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Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Please write to this list before the 6 September deadline (so, do it by 
5 September, thanks!) if you would like to see updates to bundled 
dictionaries in OpenOffice 4.0.1.

Dictionary updates are tracked in
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123038
and updates are already scheduled for: English, French, Italian.

If you have doubts, the dictionaries we bundle now are listed at
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extensions.lst

To find new dictionaries to bundle, please use
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> That was discussed on the ES mailing list for the 3.4 release, and the
> consensus at the time was to ship es-ES as default dictionary instead of
> es-ANY. Of course this can be discussed again, but it seems to me there is
> not enough time to consider this in detail before 4.0.1 release

OK, I'll update to 0.7 es_ES for version 4.0.1; and for version 4.1 this 
can be evaluated again.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Ricardo Palomares Martínez <rp...@yahoo.es>.
El 02/09/13 21:51, Ricardo Berlasso escribió:
> 2013/9/1 Ricardo Palomares Martínez <rp...@yahoo.es>
>> From what I've seen at
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extensions.lst
>>
>> currently the shipped Spanish dictionary is the variant for Spain. We
>> have a lot of variants for different countries, plus a neutral
>> dictionary; I'm not sure if it would be better to ship the neutral
>> Spanish version;
> 
> 
> That was discussed on the ES mailing list for the 3.4 release, and the
> consensus at the time was to ship es-ES as default dictionary instead of
> es-ANY. Of course this can be discussed again, but it seems to me there is
> not enough time to consider this in detail before 4.0.1 release, so I think
> it's better for now to just update es-ES to the last version and then, if
> there is interest, to discuss again the use of es-ANY for the next AOO
> release.


Oh, that's OK, I just wanted to raise awareness of es_ANY in case it
had been overseen. :-)

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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Ricardo Berlasso <rg...@gmail.com>.
2013/9/1 Ricardo Palomares Martínez <rp...@yahoo.es>

> El 31/08/13 22:37, Andrea Pescetti escribió:
> > Please write to this list before the 6 September deadline (so, do it
> > by 5 September, thanks!) if you would like to see updates to bundled
> > dictionaries in OpenOffice 4.0.1.
>
>
> Yes, we'd like to update the Spanish dictionary to version 0.7.


Thanks for the update! I just opened an issue to track the update of ES
dictionary

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123168



> From
> what I've seen at
>
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extensions.lst
>
> currently the shipped Spanish dictionary is the variant for Spain. We
> have a lot of variants for different countries, plus a neutral
> dictionary; I'm not sure if it would be better to ship the neutral
> Spanish version;


That was discussed on the ES mailing list for the 3.4 release, and the
consensus at the time was to ship es-ES as default dictionary instead of
es-ANY. Of course this can be discussed again, but it seems to me there is
not enough time to consider this in detail before 4.0.1 release, so I think
it's better for now to just update es-ES to the last version and then, if
there is interest, to discuss again the use of es-ANY for the next AOO
release.

Thanks again for the new dictionary!

Regards
Ricardo




> anyway, these are the links to the dictionaries:
>
> es-ES:
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/download/17511
>
> Neutral Spanish:
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/download/17520
>
> As we've released the 0.7 version after a year of changes and
> transition, it would be great to ship this update in the new
> OpenOffice download. Thanks a lot.
>
> --
> Ricardo Palomares (RickieES)
> Diaspora: https://diasp.eu/u/rickiees
> Skype: rickie0341971
> Jabber: rpmdisguise-nave@jabber.org
>
>
>
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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Ricardo Palomares Martínez <rp...@yahoo.es>.
El 31/08/13 22:37, Andrea Pescetti escribió:
> Please write to this list before the 6 September deadline (so, do it
> by 5 September, thanks!) if you would like to see updates to bundled
> dictionaries in OpenOffice 4.0.1.


Yes, we'd like to update the Spanish dictionary to version 0.7. From
what I've seen at

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extensions.lst

currently the shipped Spanish dictionary is the variant for Spain. We
have a lot of variants for different countries, plus a neutral
dictionary; I'm not sure if it would be better to ship the neutral
Spanish version; anyway, these are the links to the dictionaries:

es-ES:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/download/17511

Neutral Spanish:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/download/17520

As we've released the 0.7 version after a year of changes and
transition, it would be great to ship this update in the new
OpenOffice download. Thanks a lot.

-- 
Ricardo Palomares (RickieES)
Diaspora: https://diasp.eu/u/rickiees
Skype: rickie0341971
Jabber: rpmdisguise-nave@jabber.org




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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Aivaras Stepukonis <as...@gmail.com>.
I'll do that once 4.0.1 is out and I've had enough time to inspect my 
work in the actual UI.

