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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by Jeremy Boynes <je...@coredevelopers.net> on 2003/09/11 19:48:52 UTC

[vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
an ability to work with other Contributors.

I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.

[ ] +1 - I agree.
[ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
[ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
[ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......

--
Jeremy


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Hiram Chirino <hi...@coredevelopers.net>.
On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 13:48, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
> an ability to work with other Contributors.
> 
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.

[X] +1 - I agree.
[ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
[ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
[ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......

No objections here.

Regards,
Hiram

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Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jim Wright <ji...@paneris.org>.
Non-committer moral support - I understand what Aaron writes.

>[x] +1 - I agree.
>[ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
>[ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
>[ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
>
Jim Wright

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Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Aaron Bannert <aa...@clove.org>.
On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 05:32  PM, Stephen McConnell wrote:
> Aaron Bannert wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 08:52  AM, Stephen McConnell wrote:
>>
>>> As soon  as you let a PMC make decisions behind closed doors - then 
>>> your asking for trouble.  A PMC is there to handle either (a) dull, 
>>> boring, mindless administrata, or (b) nasty stuff that you really 
>>> don't want to know about.  Anything in between should be for the 
>>> community to decide and if that causes some flack - so be it.
>>
>> Again, this is incorrect and very misleading.
>
> :-)
>
> Aaron - it's only my opinion.
>
> While you may think it is wrong relative to you interpritation of the
> roles and responsibilities of a PMC, the comments are not incorrect -
> they are simply an opinion.
>
> As to misleading - that comes down to your objective.  If your 
> objective
> is community engineering within an open source project then yes, my
> observations would clearly be misleading as thay imply problems related
> to a club mentality which would naturally be counter-productive.  On 
> the
> otherhand, if your aiming for a structure within which decisions are
> transparent and function is oriented to facilitating[1] and
> representing[2] a community[3] - then perhaps you could consider the
> same observations as engaging, embrassing, even ... enabling[4].

I didn't mean for that to come out so strongly, but I don't think
it's right to portray the PMC in such a negative way. I'd prefer
that we point out what the benefits of PMC membership are, and encourage
project contributors to see membership in their project's PMC.


Here's the part I thought was misleading:

>>> A PMC is there to handle either (a) dull, boring,
>>> mindless administrata, or (b) nasty stuff that you
>>> really don't want to know about.

And here's the part I thought was incorrect (although I admit I didn't
see that it said "should be" before, so I take back what I said about
it being incorrect :)

>>> Anything in between should be for the community
>>> to decide and if that causes some flack - so be it.

Anyway, yes, now that I reread what you wrote here, I totally agree.
The community should decide all the in-between stuff. At the ASF,
however, the community that wishes to make those kinds of decisions
should aspire to join the PMC.

-aaron


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.

Aaron Bannert wrote:

>
> On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 08:52  AM, Stephen McConnell wrote:
>
>> As soon  as you let a PMC make decisions behind closed doors - then 
>> your asking for trouble.  A PMC is there to handle either (a) dull, 
>> boring, mindless administrata, or (b) nasty stuff that you really 
>> don't want to know about.  Anything in between should be for the 
>> community to decide and if that causes some flack - so be it.
>
>
> Again, this is incorrect and very misleading.


:-)

Aaron - it's only my opinion.

While you may think it is wrong relative to you interpritation of the
roles and responsibilities of a PMC, the comments are not incorrect -
they are simply an opinion.

As to misleading - that comes down to your objective.  If your objective
is community engineering within an open source project then yes, my
observations would clearly be misleading as thay imply problems related
to a club mentality which would naturally be counter-productive.  On the
otherhand, if your aiming for a structure within which decisions are
transparent and function is oriented to facilitating[1] and
representing[2] a community[3] - then perhaps you could consider the
same observations as engaging, embrassing, even ... enabling[4].

Cheers, Steve.

[1] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=facilitating
[2] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=representing
[3] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=community
[4] http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=enabling

-- 

Stephen J. McConnell
mailto:mcconnell@apache.org






Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Aaron Bannert <aa...@clove.org>.
On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 08:52  AM, Stephen McConnell wrote:

> As soon  as you let a PMC make decisions behind closed doors - then 
> your asking for trouble.  A PMC is there to handle either (a) dull, 
> boring, mindless administrata, or (b) nasty stuff that you really 
> don't want to know about.  Anything in between should be for the 
> community to decide and if that causes some flack - so be it.

