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Posted to solr-dev@lucene.apache.org by Israel Ekpo <is...@gmail.com> on 2009/11/01 04:23:56 UTC
Re: release announcement draft
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>wrote:
> Will do... all those changes look good. Thanks!
>
> -Yonik
> http://www.lucidimagination.com
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> > Hey Yonik,
> >
> > Looks great. A couple of comments:
> >
> > 1. How about instead of "... Apache Lucene project. Major features
> include
> > powerful full-text search,...", we say "... Apache Lucene project. Its
> major features include
> > powerful full-text search,..." [key change: added "Its" in front of major
> features]
> >
> > 2. Instead of "... and rich document (Word, PDF) handling..." we say "...
> and rich document (e.g., Word, PDF) handling..." [key change: added e.g.]
> >
> > 3. Instead of "... Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search
> and index replication, and powers the search and navigation features of
> > many of the world's largest internet sites...", we say "... Solr is
> highly scalable, providing distributed search and index replication, and it
> powers the search and navigation features of many of the world's largest
> internet sites..." [key change: added "and it powers..." rather than "...and
> powers..."]
> >
> > 4. Instead of "... Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges
> over arbitrary functions, nested queries of different syntaxes...", we say,
> "... Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
> functions, and nested queries of different syntaxes..." [key change, added
> "and nested queries"]
> >
> > Again, looks great, and these are minor comments, but thought I'd pass
> along to help crisp it up.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On 10/31/09 10:44 AM, "Yonik Seeley" <yo...@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
> >
> > Putting my marketing hat on... here's a draft for a release
> > announcement on other sites like theserverside (for an audience that
> > may or may not be familiar with what Solr is). I've tried to keep
> > the new feature list limited, while still trying to convey the scope
> > of this new release. Thoughts?
> >
> > -Yonik
> > http://www.lucidimagination.com
> >
> > --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT
> > --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT
> >
> > Apache Solr 1.4 has been released and is now available for public
> download!
> > http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/solr/
> >
> > Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search
> > platform from the Apache Lucene project. Major features include
> > powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic
> > clustering, database integration, and rich document (Word, PDF)
> > handling. Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search and
> > index replication, and powers the search and navigation features of
> > many of the world's largest internet sites.
> >
> > New Solr 1.4 features include
> > - Major performance enhancements in indexing, searching, and faceting
> > - Revamped all-Java index replication that's simple to configure and
> > can replicate config files
> > - Greatly improved database integration via the DataImportHandler
> > - Rich document processing (Word, PDF, HTML) via Apache Tika
> > - Dynamic search results clustering via Carrot2
> > - Multi-select faceting (support for multiple items in a single
> > category to be selected)
> > - Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
> > functions, nested queries of different syntaxes
> > - Many other plugins including Terms for auto-suggest, Statistics,
> > TermVectors, Deduplication
> >
> > --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT
> > --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT --- DRAFT
> >
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> > Senior Computer Scientist
> > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> > Email: Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
> > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/<http://sunset.usc.edu/%7Emattmann/>
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
>
Hi Yonik,
Your announcement looks great! However, would like to add just a little more
text to the introduction part of Solr especially for people that may have
heard about Lucene before but are hearing about Solr for the very first
time.
One of the reasons most developers are not involved with using Lucene for
creating search applications is because of the one of the following factors:
1. From my perspective, it's a bit complicated to set up and use out of the
box. It involves a fair amount of heavy lifting to make one's search
application utilize most of the features the Java version of lucene has to
offer.
2. If your are not using Java, most of the other ports of Lucene are usually
behind in terms of the features offered by the Java version of Lucene.
3. In some programming languages such as ActionScript, PHP, Objective-C no
reliable/effective lucene port is available.
Now, thanks to Solr the "language barrier" excuse is gone, especially
because of the ability to interact with the search server via HTTP and XML.
Hence, via Solr you can take advantage of virtually all the features Lucene
2.9 has to offer and even more without any headache of implementing Lucene.
The power of Web services should never be underestimated. Via, Solr
developers around the world can now deploy the amazing features offered by
Lucene 2.9 in virtually any programming language such as ActionScript,
JavaScript, C, Visual Basic, Objective-C etc.
