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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> on 2011/07/05 19:05:09 UTC
Project shutdown guide?
Is there a list someplace of the steps to take to shutdown a project? On
the website, I see entry guides, podling guides, graduation guides, etc....
but not a shutdown/termination guide.
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Re: Project shutdown guide?
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org>.
Daniel Kulp wrote:
> Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> > What is with user accounts of people who are not active in other
> > apache projects and started at the ASF with the retired project? Are
> > the accounts closed too?
> >
> > Any more ideas?
> >
> > I am +1 for creating a page on the incubator site with a shutdown guide,
> > btw.
>
> +1
>
> I did find this page on the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlings
>
> but I definitely think an official guide on the web page would be more
> appropriate.
The question came up again recently. I scoured the archives
and found some relevant links to past discussion and
effort on this topic.
Re: process for going Dormant/Retired
http://s.apache.org/oN
It certainly does need collecting into an i.a.o web page.
-David
> > > * Check copyright checkbox is signed off on.
> > > ** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on.
> > > *** If so, sign off with current date.
> > > *** If not, remove source.
> > >
> > > Hen
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> Is there a list someplace of the steps to take to shutdown a project?
> > >> On the website, I see entry guides, podling guides, graduation
> > >> guides, etc.... but not a shutdown/termination guide.
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Re: Project shutdown guide?
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
On Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:56:49 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote:
> What is with user accounts of people who are not active in other
> apache projects and started at the ASF with the retired project? Are
> the accounts closed too?
>
> Any more ideas?
>
> I am +1 for creating a page on the incubator site with a shutdown guide,
> btw.
+1
I did find this page on the wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlings
but I definitely think an official guide on the web page would be more
appropriate.
Dan
>
> Cheers,
> Christian
>
> > +
> >
> > * Check copyright checkbox is signed off on.
> > ** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on.
> > *** If so, sign off with current date.
> > *** If not, remove source.
> >
> > Hen
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Is there a list someplace of the steps to take to shutdown a project?
> >> On the website, I see entry guides, podling guides, graduation
> >> guides, etc.... but not a shutdown/termination guide.
> >>
> >>
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Re: Project shutdown guide?
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
>> I am +1 for creating a page on the incubator site with a shutdown guide, btw.
>
> Go for it :)
I just added the retirement guide:
http://bit.ly/pv9IZ9
I have NOT included it into the main navigation. I wanted to wait
until it is complete (and my english errors are fixed ;-))
I tried to use the list we discussed, plus
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RetiringPodlings
http://s.apache.org/oN (Clutch)
For me it is fine - comments/corrections welcome (of course)
Cheers
Christian
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Re: Project shutdown guide?
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Currently I'd describe it as:
>> http://attic.apache.org/process.html
>
>
> So, is a failed incubation project going into the attic? I don't think
> so. In addition i don't think board needs to approve that, this is
> incubator business.
Agreed. The attic will link over to the Incubator's retired page.
> So my list would be with what Henri said:
>
>> * Check copyright checkbox is signed off on.
>> ** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on.
>> *** If so, sign off with current date.
>> *** If not, remove source.
>
> Plus:
>
> - Update incubator status page with message: "2006-06-24 Project
> requested to be withdrawn from incubation."
> - Move project in projects.xml to "retired" section
> - Update the project DOAP file
> - make SVN readonly
> - make Jira/Bugzilla readonly
> - Turn off automated builds
> - Remove from incubator.apache.org main navigation, but leave it in
> the retired section of projects.xml
> - close mailinglists
> - Announce on general@incubator.apache.org
> - make wiki readonly (if possible)
> - remove from reporting schedule
Seems good.
> What is with user accounts of people who are not active in other
> apache projects and started at the ASF with the retired project? Are
> the accounts closed too?
No need imo. If individuals don't connect for X years and infra want
to tighten things up then they can make accounts dormant in a separate
process. I don't think there's a need to drive out committers who
don't have any permissions to commit to a project.
> Any more ideas?
>
> I am +1 for creating a page on the incubator site with a shutdown guide, btw.
Go for it :)
Hen
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Re: Project shutdown guide?
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:53 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Currently I'd describe it as:
> http://attic.apache.org/process.html
So, is a failed incubation project going into the attic? I don't think
so. In addition i don't think board needs to approve that, this is
incubator business.
So my list would be with what Henri said:
> * Check copyright checkbox is signed off on.
> ** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on.
> *** If so, sign off with current date.
> *** If not, remove source.
Plus:
- Update incubator status page with message: "2006-06-24 Project
requested to be withdrawn from incubation."
- Move project in projects.xml to "retired" section
- Update the project DOAP file
- make SVN readonly
- make Jira/Bugzilla readonly
- Turn off automated builds
- Remove from incubator.apache.org main navigation, but leave it in
the retired section of projects.xml
- close mailinglists
- Announce on general@incubator.apache.org
- make wiki readonly (if possible)
- remove from reporting schedule
What is with user accounts of people who are not active in other
apache projects and started at the ASF with the retired project? Are
the accounts closed too?
Any more ideas?
I am +1 for creating a page on the incubator site with a shutdown guide, btw.
Cheers,
Christian
> +
>
> * Check copyright checkbox is signed off on.
> ** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on.
> *** If so, sign off with current date.
> *** If not, remove source.
>
> Hen
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Is there a list someplace of the steps to take to shutdown a project? On
>> the website, I see entry guides, podling guides, graduation guides, etc....
>> but not a shutdown/termination guide.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Kulp
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://dankulp.com/blog
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
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Re: Project shutdown guide?
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
Currently I'd describe it as:
http://attic.apache.org/process.html
+
* Check copyright checkbox is signed off on.
** If not, then dig in to see if it can be signed off on.
*** If so, sign off with current date.
*** If not, remove source.
Hen
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Is there a list someplace of the steps to take to shutdown a project? On
> the website, I see entry guides, podling guides, graduation guides, etc....
> but not a shutdown/termination guide.
>
>
> --
> Daniel Kulp
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://dankulp.com/blog
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
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