[OT] RE: That doesn't work ...

[Dave Newton <DN...@hibbertgroup.com>]

From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:chris@christopherschultz.net]
> If you were interested in answering the question, you should have
> asked for more information. Instead, you called the OT an idiot.

Actually, I suggested the poster to encapsulate the question and provide
enough information to allow people to answer it without having to
investigate further than the post, which in this case would have been
trivial.

It is a rare occasion that I will call people names and I take umbrage
at the suggestion that that is what I did, because clearly, I didn't.

I'd also suggest that telling a poster that providing more information
is more likely to lead to an answer is an implicit request for more
information, which seems obvious to me.

> If you aren't interested in answering the question, then don't bother
> posting.

... Hrm.

Dave


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Re: [OT] RE: That doesn't work ...

[Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>]

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Dave,

For reference, your complete original message:

> Also, in general, saying "this doesn't work" is not likely to generate
> any responses, because you don't actually state the actual vs. desired
> behavior.
> 
> I don't call up tech support and say "My TV doesn't work." And wait for
> them to tell me why not.
> 
> Well, actually, I did once, because I was angry and had already called a
> half-dozen times, but that's a pathological usecase.


Dave Newton wrote:
> Actually, I suggested the poster to encapsulate the question and provide
> enough information to allow people to answer it without having to
> investigate further than the post, which in this case would have been
> trivial.

Please highlight the relevant sections. You requested nothing. You said,
in effect, "nobody is going to answer your question".

> I'd also suggest that telling a poster that providing more information
> is more likely to lead to an answer is an implicit request for more
> information, which seems obvious to me.

It clearly wasn't obvious to the OP, or else he would have provided that
information. Since you continued to assume that a request for more
information was obvious, you failed to request it, resulting in a
dubiously useful post.

>> If you aren't interested in answering the question, then don't bother
>> posting.
> 
> ... Hrm.

If that's a "hrm" in reference to my claiming that a non-answering post
is useless, then let me correct you. My post (which certainly did not
attempt to answer the question) should be considered a "list etiquette
reminder".

- -chris

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Re: [OT] RE: That doesn't work ...

[CHARLIER Cyril <cy...@gmail.com>]

Dave Newton a écrit :
> From: Christopher Schultz [mailto:chris@christopherschultz.net]
>   
>> If you were interested in answering the question, you should have
>> asked for more information. Instead, you called the OT an idiot.
>>     
>
> Actually, I suggested the poster to encapsulate the question and provide
> enough information to allow people to answer it without having to
> investigate further than the post, which in this case would have been
> trivial.
>
> It is a rare occasion that I will call people names and I take umbrage
> at the suggestion that that is what I did, because clearly, I didn't.
>
> I'd also suggest that telling a poster that providing more information
> is more likely to lead to an answer is an implicit request for more
> information, which seems obvious to me.
>
>   
>> If you aren't interested in answering the question, then don't bother
>> posting.
>>     
>
> ... Hrm.
>
> Dave
>
>
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>   
Thank you for your comments and sorry with my poor information for my 
problem.
I start with NetBeans (Before i was with Eclipse) and Struts (Before I 
used my own framework).

I would write more information with my next problem ;-)

--
Cyril

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