Personally, the very first time I heard about Solr, the first impression I
got was that it is just another port of Lucene or Java library based on
Lucene and this is completely false.
So I think it would be nice if you could include the "http" feature of Solr,
so to speak, in the introduction section of your announcement just to
clarify that it is not just another Java library based on Lucene.
Again, this addition is targeted only towards individuals just hearing about
Solr for the very first time.
So I would suggest to add the following text hopefully without cluttering
the presentation:
--BEGIN--
Solr is not just another Java library based on Lucene. Nevertheless, powered
by Lucene 2.9 internally, it is a standalone enterprise search server with a
web-services-like API that allows one to index documents in XML or CSV
format over HTTP. The contents of the index then be queried via HTTP and
retrieved as an XML response, therefore making it seamlessly simplistic to
deploy the amazing features offered by the enterprise search server in
virtually any programming language such as ActionScript, JavaScript, C,
Visual Basic, Objective-C etc.
--END--
--OPTIONAL--
It's so easy even a caveman can use it!
--OPTIONAL--
Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Noble Paul നോബിള് नोब्ळ् <no...@corp.aol.com>.
+1
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
> OK, w/ grammar fixes from Israel (also checked into trunk):
>
>> but I thought since the "it" was referring to Solr (singular)
>
> It's referring to the APIs (plural).
>
> -Yonik
> http://www.lucidimagination.com
>
>
> -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
> Apache Solr 1.4 has been released and is now available for public download!
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/solr/
>
> Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search
> platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include
> powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic
> clustering, database integration, and rich document (e.g., Word, PDF)
> handling. Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search and
> index replication, and it powers the search and navigation features of
> many of the world's largest internet sites.
>
> Solr is written in Java and runs as a standalone full-text search server
> within a servlet container such as Tomcat. Solr uses the Lucene Java
> search library at its core for full-text indexing and search, and has
> REST-like HTTP/XML and JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually
> any programming language. Solr's powerful external configuration allows it to
> be tailored to almost any type of application without Java coding, and
> it has an extensive plugin architecture when more advanced
> customization is required.
>
>
> New Solr 1.4 features include
> - Major performance enhancements in indexing, searching, and faceting
> - Revamped all-Java index replication that's simple to configure and
> can replicate config files
> - Greatly improved database integration via the DataImportHandler
> - Rich document processing (Word, PDF, HTML) via Apache Tika
> - Dynamic search results clustering via Carrot2
> - Multi-select faceting (support for multiple items in a single
> category to be selected)
> - Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
> functions, and nested queries of different syntaxes
> - Many other plugins including Terms for auto-suggest, Statistics,
> TermVectors, Deduplication
> -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
>
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Noble Paul | Principal Engineer| AOL | http://aol.com
Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>.
OK, w/ grammar fixes from Israel (also checked into trunk):
> but I thought since the "it" was referring to Solr (singular)
It's referring to the APIs (plural).
-Yonik
http://www.lucidimagination.com
-- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
Apache Solr 1.4 has been released and is now available for public download!
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/solr/
Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search
platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include
powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic
clustering, database integration, and rich document (e.g., Word, PDF)
handling. Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search and
index replication, and it powers the search and navigation features of
many of the world's largest internet sites.
Solr is written in Java and runs as a standalone full-text search server
within a servlet container such as Tomcat. Solr uses the Lucene Java
search library at its core for full-text indexing and search, and has
REST-like HTTP/XML and JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually
any programming language. Solr's powerful external configuration allows it to
be tailored to almost any type of application without Java coding, and
it has an extensive plugin architecture when more advanced
customization is required.
New Solr 1.4 features include
- Major performance enhancements in indexing, searching, and faceting
- Revamped all-Java index replication that's simple to configure and
can replicate config files
- Greatly improved database integration via the DataImportHandler
- Rich document processing (Word, PDF, HTML) via Apache Tika
- Dynamic search results clustering via Carrot2
- Multi-select faceting (support for multiple items in a single
category to be selected)
- Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
functions, and nested queries of different syntaxes
- Many other plugins including Terms for auto-suggest, Statistics,
TermVectors, Deduplication
-- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Israel Ekpo <is...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>wrote:
> Thanks for the review! I already made some additional changes (I had
> forgotten one of the suggestions by Chris eariler too). New draft is
> at the end, I've already checked this into subversion. It's not live
> though, so further tweaks and cleanups can still be made.
