>
> I use subversion a lot and from my experience if you need something that
> works 24 hours 7 days in a week you will need to switch to linux. Apache
>  on windows simply can not compare with apache on linux.

Changing server OSes is hardly a trivial task, especially in a large
corporate environment - nor is it a guarantee of a fix (consider the
damage done to the reputations of Apache, Linux, and SVN in his
organization if switching to Linux didn't solve the problem).
Corporations don't just switch their server OS on a whim.

Moreover, this SVN server may do multiple jobs, all requiring Windows.
 Making a switch that much harder.

Windows 2003 is a pretty solid OS, and there are lots of people
running Apache on it successfully.

Let's focus instead on helping him get the system he has working properly.

> I recommend you to install Redhat Enterprise 4 or at least CentOS 4.2
> and you will see it working like a charm, and you should at least use
> subversion 1.2.3 because it is the first really good version that is
> fully usable.

Moving up to a known solid SVN release is a smart move - 1.2.1 is
pretty old, 1.2.3 would be good or even 1.3.x.  Eric may also want to
look for x64-native builds of Apache & SVN, as they may help reduce
conflicts & weird behavior.

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Re: Look for help on windows server platform

Posted by Darko Miletic <da...@uvcms.com>.
Eric Tsang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I am having a serious trouble on production subversion with below setting:
> 
>  
> 
> Windows 2003 Server x64 Std.
> 
> Apache 2.0.54
> 
> Subversion 1.2.1 with windows auth.
> 
>  
> 
> My problem is,
> 
> The subversion (or maybe apache) just stops responding after several days.

I use subversion a lot and from my experience if you need something that
works 24 hours 7 days in a week you will need to switch to linux. Apache
 on windows simply can not compare with apache on linux.

I recommend you to install Redhat Enterprise 4 or at least CentOS 4.2
and you will see it working like a charm, and you should at least use
subversion 1.2.3 because it is the first really good version that is
fully usable.



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Re: Look for help on windows server platform

Posted by "D.J. Heap" <dj...@gmail.com>.
On 6/7/06, Eric Tsang <er...@msc-global.com> wrote:
[snip]
> The subversion (or maybe apache) just stops responding after several days.
>
> I tried to restart the server, it just came out black screen with a moveable
> cursor, no blue screen,
>
> not hang.
>
>
>
> I am urgently looking for help on this issue, any advisories will be
> appreciated.
>


So Windows didn't even come back up all the way?  That is likely a
hardware or driver issue.

DJ

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Re: Look for help on windows server platform

Posted by Andy Levy <an...@gmail.com>.
On 6/7/06, Eric Tsang <er...@msc-global.com> wrote:
> I am having a serious trouble on production subversion with below setting:
>
> Windows 2003 Server x64 Std.
> Apache 2.0.54
> Subversion 1.2.1 with windows auth.
>
>
>
> My problem is,
>
> The subversion (or maybe apache) just stops responding after several days.
>
> I tried to restart the server, it just came out black screen with a moveable
> cursor, no blue screen,
>
> not hang.

So what exactly is the state of the server right now?  Can you access
it at all?  Anything in the Apache logs?  Anything in the
System/Application/Event logs?  Does it just not boot fully?

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