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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien opened a new pull request, #632: small download page cleanup.

mbien opened a new pull request, #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632

   moved a few items around for improved readability and consistency.
   
    * some inline sidenote has been moved down to `Deployment Platforms` as additional `tip`
    * snap moved to community section
    * mentioned that the zip is platform independent. This required to change the bullet list slightly otherwise it would have looked ugly.
    * tips/warning annotations are now consistently below the main text block. Since one was below and the other above.
   
   [link to github preview](https://github.com/mbien/netbeans-website/blob/1ac734c29300b3f2f7808232aa3bdff3c38f666c/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc)


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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
neilcsmith-net commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1043910901


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   > So I added a 'currently' to the sentence but didn't change anything else. Once the update is out someone has to edit this anyway.
   
   Funny, I had 'currently' in there until the final draft. Probably better there in hindsight. I don't think the patch update needs to be specifically mentioned. And, yes, we'll have to edit later, with something that informs the user of the need to run updates after install.



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
neilcsmith-net commented on PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#issuecomment-1342732952

   Convenience binaries don't require separate votes, and that statement really applies to all convenience binaries. As far as I know, the Snap account is under ASF, but check with Laszlo.


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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
mbien commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1044361179


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   this page slowly mutates into a README
   
   https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/afc6f1984febde6c5d860deddd3b0aeb97e0786f/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc
   
   inline diff:
   https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632/files?short_path=c43f571#diff-c43f5711a84258b33e45ee3f860621ef82e6f188c024a8c6abeb8f1ae5e07300
   
   tried to take all feedback into account the way I understood it.



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
mbien commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1044361649


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -52,7 +52,7 @@ https://archive.apache.org/dist/netbeans/  (//archived)
 https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/ (//current)
 ////
 
-Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} was released on November 30, 2022. See link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/{netbeans-version}[Release Notes on GitHub] for all changes in Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version}.
+Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} was released on November 30, 2022. See link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/{netbeans-version}[Release Notes on GitHub] for all changes.

Review Comment:
   done



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] lkishalmi commented on pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
lkishalmi commented on PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#issuecomment-1343226589

   Well, let me tell the story of the how the Snap package came into life.
   
   I was working on it before Geertjan reached out to me to join to the Apache NetBeans team. (I might have a snap package ffor NetBeans 8.2 somewhere). I was searching for the possibility to distribute that on Snapcraft. The name `netbeans` was reserved by Canonical, to prevent people simply put something up there that would cause issues. So I distributed that package on an S3 bucket and put a link on my blog. (I do not think anyone used that except me)
   
   I asked the community if we are interested to make this happen, when I became project member. There were positive responses, so I registered with my apache.org email and started a discussion with the Snapcraft team. That's how we got there.
   
   I sent out invitations to the release team @neilcsmith-net , @geertjanw and @ebarboni to be able to manage the Snap package.
   
   The code that generates the Snap package, initially was in the `netbeans` git repository, later on it was moved to `netbeans-tools`.
   
   We have two packages on Snapcraft, both are built and uploaded from Apache build infrastructure:
    - **netbeans**: Built from the binary zip package. It's triggered manually whenever a release/voting candidate is announced and uploaded to the edge channel. We have close to 35000 active installations, by now.
    -  **netbeans-dev**: Built right from master, automatically every Thursday. It is not advertised, not come up in the searches, but used around by ~20 people


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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
neilcsmith-net commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1043911664


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   A Known Issues section might be good though.



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
neilcsmith-net commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1043911664


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   A Known Issue section might be good though.



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
neilcsmith-net commented on PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#issuecomment-1342717452

   Generally looks good. But the Snap package is from ASF, so should be listed with the other Apache artefacts as far as I know? cc/ @lkishalmi 


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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien commented on pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
mbien commented on PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#issuecomment-1342723913

   > Generally looks good, thanks! But the Snap package is from ASF, so should be listed with the other Apache artefacts as far as I know? cc/ @lkishalmi
   
   the snap page says:
   https://snapcraft.io/netbeans
   "Disclaimer: This is a convenience binary of Apache NetBeans IDE, this is not an official release."
   
   I just searched my mailbox and I don't see a vote thread with snap in it. Is it developed somewhere else?