>
> On that note: I'll be traveling tomorrow and tuesday... probably
> mostly out of touch, so others may need to handle further edits.
>
> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Israel Ekpo <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1A: Solr uses Lucene at it's core for indexing
> > 1B: Solr uses Lucene at its core for indexing
>
> Will do.
>
> > 2A: JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually any programming
> > language
> > 2B: JSON APIs that makes it easy to use from virtually any programming
> > language
>
> Is that change right? I'm no english major ;-)
>
> A makes foo easy
> A and B make foo easy
> Multiple A's make foo easy
>
> > 3A: Solr's powerful external configuration allow it to be tailored to
> almost
> > any type of application
> > 3B: Solr's powerful external configuration allows it to be tailored to
> > almost any type of application
>
> Hmm, OK.
>
> > Added a semi-colon to indicate the complete pause
> > 4A: without Java coding, however it has an extensive plugin architecture
> > when more advanced customization is required.
> > 4B: without Java coding; however it has an extensive plugin architecture
> > when more advanced customization is required.
>
> I had already changed this to use "and" instead of "however"... does
> that change things?
> What sounds best?
>
> -Yonik
> http://www.lucidimagination.com
>
> -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
> Apache Solr 1.4 has been released and is now available for public download!
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/solr/
>
> Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search
> platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include
> powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic
> clustering, database integration, and rich document (e.g., Word, PDF)
> handling. Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search and
> index replication, and it powers the search and navigation features of
> many of the world's largest internet sites.
>
> Solr is written in Java and runs as a standalone full-text search server
> within a servlet container such as Tomcat. Solr uses the Lucene Java
> search library at it's core for full-text indexing and search, and has
> REST-like HTTP/XML and JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually
> any programming language. Solr's powerful external configuration allow it
> to
> be tailored to almost any type of application without Java coding, and
> it has an extensive plugin architecture when more advanced
> customization is required.
>
>
> New Solr 1.4 features include
> - Major performance enhancements in indexing, searching, and faceting
> - Revamped all-Java index replication that's simple to configure and
> can replicate config files
> - Greatly improved database integration via the DataImportHandler
> - Rich document processing (Word, PDF, HTML) via Apache Tika
> - Dynamic search results clustering via Carrot2
> - Multi-select faceting (support for multiple items in a single
> category to be selected)
> - Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
> functions, and nested queries of different syntaxes
> - Many other plugins including Terms for auto-suggest, Statistics,
> TermVectors, Deduplication
> -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
>
About 2B, I am not an English major too :) but I thought since the "it" was
referring to Solr (singular) we should use "makes" instead of "make" but I
think that is OK since I am not 100% sure.
In 3B, I was using the same logic too.
About 4B, I prefer the second version with the "and" instead of "however",
the second version sounds better.
In summary, you guys have done a very good job! I am looking forward to the
official release.
Save journey during your trip.
--
"Good Enough" is not good enough.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once.
Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>.
Thanks for the review! I already made some additional changes (I had
forgotten one of the suggestions by Chris eariler too). New draft is
at the end, I've already checked this into subversion. It's not live
though, so further tweaks and cleanups can still be made.
On that note: I'll be traveling tomorrow and tuesday... probably
mostly out of touch, so others may need to handle further edits.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Israel Ekpo <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1A: Solr uses Lucene at it's core for indexing
> 1B: Solr uses Lucene at its core for indexing
Will do.
> 2A: JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually any programming
> language
> 2B: JSON APIs that makes it easy to use from virtually any programming
> language
Is that change right? I'm no english major ;-)
A makes foo easy
A and B make foo easy
Multiple A's make foo easy
> 3A: Solr's powerful external configuration allow it to be tailored to almost
> any type of application
> 3B: Solr's powerful external configuration allows it to be tailored to
> almost any type of application
Hmm, OK.
> Added a semi-colon to indicate the complete pause
> 4A: without Java coding, however it has an extensive plugin architecture
> when more advanced customization is required.
