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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> on 2013/01/30 00:42:25 UTC
Flash Platform Whitepaper
Hi Folks,
Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus
its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
(ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
Go Apache Flex!
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Does this mean that an app that I compile with the default settings for 4.5.1A will not benefit from this stacktrace availability, even if the user has 11.5 installed?
From my testing that's sadly the case. You could detect the version of the flash player and then load a swf compiled with 11.5 if they are using 11.5. (Assuming your app is in the browser).
Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
>Just about every new feature is gated by SWF version
So true, just did a test and wasn't able to make it work without compiling
with 11.5 :P
-Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Alex Harui
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:49 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Just about every new feature is gated by SWF version. Some legacy code may
have been relying on the lack of debug information in the
Error.getStackTrace() in a release build. In fact, I haven't tried it, but
it could break my hacks described here:
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui/2007/10/debugging_tricks.html
On 1/30/13 8:40 AM, "Marcus Fritze" <ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> @Frédéric
>
> Yes, you are right, it's not an API "function". It's more an "internal
> functionality" of the Flash Player. But I am not sure if you are right. I
> have
> tested this for my own and the debug with release player only worked when
> I
> compiled against 11.5.
>
> Maybe someone else can confirm.
>
> Marcus
>
> Am 30.01.2013 um 17:28 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>:
>
>> AFAIK, this feature is only about the stack trace of errors in the
>> "release
>> Flash Player >= 11.5", nothing is relative to any API to use, so, the SDK
>> is
>> not implied and you app can be compile with any version, having 11.5
>> release
>> player installed is sufficient.
>>
>> Tell me if I missed something.
>>
>> -Fred
>>
>> -----Message d'origine----- From: Marcus Fritze
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:16 PM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>
>> AFAIK, the 4.5.1A targets Flash Player 10.2
>>
>> So the minimum required FP version of your customers is 10.2 and you can
>> use
>> only the API of 10.2 (no debug trace for release versions). If the user
>> has
>> 11.5 installed it will only use 10.2 API because you compiled your app in
>> this version.
>>
>>
>> Am 30.01.2013 um 17:08 schrieb David Coleman
>> <da...@hotmail.com>:
>>
>>> Does this mean that an app that I compile with the default settings for
>>> 4.5.1A will not benefit from this stacktrace availability, even if the
>>> user
>>> has 11.5 installed? Or is having 11.5 release player installed,
>>> sufficient?
>>> We have an extensive error reporting system in our app that would
>>> benefit
>>> greatly from this... however forcing users to upgrade their flash player
>>> is
>>> not an option as our user base contains many people with legacy
>>> browsers.
>>>
>>>> From: marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>>> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:55 +0100
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Download the current SDK.
>>>>
>>>> Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
>>>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled
>>>> SWF.
>>>> -->
>>>> <target-player>11.1</target-player>
>>>>
>>>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>>>> <swf-version>14</swf-version>
>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled
>>>> SWF.
>>>> -->
>>>> <target-player>11.5</target-player>
>>>>
>>>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>>>> <swf-version>18</swf-version>
>>>>
>>>> You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
>>>> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playerglobal11
>>>> _5.swc
>>>>
>>>> And copy it to:
>>>> /frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
>>>>
>>>> (Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
>>>>
>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
>>>>> Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
>>>>> else ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
>>>>> Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>>>>
>>>>> HI,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
>>>>> swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Just about every new feature is gated by SWF version. Some legacy code may
have been relying on the lack of debug information in the
Error.getStackTrace() in a release build. In fact, I haven't tried it, but
it could break my hacks described here:
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui/2007/10/debugging_tricks.html
On 1/30/13 8:40 AM, "Marcus Fritze" <ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> @Frédéric
>
> Yes, you are right, it's not an API "function". It's more an "internal
> functionality" of the Flash Player. But I am not sure if you are right. I have
> tested this for my own and the debug with release player only worked when I
> compiled against 11.5.
>
> Maybe someone else can confirm.
>
> Marcus
>
> Am 30.01.2013 um 17:28 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>:
>
>> AFAIK, this feature is only about the stack trace of errors in the "release
>> Flash Player >= 11.5", nothing is relative to any API to use, so, the SDK is
>> not implied and you app can be compile with any version, having 11.5 release
>> player installed is sufficient.
