[TTH] The old fart is back, aka let's fix this community ;-)

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

Hi Flex community,

I had private discussions with both Justin and Alex in the last few
days, and as a former incubation mentor of this project it saddens me
to hear that you're having difficulties agreeing on things, so I'm
back here to try and help.

It's not uncommon in Apache projects to disagree, not at all...there's
some things on which people will never agree (especially in email)
although neither side is right or wrong. The usual answer is to make
things more modular, and I think the Apache HTTP server project is the
best example of that. Very modular!

I'll start another thread on the english vs. international language issue.
I'll use a [TTH] marker in those emails, as in "trying to help" ;-)

-Bertrand
(BTW I'm not "the board member who's been trying to follow" - I'm
intentionally not subscribing to your private list at the moment, even
though as an Apache member I could)

Re: [TTH] The old fart is back, aka let's fix this community ;-)

[Chris Martin <wi...@gmail.com>]

Hey Bertrand,

Welcome back and thank you for taking the time to give us some guidance.

Chris

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I second that.
>
> On Nov 26, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:
>
> >  "Thank you for helping out!"
>
>

Re: [TTH] The old fart is back, aka let's fix this community ;-)

[Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>]

I second that.

On Nov 26, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl> wrote:

>  "Thank you for helping out!"

Re: [TTH] The old fart is back, aka let's fix this community ;-)

[Erik de Bruin <er...@ixsoftware.nl>]

Bertand,

The situation has been getting out of hand a bit, and the project
certainly can use some guidance and arbitration at the moment.

Having said that, I'm sorry you have to spend time on this and hope
that soon we'll have a consensus on how to handle the various
situations/issues that seem to be causing us so much trouble.

But for now, let me be the first to say: "Thank you for helping out!"

EdB



On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Flex community,
>
> I had private discussions with both Justin and Alex in the last few
> days, and as a former incubation mentor of this project it saddens me
> to hear that you're having difficulties agreeing on things, so I'm
> back here to try and help.
>
> It's not uncommon in Apache projects to disagree, not at all...there's
> some things on which people will never agree (especially in email)
> although neither side is right or wrong. The usual answer is to make
> things more modular, and I think the Apache HTTP server project is the
> best example of that. Very modular!
>
> I'll start another thread on the english vs. international language issue.
> I'll use a [TTH] marker in those emails, as in "trying to help" ;-)
>
> -Bertrand
> (BTW I'm not "the board member who's been trying to follow" - I'm
> intentionally not subscribing to your private list at the moment, even
> though as an Apache member I could)



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Re: [TTH] The old fart is back, aka let's fix this community ;-)

[Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>]

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...I'm intentionally not subscribing to your private list at the moment...

FWIW, I have also subscribed to that list now, as I felt I didn't have
the complete picture.

-Bertrand