> 4B: without Java coding; however it has an extensive plugin architecture
> when more advanced customization is required.
I had already changed this to use "and" instead of "however"... does
that change things?
What sounds best?
-Yonik
http://www.lucidimagination.com
-- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
Apache Solr 1.4 has been released and is now available for public download!
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/solr/
Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search
platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include
powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic
clustering, database integration, and rich document (e.g., Word, PDF)
handling. Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search and
index replication, and it powers the search and navigation features of
many of the world's largest internet sites.
Solr is written in Java and runs as a standalone full-text search server
within a servlet container such as Tomcat. Solr uses the Lucene Java
search library at it's core for full-text indexing and search, and has
REST-like HTTP/XML and JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually
any programming language. Solr's powerful external configuration allow it to
be tailored to almost any type of application without Java coding, and
it has an extensive plugin architecture when more advanced
customization is required.
New Solr 1.4 features include
- Major performance enhancements in indexing, searching, and faceting
- Revamped all-Java index replication that's simple to configure and
can replicate config files
- Greatly improved database integration via the DataImportHandler
- Rich document processing (Word, PDF, HTML) via Apache Tika
- Dynamic search results clustering via Carrot2
- Multi-select faceting (support for multiple items in a single
category to be selected)
- Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
functions, and nested queries of different syntaxes
- Many other plugins including Terms for auto-suggest, Statistics,
TermVectors, Deduplication
-- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Israel Ekpo <is...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>wrote:
> OK, here's another shot that adds a second paragraph that describes a
> little
> more the form that Solr takes.
>
> Again, I'm thinking of reusing the first two big descriptive
> paragraphs (starting with "Solr is the popular") on Solr's home page,
> as it's main description.
>
> -Yonik
> http://www.lucidimagination.com
>
> -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
> Apache Solr 1.4 has been released and is now available for public download!
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/solr/
>
> Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search
> platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include
> powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic
> clustering, database integration, and rich document (e.g., Word, PDF)
> handling. Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search and
> index replication, and it powers the search and navigation features of
> many of the world's largest internet sites.
>
> Solr is written in Java and runs as a standalone full-text search server
> within a servlet container such as Tomcat.
> Solr uses Lucene at it's core for indexing and full-text search, and has
> REST-like HTTP/XML and JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually
> any programming language. Solr's powerful external configuration allow it
> to
> be tailored to almost any type of application without Java coding, however
> it has an extensive plugin architecture when more advanced
> customization is required.
>
>
> New Solr 1.4 features include
> - Major performance enhancements in indexing, searching, and faceting
> - Revamped all-Java index replication that's simple to configure and
> can replicate config files
> - Greatly improved database integration via the DataImportHandler
> - Rich document processing (Word, PDF, HTML) via Apache Tika
> - Dynamic search results clustering via Carrot2
> - Multi-select faceting (support for multiple items in a single
> category to be selected)
> - Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
> functions, nested queries of different syntaxes
> - Many other plugins including Terms for auto-suggest, Statistics,
> TermVectors, Deduplication
>
> -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
>
Hi Yonik,
I love this new introduction. In my opinion, it contains most of the facts
that someone hearing about Solr for the very first time needs to know about
what it is and what it can do. The distinction is clearer now, I believe.
I made slight changes (just punctuations) to your original text and I have
enclosed it between --BEGIN-- and --END-- below.
I made the following changes
1A: Solr uses Lucene at it's core for indexing
1B: Solr uses Lucene at its core for indexing
2A: JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually any programming
language
2B: JSON APIs that makes it easy to use from virtually any programming
language
3A: Solr's powerful external configuration allow it to be tailored to almost
any type of application
3B: Solr's powerful external configuration allows it to be tailored to
almost any type of application
Added a semi-colon to indicate the complete pause
4A: without Java coding, however it has an extensive plugin architecture
when more advanced customization is required.
4B: without Java coding; however it has an extensive plugin architecture
when more advanced customization is required.
