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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> on 2012/06/27 22:54:47 UTC

Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-cloud.png

This looks at the top 1000 terms used in ooo-dev post subjects since
this project moved to Apache in June 2011.  The only thing I removed
was "Re:", since that would have dominated the cloud and is machine,
not user written

In this particular cloud, I used all posts, including responses.  So
if a term was used in a thread that had many responses, it would have
additional weight in this chart.

Technologies used:

Python's mailbox API to extract the post titles.  Could have done this
with any number of command line text tools as well, but it is trivial
in Python as well:

import mailbox

box = mailbox.mbox(fileName)

for message in box:
     print message['Subject']


Then I used Wordle.net to generate the graphic.

Based on the reaction given to the previous word cloud, I know that
some list subscribers are curious to see how often we write about
LibreOffice.  So I'll help you find it in this graphic.  Look for the
big "AOO", then under that see the "COMMIT".  Under COMMIT you can
make out LIBREOFFICE, to the left of USERS.

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

Posted by Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>.
KG01 - See comments inline.

On Saturday, June 30, 2012, Rob Weir wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Kevin Grignon
> <kevingrignon.oo@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >KG01 - Great stuff Rob. These simple analytics are really interesting.
> *Would
> > you be open to harvesting and sharing the extracted post titles for both
> > ooo-dev and ooo-users and sending along to me*. The Python bit is
> > unfamiliar to me. The text files, like you did for the twitter feeds
> would
> > be great. Then I can go into wordle and tweak, using a variety of
> filters.
> > Also, I am exploring other analytic tools to parse the data. Thanks.
> >
>
> Here they are:
>
> http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-subjects.zip
> http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-users-subjects.zip
>
> -Rob


KG01 - Thanks for sharing. I'll see what I can do with this raw data.
>
>
> >
> >
> >> >> In this particular cloud, I used all posts, including responses.  So
> >> >> if a term was used in a thread that had many responses, it would have
> >> >> additional weight in this chart.
> >> >>
> >> >> Technologies used:
> >> >>
> >> >> Python's mailbox API to extract the post titles.  Could have done
> this
> >> >> with any number of command line text tools as well, but it is trivial
> >> >> in Python as well:
> >> >>
> >> >> import mailbox
> >> >>
> >> >> box = mailbox.mbox(fileName)
> >> >>
> >> >> for message in box:
> >> >>     print message['Subject']
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Then I used Wordle.net to generate the graphic.
> >> >>
> >> >> Based on the reaction given to the previous word cloud, I know that
> >> >> some list subscribers are curious to see how often we write about
> >> >> LibreOffice.  So I'll help you find it in this graphic.  Look for the
> >> >> big "AOO", then under that see the "COMMIT".  Under COMMIT you can
> >> >> make out LIBREOFFICE, to the left of USERS.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> -Rob
> >> >
> >> > Somehow not as stylish in this font.
> >> >
> >> > "Bug" is visible in this one.  No one tweets about bugs?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I think this is a user/developer difference.  Users talk in more
> >> direct terms, about how bugs impact them.    So very few mention a
> >> "bug".  But 18 mentions on Twitter of some form of
> >> crash/crashed/crashing.   On the ooo-dev list we call these "bugs" or
> >> "issues".  Users "lose all their work".  We "debug an exception".  The
> >> army "pacifies the village", etc.
> >>
> >> It is good to remember the difference in impact our work (good or bad)
> >> has on others, even though we use more clinical terms on this list.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >>
> >> > Don
> >>
>

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Kevin Grignon
<ke...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

>KG01 - Great stuff Rob. These simple analytics are really interesting. *Would
> you be open to harvesting and sharing the extracted post titles for both
> ooo-dev and ooo-users and sending along to me*. The Python bit is
> unfamiliar to me. The text files, like you did for the twitter feeds would
> be great. Then I can go into wordle and tweak, using a variety of filters.
> Also, I am exploring other analytic tools to parse the data. Thanks.
>

Here they are:

http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-subjects.zip
http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-users-subjects.zip