>>
>> Tell me if I missed something.
>>
>> -Fred
>>
>> -----Message d'origine----- From: Marcus Fritze
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:16 PM
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>
>> AFAIK, the 4.5.1A targets Flash Player 10.2
>>
>> So the minimum required FP version of your customers is 10.2 and you can use
>> only the API of 10.2 (no debug trace for release versions). If the user has
>> 11.5 installed it will only use 10.2 API because you compiled your app in
>> this version.
>>
>>
>> Am 30.01.2013 um 17:08 schrieb David Coleman <da...@hotmail.com>:
>>
>>> Does this mean that an app that I compile with the default settings for
>>> 4.5.1A will not benefit from this stacktrace availability, even if the user
>>> has 11.5 installed? Or is having 11.5 release player installed, sufficient?
>>> We have an extensive error reporting system in our app that would benefit
>>> greatly from this... however forcing users to upgrade their flash player is
>>> not an option as our user base contains many people with legacy browsers.
>>>
>>>> From: marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>>> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:55 +0100
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Download the current SDK.
>>>>
>>>> Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
>>>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF.
>>>> -->
>>>> <target-player>11.1</target-player>
>>>>
>>>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>>>> <swf-version>14</swf-version>
>>>>
>>>> To:
>>>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF.
>>>> -->
>>>> <target-player>11.5</target-player>
>>>>
>>>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>>>> <swf-version>18</swf-version>
>>>>
>>>> You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
>>>> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playerglobal11
>>>> _5.swc
>>>>
>>>> And copy it to:
>>>> /frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
>>>>
>>>> (Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
>>>>
>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
>>>>> Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
>>>>> else ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
>>>>> Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>>>>
>>>>> HI,
>>>>>
>>>>> Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
>>>>> swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.
@Frédéric
Yes, you are right, it's not an API "function". It's more an "internal functionality" of the Flash Player. But I am not sure if you are right. I have tested this for my own and the debug with release player only worked when I compiled against 11.5.
Maybe someone else can confirm.
Marcus
Am 30.01.2013 um 17:28 schrieb Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>:
> AFAIK, this feature is only about the stack trace of errors in the "release Flash Player >= 11.5", nothing is relative to any API to use, so, the SDK is not implied and you app can be compile with any version, having 11.5 release player installed is sufficient.
>
> Tell me if I missed something.
>
> -Fred
>
> -----Message d'origine----- From: Marcus Fritze
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:16 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>
> AFAIK, the 4.5.1A targets Flash Player 10.2
>
> So the minimum required FP version of your customers is 10.2 and you can use only the API of 10.2 (no debug trace for release versions). If the user has 11.5 installed it will only use 10.2 API because you compiled your app in this version.
>
>
> Am 30.01.2013 um 17:08 schrieb David Coleman <da...@hotmail.com>:
>
>> Does this mean that an app that I compile with the default settings for 4.5.1A will not benefit from this stacktrace availability, even if the user has 11.5 installed? Or is having 11.5 release player installed, sufficient? We have an extensive error reporting system in our app that would benefit greatly from this... however forcing users to upgrade their flash player is not an option as our user base contains many people with legacy browsers.
>>
>>> From: marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:55 +0100
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>
>>> Download the current SDK.
>>>
>>> Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
>>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
>>> <target-player>11.1</target-player>
>>>
>>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>>> <swf-version>14</swf-version>
>>>
>>> To:
>>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
>>> <target-player>11.5</target-player>
>>>
>>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>>> <swf-version>18</swf-version>
>>>
>>> You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
>>> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playerglobal11_5.swc
>>>
>>> And copy it to:
>>> /frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
>>>
>>> (Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
>>>
>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>
>>> Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
>>>
>>>> Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
>>>> Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
>>>> else ?
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
>>>> Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>>>
>>>> HI,
>>>>
>>>> Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
>>>> swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Justin
>>>
>>
>
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
AFAIK, this feature is only about the stack trace of errors in the "release
Flash Player >= 11.5", nothing is relative to any API to use, so, the SDK is
not implied and you app can be compile with any version, having 11.5 release
player installed is sufficient.
