Re: JDK 1.* and HTTP/1.1 [Chuck McManis ] (fwd)

[Brian Behlendorf <br...@hyperreal.com>]

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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:03:55 -0700
From: Chuck McManis <cm...@freegate.net>
To: Rodent of Unusual Size <co...@decus.org>
CC: David.Brownell@eng.sun.com, David.A.Brown@eng.sun.com,
        Andrew.Shikiar@eng.sun.com, david.burnette@javaworld.com,
        dbowen@doppio.eng.sun.com, cmcmanis@netcom.com, New-HTTPd@apache.org
Subject: Re: JDK 1.* and HTTP/1.1

Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
>      4. I don't see how David Brown's assertion that there will be no
>         problem when Apache 1.2 hits the streets can be true.  Existing
>         applications will need to be rebuilt using the updated class
>         libraries first.  N'est-ce pas?

My take on Dave's response is that he may believe that the 1.1 JDK
is in much more widespread use than it actually is. 

Two statements are demonstrably true:
	1) All applications based on the 1.0.2 JDK will break.

	2) Any applet that utilizes URLConnection that is accessed
	   by a Netscape 3.x or Internet Explorer 3.x browser will
	   most likely break.

Given the incompatibilities between 1.1 and 1.0.2 and the lack of
'production' browser support, a whopping majority of the Java classes
out there find themselves landing on 1.0.2 based Virtual Machines.

--Chuck
(cmcmanis@netcom.com)

Re: JDK 1.* and HTTP/1.1 [Chuck McManis ] (fwd)

[Alexei Kosut <ak...@nueva.pvt.k12.ca.us>]

On Thu, 15 May 1997, Brian Behlendorf forwarded something Chuck McManis wrote:

> My take on Dave's response is that he may believe that the 1.1 JDK
> is in much more widespread use than it actually is. 
> 
> Two statements are demonstrably true:

Um... No. They are both demonstrably false.

> 	1) All applications based on the 1.0.2 JDK will break.

No. As someone (I forget whom) pointed out, the Java classes themselves
do not have the HTTP/1.1 problem, it's the peer classes that are used
by the particular application. Not all of them have this problem.

> 	2) Any applet that utilizes URLConnection that is accessed
> 	   by a Netscape 3.x or Internet Explorer 3.x browser will
> 	   most likely break.

Again, wrong, given that Netscape 3.x implements URLConnection using
the standard Netscape HTTP routines, which work just fine with
HTTP/1.1.

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