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[APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Hi,
how are lightning talks organized at ApacheCon? I've seen very strict
sessions where you were not allowed to bring anything but yourself (so no
slides) and less restricted ones where the only restriction was that it had
to be done in 10 Minutes.
Thank you,
Benedikt
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
As I said, it is completely at the discretion of the MC. I'm just saying
that is one rationale. It's not like there's policy on this
On Jun 12, 2016 17:38, "Roman Shaposhnik" <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> > Another important reason to forbid slides is that one point of lightning
> > talks is to offer the stage to people that would not otherwise give a
> talk.
> > Thus, keeping the bar as low as possible encourages people to step up who
> > haven't necessarily prepared anything ahead of time.
>
> Yes, but forbid? Why? If somebody wants one or two slides in PDF why not
> make it an option? Be draconian in the deadline of when you need a PDF
> (since it has to be stitched into a single slide deck on a single
> laptop) but otherwise
> I see no danger.
>
> It does place more burden on the organizer of the session (as last
> ApacheCON has
> demonstrated).
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> Another important reason to forbid slides is that one point of lightning
> talks is to offer the stage to people that would not otherwise give a talk.
> Thus, keeping the bar as low as possible encourages people to step up who
> haven't necessarily prepared anything ahead of time.
Yes, but forbid? Why? If somebody wants one or two slides in PDF why not
make it an option? Be draconian in the deadline of when you need a PDF
(since it has to be stitched into a single slide deck on a single
laptop) but otherwise
I see no danger.
It does place more burden on the organizer of the session (as last
ApacheCON has
demonstrated).
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
Another important reason to forbid slides is that one point of lightning
talks is to offer the stage to people that would not otherwise give a talk.
Thus, keeping the bar as low as possible encourages people to step up who
haven't necessarily prepared anything ahead of time.
On Jun 12, 2016 10:03, "Marvin Humphrey" <ma...@rectangular.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> > So why No Slides?
> >
> > Mostly it's to prevent the switch-out of laptops which
> > causes delays. This was back when the timer-app was run on
> > my laptop on the podium. Since we do this differently now,
> > we may consider a change ;)
>
> How about one slide?
>
> * Possible to queue with no delay (depending on projection rig and
> availability of support staff)
> * No fiddling with presentation tools.
> * Encourage presenters to be concise.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> So why No Slides?
>
> Mostly it's to prevent the switch-out of laptops which
> causes delays. This was back when the timer-app was run on
> my laptop on the podium. Since we do this differently now,
> we may consider a change ;)
How about one slide?
* Possible to queue with no delay (depending on projection rig and
availability of support staff)
* No fiddling with presentation tools.
* Encourage presenters to be concise.
Marvin Humphrey
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
So why No Slides?
Mostly it's to prevent the switch-out of laptops which
causes delays. This was back when the timer-app was run on
my laptop on the podium. Since we do this differently now,
we may consider a change ;)
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:06 PM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>
> As a regular LightningTalk MC at ApacheCon / Apache Big Data, we look
> for a mix of talks, often focusing on the community and humor aspects.
>
> Talks are 5 minutes, with a timer. Slides are not allowed unless you're
> Rich Bowen (or, can promise to be as informative *and* amusing as Rich is!).
>
> Sometimes we have the "Fast Feather" track, which is the 15 minute
> format William notes below; that usually focuses on Incubating projects.
> It depends on the ApacheCon program if we run that or not.
>
> Volunteering to help review talks, work with projects to suggest
> track-days, and the like can also be a big help. Currently, Rich is the
> ASF liaison to the Linux Foundation team that actually manages the whole
> ApacheCon planning process.
>
> Separately, the Podling Shark Tank sessions at the past
> ApacheCon|BigData in Vancouver were popular, contact Roman if your
> content would fit in that format.
>
> ApacheCon past audio recordings (selected talks):
> http://feathercast.apache.org/tag/apachecon/
>
> ApacheCon|BigData 2016 videos (keynotes only; that's all that attracted
> sponsors to help fund)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZnf8Nn3Fo&list=PLGeM09tlguZTvqV5g7KwFhxDlWi4njK6n
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTfIAWhd3qI&list=PLGeM09tlguZQ3ouijqG4r1YIIZYxCKsLp
>
> - Shane
>
> William A Rowe Jr wrote on 6/6/16 4:46 PM:
>> Note that we also have held incubator lighting talks in the incubator track
>> (not a single unified session in the ballroom) which are perfect for what
>> you are asking.