Tell me if I missed something.
-Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Marcus Fritze
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:16 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
AFAIK, the 4.5.1A targets Flash Player 10.2
So the minimum required FP version of your customers is 10.2 and you can use
only the API of 10.2 (no debug trace for release versions). If the user has
11.5 installed it will only use 10.2 API because you compiled your app in
this version.
Am 30.01.2013 um 17:08 schrieb David Coleman
<da...@hotmail.com>:
> Does this mean that an app that I compile with the default settings for
> 4.5.1A will not benefit from this stacktrace availability, even if the
> user has 11.5 installed? Or is having 11.5 release player installed,
> sufficient? We have an extensive error reporting system in our app that
> would benefit greatly from this... however forcing users to upgrade their
> flash player is not an option as our user base contains many people with
> legacy browsers.
>
>> From: marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:55 +0100
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>
>> Download the current SDK.
>>
>> Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled
>> SWF. -->
>> <target-player>11.1</target-player>
>>
>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>> <swf-version>14</swf-version>
>>
>> To:
>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled
>> SWF. -->
>> <target-player>11.5</target-player>
>>
>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>> <swf-version>18</swf-version>
>>
>> You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
>> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playerglobal11_5.swc
>>
>> And copy it to:
>> /frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
>>
>> (Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
>>
>> Marcus Fritze
>>
>> Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
>>
>>> Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
>>> Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
>>> else ?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
>>> Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
>>> swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>
>
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.
AFAIK, the 4.5.1A targets Flash Player 10.2
So the minimum required FP version of your customers is 10.2 and you can use only the API of 10.2 (no debug trace for release versions). If the user has 11.5 installed it will only use 10.2 API because you compiled your app in this version.
Am 30.01.2013 um 17:08 schrieb David Coleman <da...@hotmail.com>:
> Does this mean that an app that I compile with the default settings for 4.5.1A will not benefit from this stacktrace availability, even if the user has 11.5 installed? Or is having 11.5 release player installed, sufficient? We have an extensive error reporting system in our app that would benefit greatly from this... however forcing users to upgrade their flash player is not an option as our user base contains many people with legacy browsers.
>
>> From: marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:55 +0100
>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>
>> Download the current SDK.
>>
>> Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
>> <target-player>11.1</target-player>
>>
>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>> <swf-version>14</swf-version>
>>
>> To:
>> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
>> <target-player>11.5</target-player>
>>
>> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
>> <swf-version>18</swf-version>
>>
>> You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
>> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playerglobal11_5.swc
>>
>> And copy it to:
>> /frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
>>
>> (Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
>>
>> Marcus Fritze
>>
>> Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
>>
>>> Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
>>> Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
>>> else ?
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
>>> Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
>>> swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>
>
RE: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by David Coleman <da...@hotmail.com>.
Does this mean that an app that I compile with the default settings for 4.5.1A will not benefit from this stacktrace availability, even if the user has 11.5 installed? Or is having 11.5 release player installed, sufficient? We have an extensive error reporting system in our app that would benefit greatly from this... however forcing users to upgrade their flash player is not an option as our user base contains many people with legacy browsers.
> From: marcus.fritze@googlemail.com
> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:02:55 +0100
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>
> Download the current SDK.
>
> Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
> <target-player>11.1</target-player>
>
> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
> <swf-version>14</swf-version>
>
> To:
> <!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
> <target-player>11.5</target-player>
>
> <!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
> <swf-version>18</swf-version>
>
> You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playerglobal11_5.swc
>
> And copy it to:
> /frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
>
> (Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
>
> Marcus Fritze
>
> Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
>
> > Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
> > Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
> > else ?
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
> > Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
> > To: dev@flex.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
> >
> > HI,
> >
> > Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
> > swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
>
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Is it not working for FB4?? I have upgrade the SDK.
If you using the 4.5+ SDK it may work in FB4. You may have some luck using the -targetplayer compiler option rather than the -swf-version compiler option in FB4 using an SDK earlier than 4.5. I've not tried either so if someone does feedback here would be good.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by manish sharma <mi...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Is it not working for FB4?? I have upgrade the SDK.
Regards,
Manish
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > Is there anything I'm missing ?
