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[users@httpd] Business Setup

Howdy;

A friend wants me to help him set up a business site.
I've told him I know next to nothing about what he
wants to do, but that still makes me, "the only one
he knows, who knows anything about it."  I said I'd
ask for some info, but that he'd have to be the one
to deal with it.  Has to be, or he'll be going out
of business on the first day, out of sheer ignorance.
That, and I know next to nothing about properly
setting up a web site, let alone one like he wants.

He said he wanted to do a small catalog, with
shopping cart, and do credit/debit/paypal.  I told
him he's going to have to secure it all, too, so
people's card info wouldn't be travelling to Russia,
etc.

There's probably a dozen or more other things I
don't know anything about.

Do any of you folks know anything, info sites, services,
and or, etc., that I can pass along to him?

Thanks in advance.

Bill

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Re: [users@httpd] Business Setup

Posted by Bill Vance <pr...@xpresso.seaslug.org>.

On Sat, 6 Sep 2014, Matthew Smith wrote:

> I have a decent paypal checkout solution done in
> ColdFusion.  I would love a chance to help.


Is that something he can just plug into his html, or
something that requires commercial packages being
purchased, or what?  I'm not familiar with the
ColdFusion package, and what it is/does.


> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Bill Vance
> <pr...@xpresso.seaslug.org> wrote:
>
>       Howdy;
>
>       A friend wants me to help him set up a
>       business site.
>       I've told him I know next to nothing about
>       what he
>       wants to do, but that still makes me, "the
>       only one
>       he knows, who knows anything about it."  I
>       said I'd
>       ask for some info, but that he'd have to be
>       the one
>       to deal with it.  Has to be, or he'll be
>       going out
>       of business on the first day, out of sheer
>       ignorance.
>       That, and I know next to nothing about
>       properly
>       setting up a web site, let alone one like he
>       wants.
>
>       He said he wanted to do a small catalog, with
>       shopping cart, and do credit/debit/paypal.  I
>       told
>       him he's going to have to secure it all, too,
>       so
>       people's card info wouldn't be travelling to
>       Russia,
>       etc.
>
>       There's probably a dozen or more other things
>       I
>       don't know anything about.
>
>       Do any of you folks know anything, info
>       sites, services,
>       and or, etc., that I can pass along to him?
>
>       Thanks in advance.
>
>       Bill
> 
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Re: [users@httpd] Business Setup

Posted by Mauricio Tavares <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Bill Vance <pr...@xpresso.seaslug.org> wrote:
>
> Just a quick word of thanks to everyone who chimed in.
> John's decided to do a bit of boning up before taking
> the big plunge, so I guess I'm off the hook for now.
>
      Good to hear!

      FYI, I used to work in a company that wrote the interface
between the point of sale -- card reader, website, whatever -- and the
payment processor (which would then move money between accounts). It
was expected that user would then create the interface -- website,
cash register screen -- and make sure to keep the computer where the
transactions were stored secured. And that worked fine with a lot of
companies (and government institutions) big and small.

Now, some companies would license our software and then create a
website/interface thingie so companies with limited programming skills
could use their system to handle the money part of the sales (for a
fee of course). Paypal offers something similar to what I am talking
about and so does squareup and probably google. That keeps you out of
scope as Rainer was mentioning.

My point is that is pays to contact those companies and check their prices.

>   :-)
>
> Bill
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Business Setup

Posted by Bill Vance <pr...@xpresso.seaslug.org>.
Just a quick word of thanks to everyone who chimed in.
John's decided to do a bit of boning up before taking
the big plunge, so I guess I'm off the hook for now.

   :-)

Bill

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Re: [users@httpd] Business Setup

Posted by "Rainer M. Canavan" <ra...@sevenval.com>.
On Sep 7, 2014, at 04:39 , John Iliffe <jo...@iliffe.ca> wrote:

> Someone should also bring to his attention that the web site will have to 
> comply with the PCIA requirements (all several hundred of them!) if he is 
> planning on taking credit and debit cards.
> 
> This is NOT a trivial undertaking for those small e-commerce businesses 
> that run their own servers.
> 
> Good luck though; it can be done and there is a sense of satisfaction in 
> getting past all the red tape!

The easiest way to be PCI compliant is to be out of scope. There are enough 
solutions for handling online payments where you don't have to touch the 
credit card data yourself. I'd assume that most even support recurring payments
using a token instead of the credit card number. Since the original request 
apparently comes from someone who doesn't know much about running or securing a 
webserver, I'd recommend finding a service that runs the whole thing as a service, 
including payment processing. 

rainer
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Re: [users@httpd] Business Setup

Posted by John Iliffe <jo...@iliffe.ca>.
Someone should also bring to his attention that the web site will have to 
comply with the PCIA requirements (all several hundred of them!) if he is 
planning on taking credit and debit cards.

This is NOT a trivial undertaking for those small e-commerce businesses 
that run their own servers.

Good luck though; it can be done and there is a sense of satisfaction in 
getting past all the red tape!

John
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On Saturday 06 September 2014 22:13:37 Matthew Smith wrote:
> I have a decent paypal checkout solution done in ColdFusion.  I would
> love a chance to help.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Bill Vance <pr...@xpresso.seaslug.org> 
wrote:
> > Howdy;
> > 
> > A friend wants me to help him set up a business site.
> > I've told him I know next to nothing about what he
> > wants to do, but that still makes me, "the only one
> > he knows, who knows anything about it."  I said I'd
> > ask for some info, but that he'd have to be the one
> > to deal with it.  Has to be, or he'll be going out
> > of business on the first day, out of sheer ignorance.
> > That, and I know next to nothing about properly
> > setting up a web site, let alone one like he wants.
> > 
> > He said he wanted to do a small catalog, with
> > shopping cart, and do credit/debit/paypal.  I told
> > him he's going to have to secure it all, too, so
> > people's card info wouldn't be travelling to Russia,
> > etc.
> > 
> > There's probably a dozen or more other things I
> > don't know anything about.
> > 
> > Do any of you folks know anything, info sites, services,
> > and or, etc., that I can pass along to him?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
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Re: [users@httpd] Business Setup

Posted by Matthew Smith <ch...@gmail.com>.
I have a decent paypal checkout solution done in ColdFusion.  I would love
a chance to help.


On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Bill Vance <pr...@xpresso.seaslug.org> wrote:

>
> Howdy;
>
> A friend wants me to help him set up a business site.
> I've told him I know next to nothing about what he
> wants to do, but that still makes me, "the only one
> he knows, who knows anything about it."  I said I'd
> ask for some info, but that he'd have to be the one
> to deal with it.  Has to be, or he'll be going out
> of business on the first day, out of sheer ignorance.
> That, and I know next to nothing about properly
> setting up a web site, let alone one like he wants.
>
> He said he wanted to do a small catalog, with
> shopping cart, and do credit/debit/paypal.  I told
> him he's going to have to secure it all, too, so
> people's card info wouldn't be travelling to Russia,
> etc.
>
> There's probably a dozen or more other things I
> don't know anything about.
>
> Do any of you folks know anything, info sites, services,
> and or, etc., that I can pass along to him?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
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