--BEGIN--
Solr is written in Java and runs as a standalone full-text search server
within a servlet container such as Tomcat. Solr uses Lucene at its core for
indexing and full-text search, and has REST-like HTTP/XML and JSON APIs that
makes it easy to use from virtually any programming language. Solr's
powerful external configuration allows it to be tailored to almost any type
of application without Java coding; however it has an extensive plugin
architecture when more advanced customization is required.
--END--
--
"Good Enough" is not good enough.
To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift.
Quality First. Measure Twice. Cut Once.
Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>.
OK, here's another shot that adds a second paragraph that describes a little
more the form that Solr takes.
Again, I'm thinking of reusing the first two big descriptive
paragraphs (starting with "Solr is the popular") on Solr's home page,
as it's main description.
-Yonik
http://www.lucidimagination.com
-- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
Apache Solr 1.4 has been released and is now available for public download!
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/lucene/solr/
Solr is the popular, blazing fast open source enterprise search
platform from the Apache Lucene project. Its major features include
powerful full-text search, hit highlighting, faceted search, dynamic
clustering, database integration, and rich document (e.g., Word, PDF)
handling. Solr is highly scalable, providing distributed search and
index replication, and it powers the search and navigation features of
many of the world's largest internet sites.
Solr is written in Java and runs as a standalone full-text search server
within a servlet container such as Tomcat.
Solr uses Lucene at it's core for indexing and full-text search, and has
REST-like HTTP/XML and JSON APIs that make it easy to use from virtually
any programming language. Solr's powerful external configuration allow it to
be tailored to almost any type of application without Java coding, however
it has an extensive plugin architecture when more advanced
customization is required.
New Solr 1.4 features include
- Major performance enhancements in indexing, searching, and faceting
- Revamped all-Java index replication that's simple to configure and
can replicate config files
- Greatly improved database integration via the DataImportHandler
- Rich document processing (Word, PDF, HTML) via Apache Tika
- Dynamic search results clustering via Carrot2
- Multi-select faceting (support for multiple items in a single
category to be selected)
- Many powerful query enhancements, including ranges over arbitrary
functions, nested queries of different syntaxes
- Many other plugins including Terms for auto-suggest, Statistics,
TermVectors, Deduplication
-- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT -- DRAFT --
Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Noble Paul നോബിള് नोब्ळ् <no...@corp.aol.com>.
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com> wrote:
> I'm also trying to reuse the first paragraph to come up with an update
> to our front page description to basically define Solr.
>
> I'll think about how I can fit in the cross-language aspects...
> Perhaps it deserves a second paragraph.
>
> One characterization of Solr I've heard in the past is that it's just
> basically a wrapper around Lucene - something I emphatically disagree
> with and trying to leave behind a bit. As Solr matures, it needs to
> stand more on it's own, rather than to define itself in comparison to
> Lucene or be "easier than Lucene".
+1
Solr should eventually come out of the shadows of Lucene .
It should not be known as just a "Lucene wrapper"
>
> -Yonik
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Israel Ekpo <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your announcement looks great! However, would like to add just a little more
>> text to the introduction part of Solr especially for people that may have
>> heard about Lucene before but are hearing about Solr for the very first
>> time.
>>
>> One of the reasons most developers are not involved with using Lucene for
>> creating search applications is because of the one of the following factors:
>>
>> 1. From my perspective, it's a bit complicated to set up and use out of the
>> box. It involves a fair amount of heavy lifting to make one's search
>> application utilize most of the features the Java version of lucene has to
>> offer.
>>
>> 2. If your are not using Java, most of the other ports of Lucene are usually
>> behind in terms of the features offered by the Java version of Lucene.
>>
>> 3. In some programming languages such as ActionScript, PHP, Objective-C no
>> reliable/effective lucene port is available.
>>
>> Now, thanks to Solr the "language barrier" excuse is gone, especially
>> because of the ability to interact with the search server via HTTP and XML.
>>
>> Hence, via Solr you can take advantage of virtually all the features Lucene
>> 2.9 has to offer and even more without any headache of implementing Lucene.
>>
>> The power of Web services should never be underestimated. Via, Solr
>> developers around the world can now deploy the amazing features offered by
>> Lucene 2.9 in virtually any programming language such as ActionScript,
>> JavaScript, C, Visual Basic, Objective-C etc.