Again, this is incorrect and very misleading. The PMC is *not* where all
the boring stuff gets delegated. The PMC is, however, where all serious
committers end up. If you are in the PMC, you have a say in the 
direction
of the project. You have a voice in what that project produces, what
sub-projects it spawns, the scope of the project and the mission. It
means you've earned the trust of your project peers and have ultimate
access to that project.

The PMC is not size-constrained. If you are a serious contributor to a 
project, and
you sustain that seriousness, chances are very high that you will be 
invited
into the PMC. The typical timeline is 6 months of sustained 
contributions to
gain commit access, and another 6 months of sustained contributions 
(especially
contributions that tend to help drive the project) to become a part of 
the PMC.

The only administrative part of the PMC is voting on new committers and 
new PMC members.

Also, the ASF security mailing lists are restricted to PMCers (only in 
rare cases
will a non-PMCer be invited to join).

-aaron


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.

Richard Monson-Haefel wrote:

>On 9/11/03 12:48 PM, in article
>GHEHKNNAODAPCLJONCCDEEJOCPAA.jeremy@coredevelopers.net, "Jeremy Boynes"
><je...@coredevelopers.net> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
>>numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
>>being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
>>implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
>>verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
>>an ability to work with other Contributors.
>>
>>I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>>
>>[ ] +1 - I agree.
>>[ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
>>[ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
>>[ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
>>
>>--
>>Jeremy
>>    
>>
>
>+ 0
>

I'll throw in a non-binding +1 for Aaron as a committer.  I don't know 
Aarono from Adam but I have been following the process here and to be 
frank - Aaron's iniative, the posts that I've read, and responce to-date 
- are a positive sign that Geronimo isn't a club looking for a label.

>I'll be perfectly honest: I had reservations about Aaron when he started
>posting to the mailing list. He is a smart guy and always takes the
>initiative, but I've seem him become combative in the past. He hasn't been
>that way on this project, but than again he has been working hard to obtain
>commit access and doesn't want to piss anyone off before this vote takes
>place.  I can't give him a +1 but I can't disregard his contributions to
>this project either, so a -1 is inappropriate.
>
>There. That is honest feedback on a public list. I debated doing this. The
>fact that I debated speaking my mind at all, convinced me that private
>voting in the PMC is a must. 
>

Absolutely disagree.

As soon  as you let a PMC make decisions behind closed doors - then your 
asking for trouble.  A PMC is there to handle either (a) dull, boring, 
mindless administrata, or (b) nasty stuff that you really don't want to 
know about.  Anything in between should be for the community to decide 
and if that causes some flack - so be it.

Cheers, Steve.

(who is someone who has been combative from time to time and does not 
feel obliged to appolagise for it)

;-)


>You want honesty in a public forum, then people
>are going to be hurt -- or at least offended.  I'm sorry, Aaron if this has
>offended or embarrassed you in any way. I felt compelled to be honest.
>Apparently David Blevins and others feel you deserve commit access ... I
>respect there opinions and won't object.
>
>  
>

-- 

Stephen J. McConnell
mailto:mcconnell@apache.org




Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Aaron Mulder <am...@alumni.princeton.edu>.
	While I respect Richard's opinion, and am not offended, I would
prefer in general not to see speculation such as "but than again he has
been working hard to obtain commit access and doesn't want to piss anyone
off before this vote takes place".  It's hard to either prove or disprove
the implication that one's behavior will change in the future, and I
suspect people could make their points equally well based on incidents in
the past.  Of course, one man's "combative" is another man's "doesn't see 
eye to eye", but at least we can debate real events.  :)

Aaron

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Richard Monson-Haefel wrote:
> I'll be perfectly honest: I had reservations about Aaron when he started
> posting to the mailing list. He is a smart guy and always takes the
> initiative, but I've seem him become combative in the past. He hasn't been
> that way on this project, but than again he has been working hard to obtain
> commit access and doesn't want to piss anyone off before this vote takes
> place.  I can't give him a +1 but I can't disregard his contributions to
> this project either, so a -1 is inappropriate.
> 
> There. That is honest feedback on a public list. I debated doing this. The
> fact that I debated speaking my mind at all, convinced me that private
> voting in the PMC is a must. You want honesty in a public forum, then people
> are going to be hurt -- or at least offended.  I'm sorry, Aaron if this has
> offended or embarrassed you in any way. I felt compelled to be honest.
> Apparently David Blevins and others feel you deserve commit access ... I
> respect there opinions and won't object.
> 
> 