>>
>> Historically these have been 3 sessions per hour, 15 minutes each, replete
>> with slide decks. Exactly what you are thinking of, but tuned to the
>> incubating, not top-level projects.
>> On Jun 6, 2016 2:03 PM, "Benedikt Ritter" <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> schrieb am Mo., 6. Juni 2016 um
>>> 20:09 Uhr:
>>>
>>>> Our lightning talks have ranged from the theatrical, to the silly, to the
>>>> deep
>>>> tech dive into the edges of the ASF.
>>>>
>>>> The programming is 5 minutes. No slides are allowed (but some get away
>>>> with them on the discretion of the MCs.) Some who use them choose the
>>>> auto-advance program (n seconds per slide, no control/overrides allowed.)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you William!
>>>
>>> So it's not the right platform for a "I'll show you some code example to
>>> get you started with Project XYZ" kind of talk, right?
>>>
>>> Benedikt
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> how are lightning talks organized at ApacheCon? I've seen very strict
>>>>> sessions where you were not allowed to bring anything but yourself (so
>>> no
>>>>> slides) and less restricted ones where the only restriction was that it
>>>> had
>>>>> to be done in 10 Minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Benedikt
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
> As a regular LightningTalk MC at ApacheCon / Apache Big Data, we look
> for a mix of talks, often focusing on the community and humor aspects.
>
> Talks are 5 minutes, with a timer. Slides are not allowed unless you're
> Rich Bowen (or, can promise to be as informative *and* amusing as Rich is!).
>
> Sometimes we have the "Fast Feather" track, which is the 15 minute
> format William notes below; that usually focuses on Incubating projects.
> It depends on the ApacheCon program if we run that or not.
>
> Volunteering to help review talks, work with projects to suggest
> track-days, and the like can also be a big help. Currently, Rich is the
> ASF liaison to the Linux Foundation team that actually manages the whole
> ApacheCon planning process.
>
> Separately, the Podling Shark Tank sessions at the past
> ApacheCon|BigData in Vancouver were popular, contact Roman if your
> content would fit in that format.
>
> ApacheCon past audio recordings (selected talks):
> http://feathercast.apache.org/tag/apachecon/
>
> ApacheCon|BigData 2016 videos (keynotes only; that's all that attracted
> sponsors to help fund)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZnf8Nn3Fo&list=PLGeM09tlguZTvqV5g7KwFhxDlWi4njK6n
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTfIAWhd3qI&list=PLGeM09tlguZQ3ouijqG4r1YIIZYxCKsLp
And to pile on top of Shane's excellent answer: keep in mind that
Podling Shark Tank
wasn't some grand plan but rather a session submitted via regular CFP
of the conference.
I guess what I'm trying to say is this: whatever your crazy idea --
just submit it! ;-)
Thanks,
Roman.
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
>
> Talks are 5 minutes, with a timer. Slides are not allowed unless you're
> Rich Bowen (or, can promise to be as informative *and* amusing as Rich
is!).
This began as something of an inside joke, back in Stuttgart in 2006, and
the slides thing is now entirely at the discretion of the MC. I haven't
done slides at a lightning talk in some time.
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>.
As a regular LightningTalk MC at ApacheCon / Apache Big Data, we look
for a mix of talks, often focusing on the community and humor aspects.
Talks are 5 minutes, with a timer. Slides are not allowed unless you're
Rich Bowen (or, can promise to be as informative *and* amusing as Rich is!).
Sometimes we have the "Fast Feather" track, which is the 15 minute
format William notes below; that usually focuses on Incubating projects.
It depends on the ApacheCon program if we run that or not.
Volunteering to help review talks, work with projects to suggest
track-days, and the like can also be a big help. Currently, Rich is the
ASF liaison to the Linux Foundation team that actually manages the whole
ApacheCon planning process.
Separately, the Podling Shark Tank sessions at the past
ApacheCon|BigData in Vancouver were popular, contact Roman if your
content would fit in that format.
