HTML 5 Input components and Pivot

[Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>]

Hi to all,
just a quick link on an interesting reading on Forms in HTML 5 :

http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

I think that to stay in the same field, we should be able to let users
of Pivot applications have at least the same experience (and easy to
use, for example like attributes in wtkx files). Some of these
features are already available today in Pivot, but others not ...
comments ?

Bye,
Sandro

Fwd: HTML 5 Input components and Pivot

[Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>]

Hi to all,
just a quick link on an interesting reading on Forms in HTML 5 :

http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html

I think that to stay in the same field, we should be able to let users
of Pivot applications have at least the same experience (and easy to
use, for example like attributes in wtkx files). Some of these
features are already available today in Pivot, but others not ...
comments ?

Bye,
Sandro

Re: HTML 5 Input components and Pivot

[Greg Brown <gk...@mac.com>]

When you reply, please try to be as specific as possible regarding any shortcomings you see. Pivot already supports many of the proposed features in HTML 5, though not necessarily in the exact same form. 

Also keep in mind that there are many, many valid use cases for HTML, whether version 4, 5, or later. Pivot and other RIA toolkits simply fill a different niche (smaller, perhaps, but equally valid)...

On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Sandro Martini wrote:

> Hi Greg,
> 
>> That article is a bit too long to skim. Can you summarize?
> More than an article, it's a chapter of a very interesting book on
> what we'll have to use in next years (HTML5, partially supported now
> from latest browsers), so i suggest to everyone a deep reading ... but
> time is limited so I agree with you, and I'll try to make a summary:
> 
> the important thing on this question in my opinion is to try to align
> Pivot to some of the features that we'll find in data-driven
> applications based on HTML5 (so the link to some of the new
> FORM-related features), or we could loss some opportunity for Pivot,
> all here. For example, probably users will expect to find in Pivot the
> same components present in HTML forms, and much more ... as it is.
> And JavaScript in those Browsers run faster than before, another point
> to keep in mind for us (the eternal Java <-> JavaScript war), but I'm
> sure it is already.
> 
> Detail will follow in next days, now it's too late for me, good night to all ...
> 
> Bye

Re: HTML 5 Input components and Pivot

[Sandro Martini <sa...@gmail.com>]

Hi Greg,

> That article is a bit too long to skim. Can you summarize?
More than an article, it's a chapter of a very interesting book on
what we'll have to use in next years (HTML5, partially supported now
from latest browsers), so i suggest to everyone a deep reading ... but
time is limited so I agree with you, and I'll try to make a summary:

the important thing on this question in my opinion is to try to align
Pivot to some of the features that we'll find in data-driven
applications based on HTML5 (so the link to some of the new
FORM-related features), or we could loss some opportunity for Pivot,
all here. For example, probably users will expect to find in Pivot the
same components present in HTML forms, and much more ... as it is.
And JavaScript in those Browsers run faster than before, another point
to keep in mind for us (the eternal Java <-> JavaScript war), but I'm
sure it is already.

Detail will follow in next days, now it's too late for me, good night to all ...

Bye

Re: HTML 5 Input components and Pivot

[Greg Brown <gk...@mac.com>]

That article is a bit too long to skim. Can you summarize?

On Feb 9, 2010, at 8:16 PM, Sandro Martini wrote:

> Hi to all,
> just a quick link on an interesting reading on Forms in HTML 5 :
> 
> http://diveintohtml5.org/forms.html
> 
> I think that to stay in the same field, we should be able to let users
> of Pivot applications have at least the same experience (and easy to
> use, for example like attributes in wtkx files). Some of these
> features are already available today in Pivot, but others not ...
> comments ?
> 
> Bye,
> Sandro