-Rob

>
>
>> >> In this particular cloud, I used all posts, including responses.  So
>> >> if a term was used in a thread that had many responses, it would have
>> >> additional weight in this chart.
>> >>
>> >> Technologies used:
>> >>
>> >> Python's mailbox API to extract the post titles.  Could have done this
>> >> with any number of command line text tools as well, but it is trivial
>> >> in Python as well:
>> >>
>> >> import mailbox
>> >>
>> >> box = mailbox.mbox(fileName)
>> >>
>> >> for message in box:
>> >>     print message['Subject']
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Then I used Wordle.net to generate the graphic.
>> >>
>> >> Based on the reaction given to the previous word cloud, I know that
>> >> some list subscribers are curious to see how often we write about
>> >> LibreOffice.  So I'll help you find it in this graphic.  Look for the
>> >> big "AOO", then under that see the "COMMIT".  Under COMMIT you can
>> >> make out LIBREOFFICE, to the left of USERS.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >
>> > Somehow not as stylish in this font.
>> >
>> > "Bug" is visible in this one.  No one tweets about bugs?
>> >
>>
>> I think this is a user/developer difference.  Users talk in more
>> direct terms, about how bugs impact them.    So very few mention a
>> "bug".  But 18 mentions on Twitter of some form of
>> crash/crashed/crashing.   On the ooo-dev list we call these "bugs" or
>> "issues".  Users "lose all their work".  We "debug an exception".  The
>> army "pacifies the village", etc.
>>
>> It is good to remember the difference in impact our work (good or bad)
>> has on others, even though we use more clinical terms on this list.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > Don
>>

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Kevin Grignon
<ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> KG01 - See comments inline.
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-cloud.png
>> >>
>> >> This looks at the top 1000 terms used in ooo-dev post subjects since
>> >> this project moved to Apache in June 2011.  The only thing I removed
>> >> was "Re:", since that would have dominated the cloud and is machine,
>> >> not user written
>> >>
>>
>
> KG01 - Great stuff Rob. These simple analytics are really interesting. *Would
> you be open to harvesting and sharing the extracted post titles for both
> ooo-dev and ooo-users and sending along to me*. The Python bit is
> unfamiliar to me. The text files, like you did for the twitter feeds would
> be great. Then I can go into wordle and tweak, using a variety of filters.
> Also, I am exploring other analytic tools to parse the data. Thanks.
>

Post titles on the users list tend to be short and not very
informative.  We see a lot that just say "Bug", or "OpenOffice
problem", or "Help".

I can certainly provide the subjects.  But I wonder what would happen
if we took the entire text of each root post (skipping responses)?
That might give greater context.

Twitter tweets are somewhat intermediate, longer than a typical post
title, but shorter than a post.

-Rob

>
>
>> >> In this particular cloud, I used all posts, including responses.  So
>> >> if a term was used in a thread that had many responses, it would have
>> >> additional weight in this chart.
>> >>
>> >> Technologies used:
>> >>
>> >> Python's mailbox API to extract the post titles.  Could have done this
>> >> with any number of command line text tools as well, but it is trivial
>> >> in Python as well:
>> >>
>> >> import mailbox
>> >>
>> >> box = mailbox.mbox(fileName)
>> >>
>> >> for message in box:
>> >>     print message['Subject']
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Then I used Wordle.net to generate the graphic.
>> >>
>> >> Based on the reaction given to the previous word cloud, I know that
>> >> some list subscribers are curious to see how often we write about
>> >> LibreOffice.  So I'll help you find it in this graphic.  Look for the
>> >> big "AOO", then under that see the "COMMIT".  Under COMMIT you can
>> >> make out LIBREOFFICE, to the left of USERS.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >
>> > Somehow not as stylish in this font.
>> >
>> > "Bug" is visible in this one.  No one tweets about bugs?
>> >
>>
>> I think this is a user/developer difference.  Users talk in more
>> direct terms, about how bugs impact them.    So very few mention a
>> "bug".  But 18 mentions on Twitter of some form of
>> crash/crashed/crashing.   On the ooo-dev list we call these "bugs" or
>> "issues".  Users "lose all their work".  We "debug an exception".  The
>> army "pacifies the village", etc.
>>
>> It is good to remember the difference in impact our work (good or bad)
>> has on others, even though we use more clinical terms on this list.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>> > Don
>>

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

Posted by Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>.
KG01 - See comments inline.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-cloud.png
> >>
> >> This looks at the top 1000 terms used in ooo-dev post subjects since
> >> this project moved to Apache in June 2011.  The only thing I removed
> >> was "Re:", since that would have dominated the cloud and is machine,
> >> not user written
> >>
>

KG01 - Great stuff Rob. These simple analytics are really interesting. *Would
you be open to harvesting and sharing the extracted post titles for both
ooo-dev and ooo-users and sending along to me*. The Python bit is
unfamiliar to me. The text files, like you did for the twitter feeds would
be great. Then I can go into wordle and tweak, using a variety of filters.
Also, I am exploring other analytic tools to parse the data. Thanks.