> You're actually compiling with the compiler that come with 4.1 SDK and it
> doesn't support that option. Try -target-player option instead that may
> work (I've not tried it), otherwise you'll need to to use 4.5.
>
> Justin
>
>
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Is there anything I'm missing ?
You're actually compiling with the compiler that come with 4.1 SDK and it doesn't support that option. Try -target-player option instead that may work (I've not tried it), otherwise you'll need to to use 4.5.
Justin
RE: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>.
I've upgraded to 4.7
Installed the 4.1 SDK (this is what I need to target for now - I had
issues with the 4.5 and 4.6 SDK's that I haven't had time to sort out)
I've installed the playerglobal.swc, modified flex-config.xml
But I still get
Description Resource Path Location Type
unknown configuration variable 'swf-version' Lite line 19
Flex Problem
even though I'm compiling with FB4.7
Is there anything I'm missing ?
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Cooper, Andrew
Sent: 30 January 2013 23:04
To: 'dev@flex.apache.org'
Subject: RE: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Thanks for all the help...
Just tried this in FB4.0 and it doesn't compile
Description Resource Path Location Type
unknown configuration variable 'swf-version' Lite line 19
Flex Problem
Looks like I'll be upgrading to FB4.7 soon
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
Sent: 30 January 2013 21:07
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Hi,
> Do you need Flash Builder 4.7 for this or will Flash Builder 4.0 be
sufficient
Not tried but see no reason why it shouldn't work on 4.0 if you have the
playerglobal.swc and flash player version and swf version numbers set
correctly in the flex config file.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Just tried this in FB4.0 and it doesn't compile
Look like the "-swf-version" option was added in FB 4.5 (or rather to the compiler for the Flex SDK that come with FB 4.5). You might be able to get it to work with the "-target-player" option?
Justin
RE: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>.
Thanks for all the help...
Just tried this in FB4.0 and it doesn't compile
Description Resource Path Location Type
unknown configuration variable 'swf-version' Lite line 19
Flex Problem
Looks like I'll be upgrading to FB4.7 soon
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
Sent: 30 January 2013 21:07
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Hi,
> Do you need Flash Builder 4.7 for this or will Flash Builder 4.0 be
sufficient
Not tried but see no reason why it shouldn't work on 4.0 if you have the
playerglobal.swc and flash player version and swf version numbers set
correctly in the flex config file.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> Do you need Flash Builder 4.7 for this or will Flash Builder 4.0 be sufficient
Not tried but see no reason why it shouldn't work on 4.0 if you have the playerglobal.swc and flash player version and swf version numbers set correctly in the flex config file.
Thanks,
Justin
RE: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>.
One final question on this
Do you need Flash Builder 4.7 for this or will Flash Builder 4.0 be
sufficient
Thanks for all your help with this
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Fritze [mailto:marcus.fritze@googlemail.com]
Sent: 30 January 2013 16:03
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Download the current SDK.
Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
<!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled
SWF. -->
<target-player>11.1</target-player>
<!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
<swf-version>14</swf-version>
To:
<!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled
SWF. -->
<target-player>11.5</target-player>
<!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
<swf-version>18</swf-version>
You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playergloba
l11_5.swc
And copy it to:
/frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
(Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
Marcus Fritze
Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
> Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7) Does this automatically set
> the swf version to 18 or is that something else ?
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
> Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>
> HI,
>
> Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
> swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Also in the SVN develop branch of the ide directory there's several scripts that can download the swcs and make the changes for you.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.
Download the current SDK.
Just edit the framework/flex-config.xml file and change this lines:
<!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
<target-player>11.1</target-player>
<!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
<swf-version>14</swf-version>
To:
<!-- Specifies the minimum player version that will run the compiled SWF. -->
<target-player>11.5</target-player>
<!-- Specifies the version of the compiled SWF -->
<swf-version>18</swf-version>
You also need to download the the 11.5 playerglobal.swc from here:
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/updaters/11/playerglobal11_5.swc
And copy it to:
/frameworks/libs/player/11.5/playerglobal.swc
(Thanks again Justin McLean for this explanation.)
Marcus Fritze
Am 30.01.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
> Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
> Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
> else ?