Aivaras

2013.09.09 23:57, Andrea Pescetti rašė:
> On 06/09/2013 11:51, Olivier R. wrote:
>> Le 06/09/2013 09:09, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
>>> French users should test the upgrade path from OpenOffice 3.4.1 or 4.0
>>> when the next snapshot is available: as discussed here, the dictionary
>>> was replaced and not merely updated.
>
> The new snapshot is available at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds 
>
>
> But testers, please note that the "blacklisting" (done with the IDs 
> Olivier provided) can be triggered only for those who upgrade from 
> version 3.x, so users who upgrade from 4.0 will still end up with two 
> extensions.
>
>> Can you also publish the extension, please?
>
> Publishing a release must be done by the extension author, in the 
> "Releases" page.
>
> I think it's OK to already publish the new dictionary.
>
> As for the old dictionary, I don't know what scenario is best for 
> users. Maybe it's best that you keep it unpublished until 4.0.1 is 
> available, and then publish it but change the message (you are 
> displaying a message, right?) into something like "A new dictionary 
> extension is available. If you are using OpenOffice 4.0.1 or later you 
> already have the new extension. Otherwise, you can download it from ...".
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 10/09/2013 10:20, Olivier R. wrote:
> Le 09/09/2013 22:57, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
>> On 06/09/2013 11:51, Olivier R. wrote:
>>> Le 06/09/2013 09:09, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
>>>> French users should test the upgrade path from OpenOffice 3.4.1 or 4.0
>>>> when the next snapshot is available: as discussed here, the dictionary
>>>> was replaced and not merely updated.
>> The new snapshot is available at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
> It installed only the old French extension 4.2.

Sorry, the snapshot still needed to be updated. The one now available at 
that page should:
1) Have the new dictionary
2) Ignore (=remove) the old dictionary in 3.x -> 4.x profile migrations

> I can publish releases but not the extension projects.
> Projects:
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/french-dictionaries
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/french-dictionary-modern
> are unpublished.

OK, I'll take care of asking and getting that done.

> I’ve updated the message.
> I’ll publish the release when OO 4.0.1 is available.

Very good, thank you.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by "Olivier R." <ol...@gmail.com>.
Le 09/09/2013 22:57, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
> On 06/09/2013 11:51, Olivier R. wrote:
>> Le 06/09/2013 09:09, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
>>> French users should test the upgrade path from OpenOffice 3.4.1 or 4.0
>>> when the next snapshot is available: as discussed here, the dictionary
>>> was replaced and not merely updated.
>
> The new snapshot is available at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

It installed only the old French extension 4.2.


>> Can you also publish the extension, please?
>
> Publishing a release must be done by the extension author, in the
> "Releases" page.
>
> I think it's OK to already publish the new dictionary.

I can publish releases but not the extension projects.
Projects:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/french-dictionaries
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/french-dictionary-modern
are unpublished.


> As for the old dictionary, I don't know what scenario is best for users.
> Maybe it's best that you keep it unpublished until 4.0.1 is available,
> and then publish it but change the message (you are displaying a
> message, right?) into something like "A new dictionary extension is
> available. If you are using OpenOffice 4.0.1 or later you already have
> the new extension. Otherwise, you can download it from ...".

I’ve updated the message.
I’ll publish the release when OO 4.0.1 is available.


Regards,
Olivier


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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 06/09/2013 11:51, Olivier R. wrote:
> Le 06/09/2013 09:09, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
>> French users should test the upgrade path from OpenOffice 3.4.1 or 4.0
>> when the next snapshot is available: as discussed here, the dictionary
>> was replaced and not merely updated.

The new snapshot is available at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

But testers, please note that the "blacklisting" (done with the IDs 
Olivier provided) can be triggered only for those who upgrade from 
version 3.x, so users who upgrade from 4.0 will still end up with two 
extensions.

> Can you also publish the extension, please?

Publishing a release must be done by the extension author, in the 
"Releases" page.

I think it's OK to already publish the new dictionary.

As for the old dictionary, I don't know what scenario is best for users. 
Maybe it's best that you keep it unpublished until 4.0.1 is available, 
and then publish it but change the message (you are displaying a 
message, right?) into something like "A new dictionary extension is 
available. If you are using OpenOffice 4.0.1 or later you already have 
the new extension. Otherwise, you can download it from ...".

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by "Olivier R." <ol...@gmail.com>.
Le 06/09/2013 09:09, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :

> French users should test the upgrade path from OpenOffice 3.4.1 or 4.0
> when the next snapshot is available: as discussed here, the dictionary
> was replaced and not merely updated.

Thanks, Andrea.

Can you also publish the extension, please?

Regards,
Olivier

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Re: Dictionary updates for version 4.0.1

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 31/08/2013 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Please write to this list before the 6 September deadline (so, do it by
> 5 September, thanks!) if you would like to see updates to bundled
> dictionaries in OpenOffice 4.0.1.
> Dictionary updates are tracked in
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123038

All dictionary updates have been applied.

Affected languages: English, French, Italian, Spanish.

French users should test the upgrade path from OpenOffice 3.4.1 or 4.0 
when the next snapshot is available: as discussed here, the dictionary 
was replaced and not merely updated.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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