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Posted to java-user@lucene.apache.org by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com> on 2010/06/01 03:56:57 UTC
Re: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
I think those doc-oriented DBs tend to be distributed, with replication built-in and such, but yes, in some way the schemaless DB with docs and fields (whether they are pumped in as JSON or XML or Java objects) feels the same. I saw something from Grant about 2 months ago how Lucene is "nosql-ish".
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----- Original Message ----
> From: Shashi Kant <sk...@sloan.mit.edu>
> To: java-user@lucene.apache.org
> Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:20:36 PM
> Subject: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
>
> There seems to be considerable buzz on the internets about document
oriented
> dbs such as MongoDB, CouchDB etc. I am at a loss as to what
are the principal
> differences between Lucene and the "DODBs". I could
very use Lucene as any of
> the above (schema-free, Document oriented)
and perform similar queries,
> *with* the added benefit of text search.
I fail to see what benefits such
> DoDBs bring, or is it old wine in new
> bottles?
Thanks
Shashi
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Re: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
Posted by Shashi Kant <sk...@sloan.mit.edu>.
Great, thanks!
I am curious to learn if anyone has used Lucene/Solr as a
document-oriented db - any experiences to share? Lessons learned?
I am considering a similar application using Solr and want to ensure
we have a handle on potential issues.
Thanks,
Shashi
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Heh, the first link is broken, it should be <a href="
> http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/From-Publisher-ToPlatform-the-Guardian_Stephen-Dunn.pdf">link</a>.
> Check for other conference slides here:
> http://lucene-eurocon.org/agenda.html
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There were nice presentations from The Guardian folks at EuroCon this year
>> about how they made their content available to the public using Solr (and
>> they refer to noSQL model [not only SQL]).
>>
>> http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/From-Publisher-ToPlatform-the-Guardian_Stephen-Dunn.pdf
>>
>> http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/Solr-In-The-Wild-The-Guardians-Open-Platform-Content-API_Graham-Tackley.pdf
>>
>> Regards,
>> Lukas
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Otis Gospodnetic <
>> otis_gospodnetic@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think those doc-oriented DBs tend to be distributed, with replication
>>> built-in and such, but yes, in some way the schemaless DB with docs and
>>> fields (whether they are pumped in as JSON or XML or Java objects) feels the
>>> same. I saw something from Grant about 2 months ago how Lucene is
>>> "nosql-ish".
>>>
>>> Otis
>>> ----
>>> Sematext :: http://sematext.com/ :: Solr - Lucene - Nutch
>>> Lucene ecosystem search :: http://search-lucene.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> > From: Shashi Kant <sk...@sloan.mit.edu>
>>> > To: java-user@lucene.apache.org
>>> > Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:20:36 PM
>>> > Subject: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
>>> >
>>> > There seems to be considerable buzz on the internets about document
>>> oriented
>>> > dbs such as MongoDB, CouchDB etc. I am at a loss as to what
>>> are the principal
>>> > differences between Lucene and the "DODBs". I could
>>> very use Lucene as any of
>>> > the above (schema-free, Document oriented)
>>> and perform similar queries,
>>> > *with* the added benefit of text search.
>>>
>>> I fail to see what benefits such
>>> > DoDBs bring, or is it old wine in new
>>> > bottles?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Shashi
>>>
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Re: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
Posted by Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>.
Heh, the first link is broken, it should be <a href="
http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/From-Publisher-ToPlatform-the-Guardian_Stephen-Dunn.pdf">link</a>.
Check for other conference slides here:
http://lucene-eurocon.org/agenda.html
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There were nice presentations from The Guardian folks at EuroCon this year
> about how they made their content available to the public using Solr (and
> they refer to noSQL model [not only SQL]).
>
> http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/From-Publisher-ToPlatform-the-Guardian_Stephen-Dunn.pdf
>
> http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/Solr-In-The-Wild-The-Guardians-Open-Platform-Content-API_Graham-Tackley.pdf
>
> Regards,
> Lukas
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Otis Gospodnetic <
> otis_gospodnetic@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I think those doc-oriented DBs tend to be distributed, with replication
>> built-in and such, but yes, in some way the schemaless DB with docs and
>> fields (whether they are pumped in as JSON or XML or Java objects) feels the
>> same. I saw something from Grant about 2 months ago how Lucene is
>> "nosql-ish".
>>
>> Otis
>> ----
>> Sematext :: http://sematext.com/ :: Solr - Lucene - Nutch
>> Lucene ecosystem search :: http://search-lucene.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> > From: Shashi Kant <sk...@sloan.mit.edu>
>> > To: java-user@lucene.apache.org
>> > Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:20:36 PM
>> > Subject: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
>> >
>> > There seems to be considerable buzz on the internets about document
>> oriented
>> > dbs such as MongoDB, CouchDB etc. I am at a loss as to what
>> are the principal
>> > differences between Lucene and the "DODBs". I could
>> very use Lucene as any of
>> > the above (schema-free, Document oriented)
>> and perform similar queries,
>> > *with* the added benefit of text search.
>>
>> I fail to see what benefits such
>> > DoDBs bring, or is it old wine in new
>> > bottles?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Shashi
>>
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Re: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
Posted by Lukáš Vlček <lu...@gmail.com>.
There were nice presentations from The Guardian folks at EuroCon this year
about how they made their content available to the public using Solr (and
they refer to noSQL model [not only SQL]).
http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/From-Publisher-ToPlatform-the-Guardian_Stephen-Dunn.pdf
http://lucene-eurocon.org/slides/Solr-In-The-Wild-The-Guardians-Open-Platform-Content-API_Graham-Tackley.pdf
Regards,
Lukas
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Otis Gospodnetic <otis_gospodnetic@yahoo.com
> wrote:
> I think those doc-oriented DBs tend to be distributed, with replication
> built-in and such, but yes, in some way the schemaless DB with docs and
> fields (whether they are pumped in as JSON or XML or Java objects) feels the
> same. I saw something from Grant about 2 months ago how Lucene is
> "nosql-ish".
>
> Otis
> ----
> Sematext :: http://sematext.com/ :: Solr - Lucene - Nutch
> Lucene ecosystem search :: http://search-lucene.com/
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Shashi Kant <sk...@sloan.mit.edu>
> > To: java-user@lucene.apache.org
> > Sent: Mon, May 31, 2010 12:20:36 PM
> > Subject: Is Lucene a "document oriented database"?
> >
> > There seems to be considerable buzz on the internets about document
> oriented
> > dbs such as MongoDB, CouchDB etc. I am at a loss as to what
> are the principal
> > differences between Lucene and the "DODBs". I could
> very use Lucene as any of
> > the above (schema-free, Document oriented)
> and perform similar queries,
> > *with* the added benefit of text search.
>
> I fail to see what benefits such
> > DoDBs bring, or is it old wine in new
> > bottles?
>
> Thanks
> Shashi
>
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