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
> Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
>
> HI,
>
> Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
> swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
RE: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>.
Can you target 11.5 in Flash Builder(4.7)
Does this automatically set the swf version to 18 or is that something
else ?
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Mclean [mailto:justin@classsoftware.com]
Sent: 30 January 2013 00:38
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
HI,
Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and
swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
HI,
Just be aware that you need to compile your application with 11.5 (and swf version set to 18) for this to take effect.
Thanks,
Justin
Re: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Marcus Fritze <ma...@googlemail.com>.
Indeed this is a very nice feature. I was waiting a long time for the feature.
I use a global error handler (UncaughtErrorEvent.UNCAUGHT_ERROR) in my application and send all debug logs to my e-mail. I think it's the best way to find errors in your application.
Am 30.01.2013 um 01:25 schrieb "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>:
> I've just seen that this is now available
>
> It might be a godsend to track down those pesky 1009, 1010 errors
>
> I just have to get my users to update their flash player ...
RE: Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by Ian Appleby <Ia...@bcs.org>.
> I just have to get my users to update their flash player ...
Yes well, that's the trick isn't it. I'm still trying to get some of mine
onto 11.x
-Ian
Flash Player 11.5 - Debug trace in release player
Posted by "Cooper, Andrew" <AC...@cimtek.com>.
I've just seen that this is now available
It might be a godsend to track down those pesky 1009, 1010 errors
I just have to get my users to update their flash player ...
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/29/13 4:33 PM, "Igor Costa" <ig...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there Alex
>
> In some points Alex we will be affected, since if we still want to be relay
> only on flash player. We have to move on for Flex output for N platforms
> and stop depending only on one vendor.
>
> Is that what you mention or no, I'm wrong?
IMO, the only thing that affects us is the fact that we don't have to worry
about a new VM and language. None of the other changes published today
affects the Apache Flex Project's exploration into Flex output for other
platforms. There's definitely lots of exploring going on.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Igor Costa <ig...@gmail.com>.
Hi there Alex
In some points Alex we will be affected, since if we still want to be relay
only on flash player. We have to move on for Flex output for N platforms
and stop depending only on one vendor.
Is that what you mention or no, I'm wrong?
----------------------------
Igor Costa
www.igorcosta.com
www.igorcosta.org
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Notice the license for "premium" features has been dropped as well.
>
> Justin
>
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Notice the license for "premium" features has been dropped as well.
Justin
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Gordon Smith <go...@adobe.com>.
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
- Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 3:42 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Hi Folks,
Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language (ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
Go Apache Flex!
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Kevin Newman <Ca...@unFocus.com>.
On 1/29/2013 8:14 PM, Tianzhen Lin wrote:
> I hope Adobe, with its new focus on gaming, would not repeat
> its misstep and make some waves into console market.
The right play in my opinion would be to do exactly that - focus on
gaming - then expand out to other types of apps like they did when Flash
moved from animation, to video, to RIAs. They have a strong
multi-platform app-store middleware product. But if you read closely,
Adobe's narrative was never about a real focus on gaming, and was always
more about leveraging their installed base, and desktop/laptop browser
ubiquity. That failed when they couldn't sell premium features, and so
they've cancelled the plans they had to advance Flash and AIR further,
and have instead entered Flash into its end of life.
It's really a shame they'll put stage3d and AGAL to sleep with Flash.
Any hope they'll mix those APIs with a new language, and create a
preplacement middleware product (I'm voting for GoLang as the core
language!)? A new brand couldn't hurt at this point.
Kevin N.
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Tianzhen Lin <ta...@usa.net>.
Windows 8 is a dumb product for anyone to waste their time on. :)
On the other hand, I am hoping Adobe would have AIR for Xbox and Play
Station. Adobe has missed the whole mobile front with its incompetent
Flashlite and Flash-6-es-que player for Pocket PC. Had Adobe put more
resources on mobile years earlier, its foothold in mobile would have been
much stronger. I hope Adobe, with its new focus on gaming, would not repeat
its misstep and make some waves into console market.
Tangent
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Fuqua [mailto:mark@availdata.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 7:40 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
In reading over the latest version, it seems like Adobe is saying no Air for
Windows 8 tablets/phones...is that a correct reading?
