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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
Now that Oracle bought Sun I wonder if JDev and Netbeans will cross paths.
A great free, cross-platform SQL tool is SQuirreL (
http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/).
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Swank <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step
> operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run
> analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth
> hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this has
> gotten off topic.
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James
> Carman<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> > As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either use the
> > console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always seemed a
> bit
> > limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited knowledge of
> all
> > the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :)
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank <sc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus".
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James
> >> Carman<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> >> > +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's
> a
> >> very
> >> > nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <va...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use
> it
> >> for
> >> >> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can
> match
> >> >> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project
> >> >> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly
> >> >> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major
> >> reason.
> >> >>
> >> >> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer
> (the
> >> >> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it,
> >> >> though
> >> >> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy
> and
> >> >> sssslllllow.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti <
> dtoffe@yahoo.com.ar
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I always thought God used only in LISP :)
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Nicolas Melendez wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > NM
> >> >> > > > Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No. Sadly, He didn't:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://xkcd.com/224/
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Daniel
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Vasu Srinivasan
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
Posted by Peter Ertl <pe...@gmx.net>.
looks nice, but no support for postgresql :-(
Am 02.07.2009 um 21:54 schrieb John Armstrong:
> Since we are plugging our favorite DB tools I swear by Database
> Workbench Pro (http://www.upscene.com/). The author is extremely
> responsive (he'll give you a custom build, usually in 48 hours, when
> you find a bug), it supports a nice variety of databases and has some
> killer tools like cross-database data migration, schema migration,
> schema differentiation, ERD generation etc etc.
>
> Check it out, well worth the money but Windows only so I find myself
> in VMWare with it these days.
>
> John-
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Richard Allen<richard.l.allen@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>> Now that Oracle bought Sun I wonder if JDev and Netbeans will cross
>> paths.
>>
>> A great free, cross-platform SQL tool is SQuirreL (
>> http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/).
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Swank
>> <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step
>>> operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run
>>> analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth
>>> hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this
>>> has
>>> gotten off topic.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James
>>> Carman<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>> As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either
>>>> use the
>>>> console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always
>>>> seemed a
>>> bit
>>>> limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited
>>>> knowledge of
>>> all
>>>> the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :)
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank
>>>> <sc...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus".
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James
>>>>> Carman<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>> +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not
>>>>>> DBAs), it's
>>> a
>>>>> very
>>>>>> nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <vasya10@gmail.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure.
>>>>>>> We use
>>> it
>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which
>>>>>>> can
>>> match
>>>>>>> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty
>>>>>>> much it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is
>>>>>>> indirectly
>>>>>>> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another
>>>>>>> major
>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql
>>>>>>> developer
>>> (the
>>>>>>> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy
>>>>>>> with it,
>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was
>>>>>>> buggy
>>> and
>>>>>>> sssslllllow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti <
>>> dtoffe@yahoo.com.ar
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I always thought God used only in LISP :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nicolas Melendez wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> NM
>>>>>>>>>> Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. Sadly, He didn't:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/224/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Vasu Srinivasan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: JDeveloper - Can I get a show of hands?
Posted by John Armstrong <si...@siberian.org>.
Since we are plugging our favorite DB tools I swear by Database
Workbench Pro (http://www.upscene.com/). The author is extremely
responsive (he'll give you a custom build, usually in 48 hours, when
you find a bug), it supports a nice variety of databases and has some
killer tools like cross-database data migration, schema migration,
schema differentiation, ERD generation etc etc.
Check it out, well worth the money but Windows only so I find myself
in VMWare with it these days.
John-
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Richard Allen<ri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now that Oracle bought Sun I wonder if JDev and Netbeans will cross paths.
>
> A great free, cross-platform SQL tool is SQuirreL (
> http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/).
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Scott Swank <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm at best 50% DBA, by training. You end up with multi-step
>> operations that work very well as sql*plus scripts. I also run
>> analogous queries in TOAD, PL/SQL Dev or SQL Dev -- but no DBA worth
>> hiring works in the click-and-drag world. But then I suppose this has
>> gotten off topic.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, James
>> Carman<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> > As a DBA, you use SQL Plus? I would think most DBAs would either use the
>> > console thingy that comes with Oracle or Toad. SQL Plus always seemed a
>> bit
>> > limiting to me, but that's probably because of my limited knowledge of
>> all
>> > the commands, so I need the nice GUI stuff to guide me along. :)
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Scott Swank <sc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> And if you're an Oracle DBA your main tool is called "SQL Plus".
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 8:58 PM, James
>> >> Carman<jc...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >> > +1 to sqldeveloper (java or native). For developers (not DBAs), it's
>> a
>> >> very
>> >> > nice tool and does what you need for the majority of the cases.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Vasu Srinivasan <va...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> JDeveloper is good to target a narrow Oracle infrastructure. We use
>> it
>> >> for
>> >> >> Oracle soa suite, and there are no other IDEs / plugins which can
>> match
>> >> >> that, it has good integration for ADF too. And thats pretty much it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Otherwise, it doesn't come half close to IDEA or Eclipse. The project
>> >> >> structure it generates is pretty un-intuitive. Bad IDE is indirectly
>> >> >> proportional to Productivity. Lack of good plugins is another major
>> >> reason.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Our team has only a few licenses for TOAD, so I use sql developer
>> (the
>> >> >> windows native version, not the java version).. Pretty happy with it,
>> >> >> though
>> >> >> it gets a bit slow at times. Last I used the java version was buggy
>> and
>> >> >> sssslllllow.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Daniel Toffetti <
>> dtoffe@yahoo.com.ar
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Juan Carlos Garcia M. <jcgarciam <at> gmail.com> writes:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > I always thought God used only in LISP :)
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Nicolas Melendez wrote:
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > god used Eclipse 1.0 to develop universe.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > NM
>> >> >> > > > Software Developer - Buenos aires, Argentina.
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No. Sadly, He didn't:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://xkcd.com/224/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Daniel
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Vasu Srinivasan
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@wicket.apache.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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