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Richard Monson-Haefel <Ri...@Monson-Haefel.com>.
On 9/11/03 12:48 PM, in article
GHEHKNNAODAPCLJONCCDEEJOCPAA.jeremy@coredevelopers.net, "Jeremy Boynes"
<je...@coredevelopers.net> wrote:

> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
> an ability to work with other Contributors.
> 
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
> 
> [ ] +1 - I agree.
> [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
> [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
> [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
> 
> --
> Jeremy

+ 0

I'll be perfectly honest: I had reservations about Aaron when he started
posting to the mailing list. He is a smart guy and always takes the
initiative, but I've seem him become combative in the past. He hasn't been
that way on this project, but than again he has been working hard to obtain
commit access and doesn't want to piss anyone off before this vote takes
place.  I can't give him a +1 but I can't disregard his contributions to
this project either, so a -1 is inappropriate.

There. That is honest feedback on a public list. I debated doing this. The
fact that I debated speaking my mind at all, convinced me that private
voting in the PMC is a must. You want honesty in a public forum, then people
are going to be hurt -- or at least offended.  I'm sorry, Aaron if this has
offended or embarrassed you in any way. I felt compelled to be honest.
Apparently David Blevins and others feel you deserve commit access ... I
respect there opinions and won't object.

-- 
Richard Monson-Haefel
Co-Founder\Developer, Apache Geronimo
Author of:
  J2EE Web Services (AW 2003)
  Enterprise JavaBeans, 4ed (O'Reilly 2004)
  Java Message Service (O'Reilly 2000)
http://www.Monson-Haefel.com



Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jules Gosnell <ju...@coredevelopers.net>.
+1

Jeremy Boynes wrote:

>Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
>numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
>being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
>implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
>verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
>an ability to work with other Contributors.
>
>I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>
>[ ] +1 - I agree.
>[ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
>[ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
>[ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
>
>--
>Jeremy
>
>  
>


-- 
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 * Jules Gosnell
 * Partner
 * Core Developers Network (Europe)
 * http://www.coredevelopers.net
 *************************************/



Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
+1

I can't think of anyone more deserving.  Aaron shows hard work, patients and great ability to work as a team.

-David

On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 10:48:52AM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
> an ability to work with other Contributors.
> 
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
> 
> [ ] +1 - I agree.
> [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
> [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
> [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
> 
> --
> Jeremy

Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jan Bartel <ja...@mortbay.com>.
+1

Jan

Greg Wilkins wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> 
>> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
>> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were 
>> not
>> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for 
>> example,
>> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
>> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has 
>> shown
>> an ability to work with other Contributors.
>>
>> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>>
>> [X] +1 - I agree.
>> [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
>> [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
>> [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
>>
>> -- 
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
> 
> 



Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by James Strachan <ja...@yahoo.co.uk>.
+1

On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 06:24  am, Greg Wilkins wrote:

>
> +1
>
> Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
>> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that 
>> were not
>> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for 
>> example,
>> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
>> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has 
>> shown
>> an ability to work with other Contributors.
>> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>> [X] +1 - I agree.
>> [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
>> [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
>> [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
>> --
>> Jeremy
>
>
>

James
-------
http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Greg Wilkins <gr...@mortbay.com>.
+1

Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
> an ability to work with other Contributors.
> 
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
> 
> [X] +1 - I agree.
> [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
> [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
> [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
> 
> --
> Jeremy
> 
> 




Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
Agreed.  

There is a documented process on both the Jakarta and Incubator websites that states votes for commit access are to be proposed on the developer mailing list.  We have votes in progress using these rules and are obligated to follow through.

Now, should we vote in private?  Perhaps.  It's something we should talk seriously about.  Regardless, changing the rules it is a separate issue and not one fit for this mailing list.