Seems like a dumb move for both Microsoft and Adobe.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:42 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Hi Folks,
Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus
its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
(ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
Go Apache Flex!
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
Yeah... They tried that once already. They submitted to have a large
portion of AS3 become the next ECMAScript -- and after a bit of a tizzy,
they were rejected.
-Nick
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Read to me like they are working on making AS3 the new Javascript. Just
> saying. :)
>
> brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
> and the number 47
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Kevin Newman <Ca...@unfocus.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I read the whole thing as Flash entering sunset mode. Basically, Adobe
> > doesn't want to make their AIR package competitive, so they are throwing
> in
> > the towel, while allowing Flash Player in the browser to coast to it's
> > inevitable demise. That's my read anyway.
> >
> > Kevin N.
> >
> >
>
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
Read to me like they are working on making AS3 the new Javascript. Just
saying. :)
brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
and the number 47
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Kevin Newman <Ca...@unfocus.com> wrote:
> I read the whole thing as Flash entering sunset mode. Basically, Adobe
> doesn't want to make their AIR package competitive, so they are throwing in
> the towel, while allowing Flash Player in the browser to coast to it's
> inevitable demise. That's my read anyway.
>
> Kevin N.
>
>
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Kevin Newman <Ca...@unFocus.com>.
I read the whole thing as Flash entering sunset mode. Basically, Adobe
doesn't want to make their AIR package competitive, so they are throwing
in the towel, while allowing Flash Player in the browser to coast to
it's inevitable demise. That's my read anyway.
Kevin N.
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Tomislav Pokrajcic <to...@svemir.net>.
That part of text is a bit fuzzy, but it doesn't sound positive at all
about AIR on Win8 mobile.
Also, no mention of Blackberry OS.
Tomislav
On 30.1.2013. 1:39, Mark Fuqua wrote:
> In reading over the latest version, it seems like Adobe is saying no Air for
> Windows 8 tablets/phones...is that a correct reading?
>
> Seems like a dumb move for both Microsoft and Adobe.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:42 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Flash Platform Whitepaper
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
> it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus
> its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
> opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
> (ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
> to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
>
> Go Apache Flex!
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>
>
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Lee Burrows <su...@leeburrows.com>.
Thats the way i'm reading it - dumb but predictable
On 30/01/2013 00:39, Mark Fuqua wrote:
> In reading over the latest version, it seems like Adobe is saying no Air for
> Windows 8 tablets/phones...is that a correct reading?
>
> Seems like a dumb move for both Microsoft and Adobe.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:42 PM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Flash Platform Whitepaper
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
> it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus
> its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
> opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
> (ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
> to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
>
> Go Apache Flex!
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
>
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Mark Fuqua <ma...@availdata.com>.
In reading over the latest version, it seems like Adobe is saying no Air for
Windows 8 tablets/phones...is that a correct reading?
Seems like a dumb move for both Microsoft and Adobe.
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:42 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Hi Folks,
Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus
its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
(ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
Go Apache Flex!
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
The flip-side is that it might affect Win 8 (or rather Metro) success…
That news is pretty disappointing. Of course this makes the HTML work all the more relevant… ;)
Harbs
On Jan 31, 2013, at 4:23 PM, sébastien Paturel wrote:
> Good thing, we did not start to rewrite flex in AS4 :)
> At least it proves that Adobe can change its strategic moves very quickly and 180° is always possible, even if you can't count on it of course.
>
> Does this white paper mean that theres no plan to put Air on windows 8, even in captive runtime like iOs?
> it would be a very bad news for Flex on short term (as a multi target SDK) if windows 8 has success and flex don't run on it.
>
> Le 30/01/2013 00:42, Alex Harui a écrit :
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
>> it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus
>> its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
>> opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
>> (ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
>> to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
>>
>> Go Apache Flex!
>
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Avi Kessner <ak...@gmail.com>.
Microsoft was sued and lost a court case regarding 'metro uh so they had to
change it to 'modern ui' as far as I remember
On Jan 31, 2013 4:59 PM, "Kessler CTR Mark J" <ma...@usmc.mil>
wrote:
> Actually I think they said they will have AIR on Win8, but they are not
> making anything special for the Metro interface or what Adobe seems to be
> calling the "Modern UI". However if you're not on the compatibility list
> it will show up for the desktop, but not the "Modern UI".