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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
mbien commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1044361179


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   this page slowly mutates into a README
   
   https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/afc6f1984febde6c5d860deddd3b0aeb97e0786f/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc
   
   tried to take all feedback into account the way I understood it.



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] lkishalmi commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
lkishalmi commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1044889706


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   A good release shall come with a good release notes. The three most important thing in a release notes are:
    - Downloads 
    - Changelog
    - Known Issues
   
   Our download page is a kind of release notes, we offloaded the changelog to github.



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] lkishalmi commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
lkishalmi commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1043876431


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   This is too small TIP. It would be better to have a `Known Issues` section. Also it would worth to mention that the team is planning  to release a patch, to fix those issues.



##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -52,7 +52,7 @@ https://archive.apache.org/dist/netbeans/  (//archived)
 https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/ (//current)
 ////
 
-Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} was released on November 30, 2022. See link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/{netbeans-version}[Release Notes on GitHub] for all changes in Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version}.
+Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} was released on November 30, 2022. See link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans/releases/tag/{netbeans-version}[Release Notes on GitHub] for all changes.

Review Comment:
   I would put the Changes in a separate section on this page even if that's just a link to GitHub



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien commented on a diff in pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
mbien commented on code in PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#discussion_r1043889261


##########
netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc:
##########
@@ -75,36 +76,37 @@ link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/Apache-Net
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans_{netbeans-version}-1_all.deb.asc[PGP ASC])
 * link:{url-download}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm[apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans-installers/{netbeans-version}/apache-netbeans-{netbeans-version}-0.noarch.rpm.asc[PGP ASC])
+* link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[Linux snap package]
+
+*Source:*
 
-- Source: link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
+* link:{url-download}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip[netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip] (link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.sha512[SHA-512],
 link:{url-download-keychecksum}netbeans/{netbeans-version}/netbeans-{netbeans-version}-source.zip.asc[PGP ASC])
 
-////
-NOTE: Using https below is highly recommended.
-////
 Officially, it is important that you link:https://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi#verify[verify the integrity]
 of the downloaded files using the PGP signatures (.asc file) or a hash (.sha512 files).
 The PGP keys used to sign this release are available link:https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS[here].
 
-Apache NetBeans can also be installed as a self-contained link:https://snapcraft.io/netbeans[snap package] on Linux.
-
 == Community Installers
 
-IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
-While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
-Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
-
 - link:https://www.codelerity.com/netbeans/[Codelerity / Gj IT packages] - Windows, macOS and
 Linux (.deb / .rpm / .AppImage) built with
 link:https://github.com/apache/netbeans-nbpackage/[NBPackage]. Most
 include a local JDK runtime for the IDE to run on, for a self-contained out-of-the-box
-experience (other JDK's may be used for projects).
+experience.
+
+
+IMPORTANT: Individual NetBeans committers may provide additional binary packages as a convenience.
+While built using the Apache NetBeans release, they are not releases of the Apache Software
+Foundation. They may include other contents (eg. JDK) under additional license terms.
 
 == Deployment Platforms
 
 The Apache NetBeans {netbeans-version} binary releases require JDK 11+, and officially support running on JDK 11 and JDK 17.
 
-TIP: Gradle projects in Apache NetBeans 16 are not supported when running the IDE on JDK 19.
+TIP: The Runtime JDK NetBeans uses does not influence the JDK range projects can use.

Review Comment:
   > This is too small TIP
   
   i don't understand what this means. This was moved from L101 since it applies to all artifacts and fits better to the deployment section IMO. You want me to remove this completely?
   
   > Also it would worth to mention that the team is planning to release a patch, to fix those issues.
   
   I actually commented the same on the last PR https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/631#discussion_r1042532670
   
   So I added a 'currently' to the sentence but didn't change anything else. Once the update is out someone has to edit this anyway.



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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien commented on pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
mbien commented on PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632#issuecomment-1343267452

   @lkishalmi interesting! Thanks for the details, didn't know about all that.
   
   Since its built from the zip, doesn't contain anything else and is maintained by a PMC i simply added it to the main list now.
   
   [update](https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/blob/0150c062ce563703dc9f5abcfaf39fcf1f79a57c/netbeans.apache.org/src/content/download/nb16/index.adoc)


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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] mbien merged pull request #632: small download page cleanup.

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
mbien merged PR #632:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/632


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