-David

On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 07:29:23PM -0700, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> On the Incubator page for Geronimo here
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html the Roles and
> Responsibilities link points to the approach described for Jakarta here
> http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html which describes a public voting
> process.
> 
> On the Incubator Documents page
> http://incubator.apache.org/drafts/newcommitters.html it says: "If a
> developer has contributed a signicant number of high-quality patches, is
> interested in continuing the contribution, and has demonstrated the ability
> to work well with others under the Apache guidelines, a committer can
> propose a [VOTE] on the developer mailing list to grant the developer commit
> access."
> 
> The email below is actually based on one used on the struts-dev list.
> 
> This is a publicly described process and we voted to follow it. If this is
> an issue, then it is larger than Geronimo and should be discussed in a
> different forum.
> 
> As people have been "banging down the door" I think we should continue with
> the publically endorsed approach until other issues are resolved.
> 
> 
> --
> Jeremy
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aaron Bannert [mailto:aaron@clove.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:34 PM
> > To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer
> >
> >
> > I don't think it's a good idea to hold public votes on things like this.
> >
> > Normally, the PMC conducts these votes on the project pmc mailing list,
> > but since this project isn't yet out of incubation, that responsibility
> > falls to the incubator pmc. If you believe someone should gain commit
> > access to this project, feel free to bring it up to someone on the PMC
> > (or write to pmc@incubator.apache.org).
> >
> > -aaron
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 10:48  AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
> >
> > > Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> > > numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were
> > > not
> > > being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for
> > > example,
> > > implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> > > verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has
> > > shown
> > > an ability to work with other Contributors.
> > >
> > > I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 - I agree.
> > > [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
> > > [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
> > > [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeremy
> >
> >

RE: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jeremy Boynes <je...@coredevelopers.net>.
On the Incubator page for Geronimo here
http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html the Roles and
Responsibilities link points to the approach described for Jakarta here
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html which describes a public voting
process.

On the Incubator Documents page
http://incubator.apache.org/drafts/newcommitters.html it says: "If a
developer has contributed a signicant number of high-quality patches, is
interested in continuing the contribution, and has demonstrated the ability
to work well with others under the Apache guidelines, a committer can
propose a [VOTE] on the developer mailing list to grant the developer commit
access."

The email below is actually based on one used on the struts-dev list.

This is a publicly described process and we voted to follow it. If this is
an issue, then it is larger than Geronimo and should be discussed in a
different forum.

As people have been "banging down the door" I think we should continue with
the publically endorsed approach until other issues are resolved.


--
Jeremy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Bannert [mailto:aaron@clove.org]
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 6:34 PM
> To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer
>
>
> I don't think it's a good idea to hold public votes on things like this.
>
> Normally, the PMC conducts these votes on the project pmc mailing list,
> but since this project isn't yet out of incubation, that responsibility
> falls to the incubator pmc. If you believe someone should gain commit
> access to this project, feel free to bring it up to someone on the PMC
> (or write to pmc@incubator.apache.org).
>
> -aaron
>
>
> On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 10:48  AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>
> > Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> > numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were
> > not
> > being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for
> > example,
> > implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> > verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has
> > shown
> > an ability to work with other Contributors.
> >
> > I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
> >
> > [ ] +1 - I agree.
> > [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
> > [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
> > [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
> >
> > --
> > Jeremy
>
>


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Aaron Bannert <aa...@clove.org>.
I don't think it's a good idea to hold public votes on things like this.

Normally, the PMC conducts these votes on the project pmc mailing list,
but since this project isn't yet out of incubation, that responsibility
falls to the incubator pmc. If you believe someone should gain commit
access to this project, feel free to bring it up to someone on the PMC
(or write to pmc@incubator.apache.org).

-aaron


On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 10:48  AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were 
> not
> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for 
> example,
> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has 
> shown
> an ability to work with other Contributors.
>
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>
> [ ] +1 - I agree.
> [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
> [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
> [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
>
> --
> Jeremy


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@coredevelopers.net>.
On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 12:48 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were 
> not
> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for 
> example,
> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has 
> shown
> an ability to work with other Contributors.
>
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.


[X] +1 - I agree.
[ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
[ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
[ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......

Aaron has contributed a ton of code, but I have been most impressed 
with his ability to work with others.