>
> "Flash Player release and debug players are available and supported for
> Windows 8 Desktop and Modern UI experiences on both x86/64 and ARM
> platforms."
>
> " Flash content not on the compatibility view list will not be displayed
> within Modern UI style Internet Explorer on Windows 8"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [mailto:nicholas@spoon.as]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:34 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
>
> According to the whitepaper, there is no plans to support AIR on Windows 8
> RT (ARM based processors, or tablets). Windows 8 (Intel based processors,
> or desktops), are still supported.
>
> I'm not surprised by this move. I see it more as a wait-and-see than
> anything else. Windows 8 RT has a *very* low take rate right now. If they
> are not supporting Linux, then not supporting Windows 8 RT is a no-brainer,
> at this time. I'm sure if Windows 8 RT becomes more popular they will
> re-evaluate which platforms they want to support.
>
> -Nick
>
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Mike Chambers <mc...@adobe.com>.
Feel free to email me directly : mesh@adobe.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Gatica [mailto:alex.gatica.91@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 8:58 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
i think i dindnt make myself clear, i was wondering if we could talk in skype or something cause i really need help and im running out of options, i would appreciate th help
2013/1/31 Mike Chambers <mc...@adobe.com>
> AIR is supported on Windows 8 desktop on x86 machines.
>
> mike chambers
>
> mesh@adobe.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kessler CTR Mark J [mailto:mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:59 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
>
> Actually I think they said they will have AIR on Win8, but they are
> not making anything special for the Metro interface or what Adobe
> seems to be calling the "Modern UI". However if you're not on the
> compatibility list it will show up for the desktop, but not the "Modern UI".
>
> "Flash Player release and debug players are available and supported
> for Windows 8 Desktop and Modern UI experiences on both x86/64 and ARM
> platforms."
>
> " Flash content not on the compatibility view list will not be
> displayed within Modern UI style Internet Explorer on Windows 8"
>
>
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Alex Gatica <al...@gmail.com>.
i think i dindnt make myself clear, i was wondering if we could talk in
skype or something cause i really need help and im running out of options,
i would appreciate th help
2013/1/31 Mike Chambers <mc...@adobe.com>
> AIR is supported on Windows 8 desktop on x86 machines.
>
> mike chambers
>
> mesh@adobe.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kessler CTR Mark J [mailto:mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil]
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:59 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
>
> Actually I think they said they will have AIR on Win8, but they are not
> making anything special for the Metro interface or what Adobe seems to be
> calling the "Modern UI". However if you're not on the compatibility list
> it will show up for the desktop, but not the "Modern UI".
>
> "Flash Player release and debug players are available and supported for
> Windows 8 Desktop and Modern UI experiences on both x86/64 and ARM
> platforms."
>
> " Flash content not on the compatibility view list will not be displayed
> within Modern UI style Internet Explorer on Windows 8"
>
>
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Mike Chambers <mc...@adobe.com>.
AIR is supported on Windows 8 desktop on x86 machines.
mike chambers
mesh@adobe.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kessler CTR Mark J [mailto:mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:59 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Actually I think they said they will have AIR on Win8, but they are not making anything special for the Metro interface or what Adobe seems to be calling the "Modern UI". However if you're not on the compatibility list it will show up for the desktop, but not the "Modern UI".
"Flash Player release and debug players are available and supported for Windows 8 Desktop and Modern UI experiences on both x86/64 and ARM platforms."
" Flash content not on the compatibility view list will not be displayed within Modern UI style Internet Explorer on Windows 8"
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
Oops missed my reference... Here it is support for Windows 8 but not the Modern UI
" Adobe AIR is available and supported for Windows 8 Desktop on x86-based computers. Adobe currently has no plans to support Adobe AIR for Windows 8 Modern UI applications"
-----Original Message-----
From: Kessler CTR Mark J [mailto:mark.kessler.ctr@usmc.mil]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:59 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Actually I think they said they will have AIR on Win8, but they are not making anything special for the Metro interface or what Adobe seems to be calling the "Modern UI". However if you're not on the compatibility list it will show up for the desktop, but not the "Modern UI".
