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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com> on 2012/07/25 23:12:33 UTC
[MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Mentors,
As you probably know by now, Om has written an Adobe AIR app that downloads the Apache Flex binary kit, as well as the other dependencies, and combines them into a single directory structure, similar to the one used by Adobe Flex. This is what the Flex IDEs are expecting. While this app is very handy, it is not required.
The code is now checked into https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/utilities/InstallApacheFlex which is separate from the rest of the Flex code. The code is all source, with the exception of this directory, https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/utilities/InstallApacheFlex/badge. swfobject.js, with an MPL1.1 license, and expressInstall.swf, with an Adobe license which allows redistribution, are available as downloads. I'm not sure how the swf was created but I presume with some combination of the files with the same name.
I have two questions:
1. Are we allowed to have binary code in the Apache repository?
2. Are we allowed to distribute the AIR apps (one for Windows and one for OSX) in our binaries directory (or sub-directory)?
Carol
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...If the .fla file is causing issues, I think we
> should ditch it and make it a pure AS3 app with only the visual assets
> in the .fla (look-and-feel-only binaries are apparently okay)....
In general I like this approach, if there's a way to have
resource-only binaries (as opposed to resources + code) that's a plus
in terms of people being able to validate those binaries as being
harmless.
-Bertrand
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Tomasz,
Any chance you can convert the assets into FXG? I like the idea of having
the badge coded in AS3. We might need AIR installation functionality in
the future.
Thanks,
Om
On Jul 28, 2012 2:54 AM, "Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective" <
t.maciag@fusecollective.com> wrote:
> I'm thinking since we don't use regular badge installer functionality, the
> badge itself don't have to be in flash.
> I'm not very good at HTML but I could take a shot at recreating badge in
> HTML after weekend. What do you think?
>
> Thanks
> Tomasz
>
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective <t....@fusecollective.com>.
I'm thinking since we don't use regular badge installer functionality,
the badge itself don't have to be in flash.
I'm not very good at HTML but I could take a shot at recreating badge in
HTML after weekend. What do you think?
Thanks
Tomasz
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 7/27/12 6:15 AM, "Carol Frampton" <cf...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, Alex got a tentative ok for .fla files that just contain
> assets. I know we have one .fla file left in the SDK. I'm not sure
> where/who will give us a definitive answer on this.
>
Actually, we only shipped on FLA file and that had code in it for the Flash
Integration Kit. I de-composed all Asset-only FLA files into FXG assets so
I wouldn't have to try to get them blessed by IPMC.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>.
On 7/27/12 7 :17AM, "Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective"
<t....@fusecollective.com> wrote:
>> make it a pure AS3 app with only the visual assets
>> in the .fla (look-and-feel-only binaries are apparently okay).
>If that is the case we should be fine. Right now FLA contains only
>visual assets. All code reside in AIRInstallBadge.as so if I strip it
>and rewrite essential parts we be free of Adobe license constrains.
>Anyway let me know if I should work on it.
As far as I know, Alex got a tentative ok for .fla files that just contain
assets. I know we have one .fla file left in the SDK. I'm not sure
where/who will give us a definitive answer on this.
Carol
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective <t....@fusecollective.com>.
> make it a pure AS3 app with only the visual assets
> in the .fla (look-and-feel-only binaries are apparently okay).
If that is the case we should be fine. Right now FLA contains only
visual assets. All code reside in AIRInstallBadge.as so if I strip it
and rewrite essential parts we be free of Adobe license constrains.
Anyway let me know if I should work on it.
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Tomasz,
That makes sense. If the .fla file is causing issues, I think we
should ditch it and make it a pure AS3 app with only the visual assets
in the .fla (look-and-feel-only binaries are apparently okay).
As you said, we are not using the AIR installation functionality anyways.
Thanks,
Om
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 1:31 AM, Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective
<t....@fusecollective.com> wrote:
>> AIRInstallBadge.as - this is a Adobe AIR sample program that has an Adobe
>> AIR SDK license which allows modification but I'm not sure Apache will
>> allow this license in their src
>
> If license of this file would become a problem I could rewrite it. Right now
> we don't use regular install badge functionality at all. It simply lets you
> download the right installer for your system.
> Install badge functionality is still built in there but I can easily strip
> it out since we don't need it.
>
> Thanks
> Tomasz
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Tomasz Maciąg | Fuse Collective <t....@fusecollective.com>.
> AIRInstallBadge.as - this is a Adobe AIR sample program that has an Adobe
> AIR SDK license which allows modification but I'm not sure Apache will
> allow this license in their src
If license of this file would become a problem I could rewrite it. Right
now we don't use regular install badge functionality at all. It simply
lets you download the right installer for your system.
Install badge functionality is still built in there but I can easily
strip it out since we don't need it.
Thanks
Tomasz
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>.
On 7/25/12 11 :22PM, "Greg Reddin" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>See below:
>
>Sent from my mobile device.
>
>On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> I have two questions:
>> 1. Are we allowed to have binary code in the Apache repository?
>
>Is the .swf file buildable? Is there a way to build it from source and
>include the output in the project build? Could the build of this binary
>artifact be scripted into the build of the overall project?
The directory in question is
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex/utilities/InstallApacheFlex
/badge
AIRInstallBadge.as - this is a Adobe AIR sample program that has an Adobe
AIR SDK license which allows modification but I'm not sure Apache will
allow this license in their src
AIRInstallBadge.fla - this is a input file to Adobe Flash Professional but
it is is not in a readable form - I would consider this source but I'm not
sure Apache does
AIRInstallBadge.swf - I presume this was built from some combination of
the .fla and .as files but I'm not sure how and most likely requires Flash
Professional
AIRInstallBadgeCS4.fla
expressinstall.swf - this has an Adobe license but it is downloadable and
the SDK is already doing that
index.html
snippet.txt
swfobject.js - this has a compatible license and it is downloadable and
the SDK is already doing that
Carol
>
>Also is the nature of this artifact such that it is only used for display
>purposes or is there functionality built into it? If there is not then I
>wouldn't have a problem hosing the binary artifact. If so then it's
>trickier.
>
>> 2. Are we allowed to distribute the AIR apps (one for Windows and one
>>for OSX) in our binaries directory (or sub-directory)?
>
>We'd want to release it in the same way as the release we just did. It
>would just be a different artifact. Of course we'd only release the
>source but it would not be a problem to host the convenience binary.
>
>That's my best guess anyway. Maybe it doesn't need to be a release but it
>seems like the right approach to me.
>
>Greg
>
>
>>
>> Carol
>>
Re: [MENTOR] distributing the InstallApacheFlex app
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@gmail.com>.
See below:
Sent from my mobile device.
On Jul 25, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com> wrote:
> I have two questions:
> 1. Are we allowed to have binary code in the Apache repository?
Is the .swf file buildable? Is there a way to build it from source and include the output in the project build? Could the build of this binary artifact be scripted into the build of the overall project?
Also is the nature of this artifact such that it is only used for display purposes or is there functionality built into it? If there is not then I wouldn't have a problem hosing the binary artifact. If so then it's trickier.
> 2. Are we allowed to distribute the AIR apps (one for Windows and one for OSX) in our binaries directory (or sub-directory)?
We'd want to release it in the same way as the release we just did. It would just be a different artifact. Of course we'd only release the source but it would not be a problem to host the convenience binary.
That's my best guess anyway. Maybe it doesn't need to be a release but it seems like the right approach to me.
Greg
>
> Carol
>