> >> In this particular cloud, I used all posts, including responses.  So
> >> if a term was used in a thread that had many responses, it would have
> >> additional weight in this chart.
> >>
> >> Technologies used:
> >>
> >> Python's mailbox API to extract the post titles.  Could have done this
> >> with any number of command line text tools as well, but it is trivial
> >> in Python as well:
> >>
> >> import mailbox
> >>
> >> box = mailbox.mbox(fileName)
> >>
> >> for message in box:
> >>     print message['Subject']
> >>
> >>
> >> Then I used Wordle.net to generate the graphic.
> >>
> >> Based on the reaction given to the previous word cloud, I know that
> >> some list subscribers are curious to see how often we write about
> >> LibreOffice.  So I'll help you find it in this graphic.  Look for the
> >> big "AOO", then under that see the "COMMIT".  Under COMMIT you can
> >> make out LIBREOFFICE, to the left of USERS.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >
> > Somehow not as stylish in this font.
> >
> > "Bug" is visible in this one.  No one tweets about bugs?
> >
>
> I think this is a user/developer difference.  Users talk in more
> direct terms, about how bugs impact them.    So very few mention a
> "bug".  But 18 mentions on Twitter of some form of
> crash/crashed/crashing.   On the ooo-dev list we call these "bugs" or
> "issues".  Users "lose all their work".  We "debug an exception".  The
> army "pacifies the village", etc.
>
> It is good to remember the difference in impact our work (good or bad)
> has on others, even though we use more clinical terms on this list.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > Don
>

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-cloud.png
>>
>> This looks at the top 1000 terms used in ooo-dev post subjects since
>> this project moved to Apache in June 2011.  The only thing I removed
>> was "Re:", since that would have dominated the cloud and is machine,
>> not user written
>>
>> In this particular cloud, I used all posts, including responses.  So
>> if a term was used in a thread that had many responses, it would have
>> additional weight in this chart.
>>
>> Technologies used:
>>
>> Python's mailbox API to extract the post titles.  Could have done this
>> with any number of command line text tools as well, but it is trivial
>> in Python as well:
>>
>> import mailbox
>>
>> box = mailbox.mbox(fileName)
>>
>> for message in box:
>>     print message['Subject']
>>
>>
>> Then I used Wordle.net to generate the graphic.
>>
>> Based on the reaction given to the previous word cloud, I know that
>> some list subscribers are curious to see how often we write about
>> LibreOffice.  So I'll help you find it in this graphic.  Look for the
>> big "AOO", then under that see the "COMMIT".  Under COMMIT you can
>> make out LIBREOFFICE, to the left of USERS.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>
> Somehow not as stylish in this font.
>
> "Bug" is visible in this one.  No one tweets about bugs?
>

I think this is a user/developer difference.  Users talk in more
direct terms, about how bugs impact them.    So very few mention a
"bug".  But 18 mentions on Twitter of some form of
crash/crashed/crashing.   On the ooo-dev list we call these "bugs" or
"issues".  Users "lose all their work".  We "debug an exception".  The
army "pacifies the village", etc.

It is good to remember the difference in impact our work (good or bad)
has on others, even though we use more clinical terms on this list.

-Rob


> Don

Re: Word cloud for ooo-dev post subjects

Posted by Donald Whytock <dw...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> http://people.apache.org/~robweir/ooo-dev-cloud.png
>
> This looks at the top 1000 terms used in ooo-dev post subjects since
> this project moved to Apache in June 2011.  The only thing I removed
> was "Re:", since that would have dominated the cloud and is machine,
> not user written
>
> In this particular cloud, I used all posts, including responses.  So
> if a term was used in a thread that had many responses, it would have
> additional weight in this chart.
>
> Technologies used:
>
> Python's mailbox API to extract the post titles.  Could have done this
> with any number of command line text tools as well, but it is trivial
> in Python as well:
>
> import mailbox
>
> box = mailbox.mbox(fileName)
>
> for message in box:
>     print message['Subject']
>
>
> Then I used Wordle.net to generate the graphic.
>
> Based on the reaction given to the previous word cloud, I know that
> some list subscribers are curious to see how often we write about
> LibreOffice.  So I'll help you find it in this graphic.  Look for the
> big "AOO", then under that see the "COMMIT".  Under COMMIT you can
> make out LIBREOFFICE, to the left of USERS.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob

Somehow not as stylish in this font.

"Bug" is visible in this one.  No one tweets about bugs?

Don