"Flash Player release and debug players are available and supported for Windows 8 Desktop and Modern UI experiences on both x86/64 and ARM platforms."
" Flash content not on the compatibility view list will not be displayed within Modern UI style Internet Explorer on Windows 8"
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [mailto:nicholas@spoon.as]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:34 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
According to the whitepaper, there is no plans to support AIR on Windows 8
RT (ARM based processors, or tablets). Windows 8 (Intel based processors,
or desktops), are still supported.
I'm not surprised by this move. I see it more as a wait-and-see than
anything else. Windows 8 RT has a *very* low take rate right now. If they
are not supporting Linux, then not supporting Windows 8 RT is a no-brainer,
at this time. I'm sure if Windows 8 RT becomes more popular they will
re-evaluate which platforms they want to support.
-Nick
RE: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Kessler CTR Mark J <ma...@usmc.mil>.
Actually I think they said they will have AIR on Win8, but they are not making anything special for the Metro interface or what Adobe seems to be calling the "Modern UI". However if you're not on the compatibility list it will show up for the desktop, but not the "Modern UI".
"Flash Player release and debug players are available and supported for Windows 8 Desktop and Modern UI experiences on both x86/64 and ARM platforms."
" Flash content not on the compatibility view list will not be displayed within Modern UI style Internet Explorer on Windows 8"
-----Original Message-----
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [mailto:nicholas@spoon.as]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 9:34 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
According to the whitepaper, there is no plans to support AIR on Windows 8
RT (ARM based processors, or tablets). Windows 8 (Intel based processors,
or desktops), are still supported.
I'm not surprised by this move. I see it more as a wait-and-see than
anything else. Windows 8 RT has a *very* low take rate right now. If they
are not supporting Linux, then not supporting Windows 8 RT is a no-brainer,
at this time. I'm sure if Windows 8 RT becomes more popular they will
re-evaluate which platforms they want to support.
-Nick
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
According to the whitepaper, there is no plans to support AIR on Windows 8
RT (ARM based processors, or tablets). Windows 8 (Intel based processors,
or desktops), are still supported.
I'm not surprised by this move. I see it more as a wait-and-see than
anything else. Windows 8 RT has a *very* low take rate right now. If they
are not supporting Linux, then not supporting Windows 8 RT is a no-brainer,
at this time. I'm sure if Windows 8 RT becomes more popular they will
re-evaluate which platforms they want to support.
-Nick
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, sébastien Paturel
<se...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Good thing, we did not start to rewrite flex in AS4 :)
> At least it proves that Adobe can change its strategic moves very quickly
> and 180° is always possible, even if you can't count on it of course.
>
> Does this white paper mean that theres no plan to put Air on windows 8,
> even in captive runtime like iOs?
> it would be a very bad news for Flex on short term (as a multi target SDK)
> if windows 8 has success and flex don't run on it.
>
> Le 30/01/2013 00:42, Alex Harui a écrit :
>
> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
>> it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to
>> focus
>> its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
>> opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
>> (ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
>> to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
>>
>> Go Apache Flex!
>>
>
>
Re: Flash Platform Whitepaper
Posted by sébastien Paturel <se...@gmail.com>.
Good thing, we did not start to rewrite flex in AS4 :)
At least it proves that Adobe can change its strategic moves very
quickly and 180° is always possible, even if you can't count on it of
course.
Does this white paper mean that theres no plan to put Air on windows 8,
even in captive runtime like iOs?
it would be a very bad news for Flex on short term (as a multi target
SDK) if windows 8 has success and flex don't run on it.
Le 30/01/2013 00:42, Alex Harui a écrit :
> Hi Folks,
>
> Adobe published an update to the Flash Platform Whitepaper today. Most of
> it doesn¹t directly affect us, but one item does: Adobe has decided to focus
> its future runtime development on top of the existing architecture, as
> opposed to a completely new architecture (Flash ³Next²) and language
> (ActionScript ³Next²). So Apache Flex doesn¹t have to worry about porting
> to a new VM/language. That should save us lots of time and distraction.
>
> Go Apache Flex!