-dain

/*************************
  * Dain Sundstrom
  * Partner
  * Core Developers Network
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Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@coredevelopers.net>.
+1

--jason


On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 12:48  AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
> numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were 
> not
> being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for 
> example,
> implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
> verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has 
> shown
> an ability to work with other Contributors.
>
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>
> [ ] +1 - I agree.
> [ ] +0 - I agree, but think we should wait until ...
> [ ] -0 - I disagree, but not enough to stop the train.
> [ ] -1 - I disagree and my reason(s) are/is ......
>
> --
> Jeremy
>


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@coredevelopers.net>.
Have we informed the incubator PMC about the new committer?

--jason


On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 03:12  AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

> Sorry, should have bean clearer - the PMC needs to do the steps to 
> grant him
> access (like verifying receipt of the CLA).
>
> --
> Jeremy
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason Dillon [mailto:jason@coredevelopers.net]
>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:52 PM
>> To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer
>>
>>
>> I'm all for it, but do not know how to begin the process.  Perhaps
>> James has some insight into that?
>>
>> --jason
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 09:51  PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>>
>>>> From: Jeremy Boynes [mailto:jeremy@coredevelopers.net]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:49 AM
>>>> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my 
>>>> +1.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Results:
>>>  +1 jboynes, dain, jdillon, bsnyder, dblevins,
>>>     chirino, gregw, janb, jules, jstrachan
>>>
>>> Please can we start the process to grant him commit access. I do not
>>> know if
>>> he has submitted a CLA yet.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>
>>
>


RE: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jeremy Boynes <je...@coredevelopers.net>.
Sorry, should have bean clearer - the PMC needs to do the steps to grant him
access (like verifying receipt of the CLA).

--
Jeremy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Dillon [mailto:jason@coredevelopers.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:52 PM
> To: geronimo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer
>
>
> I'm all for it, but do not know how to begin the process.  Perhaps
> James has some insight into that?
>
> --jason
>
>
> On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 09:51  PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:
>
> >> From: Jeremy Boynes [mailto:jeremy@coredevelopers.net]
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:49 AM
> >> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
> >>
> >
> > Results:
> >  +1 jboynes, dain, jdillon, bsnyder, dblevins,
> >     chirino, gregw, janb, jules, jstrachan
> >
> > Please can we start the process to grant him commit access. I do not
> > know if
> > he has submitted a CLA yet.
> >
> > --
> > Jeremy
> >
>
>


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@coredevelopers.net>.
I'm all for it, but do not know how to begin the process.  Perhaps 
James has some insight into that?

--jason


On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 09:51  PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote:

>> From: Jeremy Boynes [mailto:jeremy@coredevelopers.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:49 AM
>> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>>
>
> Results:
>  +1 jboynes, dain, jdillon, bsnyder, dblevins,
>     chirino, gregw, janb, jules, jstrachan
>
> Please can we start the process to grant him commit access. I do not 
> know if
> he has submitted a CLA yet.
>
> --
> Jeremy
>


RE: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jeremy Boynes <je...@coredevelopers.net>.
> From: Jeremy Boynes [mailto:jeremy@coredevelopers.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:49 AM
> I would like to nominate Aaron Mulder as a Committer and here's my +1.
>

Results:
 +1 jboynes, dain, jdillon, bsnyder, dblevins,
    chirino, gregw, janb, jules, jstrachan

Please can we start the process to grant him commit access. I do not know if
he has submitted a CLA yet.

--
Jeremy


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Jason Dillon <ja...@coredevelopers.net>.
> I remember Aaron from the Minerva days ;-). Anyone else remember that
> in JBoss land?

Rings a bell ;-)

--jason


Re: [vote] Aaron Mulder as committer

Posted by Bruce Snyder <fe...@frii.com>.
This one time, at band camp, Jeremy Boynes said:

JB>Aaron has been involved in Geronimo since its launch and has submitted
JB>numerous patches. He has shown initiative in taking on areas that were not
JB>being developed and that were likely to be needed imminently; for example,
JB>implementation of JSR88 functionality, a command line deployer and EJB
JB>verifier. He has actively participated in design discussions and has shown
JB>an ability to work with other Contributors.

+1

I remember Aaron from the Minerva days ;-). Anyone else remember that
in JBoss land?

Bruce
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