>>
>> Personally, the very first time I heard about Solr, the first impression I
>> got was that it is just another port of Lucene or Java library based on
>> Lucene and this is completely false.
>>
>> So I think it would be nice if you could include the "http" feature of Solr,
>> so to speak, in the introduction section of your announcement just to
>> clarify that it is not just another Java library based on Lucene.
>>
>> Again, this addition is targeted only towards individuals just hearing about
>> Solr for the very first time.
>>
>> So I would suggest to add the following text hopefully without cluttering
>> the presentation:
>>
>> --BEGIN--
>> Solr is not just another Java library based on Lucene. Nevertheless, powered
>> by Lucene 2.9 internally, it is a standalone enterprise search server with a
>> web-services-like API that allows one to index documents in XML or CSV
>> format over HTTP. The contents of the index then be queried via HTTP and
>> retrieved as an XML response, therefore making it seamlessly simplistic to
>> deploy the amazing features offered by the enterprise search server in
>> virtually any programming language such as ActionScript, JavaScript, C,
>> Visual Basic, Objective-C etc.
>> --END--
>>
>> --OPTIONAL--
>> It's so easy even a caveman can use it!
>> --OPTIONAL--
>>
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Re: release announcement draft
Posted by Yonik Seeley <yo...@lucidimagination.com>.
I'm also trying to reuse the first paragraph to come up with an update
to our front page description to basically define Solr.
I'll think about how I can fit in the cross-language aspects...
Perhaps it deserves a second paragraph.
One characterization of Solr I've heard in the past is that it's just
basically a wrapper around Lucene - something I emphatically disagree
with and trying to leave behind a bit. As Solr matures, it needs to
stand more on it's own, rather than to define itself in comparison to
Lucene or be "easier than Lucene".
-Yonik
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Israel Ekpo <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your announcement looks great! However, would like to add just a little more
> text to the introduction part of Solr especially for people that may have
> heard about Lucene before but are hearing about Solr for the very first
> time.
>
> One of the reasons most developers are not involved with using Lucene for
> creating search applications is because of the one of the following factors:
>
> 1. From my perspective, it's a bit complicated to set up and use out of the
> box. It involves a fair amount of heavy lifting to make one's search
> application utilize most of the features the Java version of lucene has to
> offer.
>
> 2. If your are not using Java, most of the other ports of Lucene are usually
> behind in terms of the features offered by the Java version of Lucene.
>
> 3. In some programming languages such as ActionScript, PHP, Objective-C no
> reliable/effective lucene port is available.
>
> Now, thanks to Solr the "language barrier" excuse is gone, especially
> because of the ability to interact with the search server via HTTP and XML.
>
> Hence, via Solr you can take advantage of virtually all the features Lucene
> 2.9 has to offer and even more without any headache of implementing Lucene.
>
> The power of Web services should never be underestimated. Via, Solr
> developers around the world can now deploy the amazing features offered by
> Lucene 2.9 in virtually any programming language such as ActionScript,
> JavaScript, C, Visual Basic, Objective-C etc.
>
> Personally, the very first time I heard about Solr, the first impression I
> got was that it is just another port of Lucene or Java library based on
> Lucene and this is completely false.
>
> So I think it would be nice if you could include the "http" feature of Solr,
> so to speak, in the introduction section of your announcement just to
> clarify that it is not just another Java library based on Lucene.
>
> Again, this addition is targeted only towards individuals just hearing about
> Solr for the very first time.
>
> So I would suggest to add the following text hopefully without cluttering
> the presentation:
>
> --BEGIN--
> Solr is not just another Java library based on Lucene. Nevertheless, powered
> by Lucene 2.9 internally, it is a standalone enterprise search server with a
> web-services-like API that allows one to index documents in XML or CSV
> format over HTTP. The contents of the index then be queried via HTTP and
> retrieved as an XML response, therefore making it seamlessly simplistic to
> deploy the amazing features offered by the enterprise search server in
> virtually any programming language such as ActionScript, JavaScript, C,
> Visual Basic, Objective-C etc.
> --END--
>
> --OPTIONAL--
> It's so easy even a caveman can use it!
> --OPTIONAL--
>