ApacheCon past audio recordings (selected talks):
http://feathercast.apache.org/tag/apachecon/
ApacheCon|BigData 2016 videos (keynotes only; that's all that attracted
sponsors to help fund)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZnf8Nn3Fo&list=PLGeM09tlguZTvqV5g7KwFhxDlWi4njK6n
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTfIAWhd3qI&list=PLGeM09tlguZQ3ouijqG4r1YIIZYxCKsLp
- Shane
William A Rowe Jr wrote on 6/6/16 4:46 PM:
> Note that we also have held incubator lighting talks in the incubator track
> (not a single unified session in the ballroom) which are perfect for what
> you are asking.
>
> Historically these have been 3 sessions per hour, 15 minutes each, replete
> with slide decks. Exactly what you are thinking of, but tuned to the
> incubating, not top-level projects.
> On Jun 6, 2016 2:03 PM, "Benedikt Ritter" <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> schrieb am Mo., 6. Juni 2016 um
>> 20:09 Uhr:
>>
>>> Our lightning talks have ranged from the theatrical, to the silly, to the
>>> deep
>>> tech dive into the edges of the ASF.
>>>
>>> The programming is 5 minutes. No slides are allowed (but some get away
>>> with them on the discretion of the MCs.) Some who use them choose the
>>> auto-advance program (n seconds per slide, no control/overrides allowed.)
>>>
>>
>> Thank you William!
>>
>> So it's not the right platform for a "I'll show you some code example to
>> get you started with Project XYZ" kind of talk, right?
>>
>> Benedikt
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> how are lightning talks organized at ApacheCon? I've seen very strict
>>>> sessions where you were not allowed to bring anything but yourself (so
>> no
>>>> slides) and less restricted ones where the only restriction was that it
>>> had
>>>> to be done in 10 Minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Benedikt
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Note that we also have held incubator lighting talks in the incubator track
(not a single unified session in the ballroom) which are perfect for what
you are asking.
Historically these have been 3 sessions per hour, 15 minutes each, replete
with slide decks. Exactly what you are thinking of, but tuned to the
incubating, not top-level projects.
On Jun 6, 2016 2:03 PM, "Benedikt Ritter" <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> schrieb am Mo., 6. Juni 2016 um
> 20:09 Uhr:
>
> > Our lightning talks have ranged from the theatrical, to the silly, to the
> > deep
> > tech dive into the edges of the ASF.
> >
> > The programming is 5 minutes. No slides are allowed (but some get away
> > with them on the discretion of the MCs.) Some who use them choose the
> > auto-advance program (n seconds per slide, no control/overrides allowed.)
> >
>
> Thank you William!
>
> So it's not the right platform for a "I'll show you some code example to
> get you started with Project XYZ" kind of talk, right?
>
> Benedikt
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > how are lightning talks organized at ApacheCon? I've seen very strict
> > > sessions where you were not allowed to bring anything but yourself (so
> no
> > > slides) and less restricted ones where the only restriction was that it
> > had
> > > to be done in 10 Minutes.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Benedikt
> > >
> >
>
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>.
William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net> schrieb am Mo., 6. Juni 2016 um
20:09 Uhr:
> Our lightning talks have ranged from the theatrical, to the silly, to the
> deep
> tech dive into the edges of the ASF.
>
> The programming is 5 minutes. No slides are allowed (but some get away
> with them on the discretion of the MCs.) Some who use them choose the
> auto-advance program (n seconds per slide, no control/overrides allowed.)
>
Thank you William!
So it's not the right platform for a "I'll show you some code example to
get you started with Project XYZ" kind of talk, right?
Benedikt
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > how are lightning talks organized at ApacheCon? I've seen very strict
> > sessions where you were not allowed to bring anything but yourself (so no
> > slides) and less restricted ones where the only restriction was that it
> had
> > to be done in 10 Minutes.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Benedikt
> >
>
Re: [APACHECON] Question about Lightning Talks
Posted by William A Rowe Jr <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Our lightning talks have ranged from the theatrical, to the silly, to the
deep
tech dive into the edges of the ASF.
The programming is 5 minutes. No slides are allowed (but some get away
with them on the discretion of the MCs.) Some who use them choose the
auto-advance program (n seconds per slide, no control/overrides allowed.)
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Benedikt Ritter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> how are lightning talks organized at ApacheCon? I've seen very strict
> sessions where you were not allowed to bring anything but yourself (so no
> slides) and less restricted ones where the only restriction was that it had
> to be done in 10 Minutes.
>
> Thank you,
> Benedikt
>