Re: Q about removing default partition/ in-memory partitions etc

[Harakiri <ha...@yahoo.com>]

So i guess after a few days without any answer i
figured out that people put enough work into working
out an april 1 fool joke but hesitate to answer any
real questions concerning apacheds.

Well, nice community


--- Harakiri <ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> first off thanks for a great and sophisticated open
> source directory server =)
> 
> I do have a few questions regarding the API and how
> to
> achieve certain things.
> 
> Im working without a server.xml and have followed
> the
> example of embedding apache ds into a web app.
> 
> 1. Is it possible to start apache-ds without the
> default partition ? Progamatically..
> 
> 2. Is there already a MutablePartition configuration
> or similar which does not save any data to disk ? I
> want everything which is normally stored under the
> partition dir to be only created in memory (schema
> etc) because the server itself does not contain any
> data but queries other services for data and acts as
> a
> pass through.
> 
> 3. I have - after much code digging in the server
> code
> - been able to create my own Interceptor to modify
> search results (figuring out how to create your own
> namingenumeration and searchresult was a real pain
> since they are interfaces). I know that since 1.5.x
> triggers are available - i did not really figure out
> the difference here. When should you use a trigger -
> and when an interceptor ? Triggers are implemented
> as
> specific interceptors afaik. Even tho in the svn is
> a
> sample class - im not sure how to use it - how to
> add
> it to your partition configuration etc...
> 
> 4. The order of interceptors is not quiet clear to
> me,
> i added an interceptor to the default interceptor
> list
> - but calling next.search(..) never returned any
> value
> it seems - the query to the local partition must
> have
> been done after my interceptor - so i moved the
> interceptor to the beginning - and indeed
> next.search
> returned some data to modify. I thought that the
> retrievale of data would be handled by another
> process
> and not by a default interceptor ?
> 
> 5. How do you connect your apache to a different
> external backend? Is Interceptors the only way or
> are
> their some build in backend connectors ? I.e. the
> simplest custom backend would be that apache ds
> receives an ldap query - and the custom backend
> logic
> from apache ds would translate this into SQL queries
> like select * from user where user=ldapquery or
> something like that. Currently i would do that with
> an
> interceptor.
> 
> 
> Thank you very much
> 
> 
>      
>
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Re: Q about removing default partition/ in-memory partitions etc

[Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>]

<chair hat on>
Ok, apologizes if you get some bad answer to your pretty aggressive
mail. We are human beings, and we react easily,  especially when under
heavy pressure (Apache conference preparation, 2 releases going on
this week, plus personnal issues).

That being said, posting a question does not mean you will get an
answer. Remember this is a volunteer effort, and people do have a day
job too. If your fist mail is not answered, post it again. If it's not
answered again, then ask yourself : "was my question precise enough?
Was it too wide to be answered in a few lines ? Was it a silly
question?" . Then post it a third time, mentionning that the first two
times, it was not answered. Sometime, it may take a week to get
someone available.

This is the way it works, take it or leave it ...

Any kind of acid remark about the fact people take some time to do
something different than what you are focusing on will just be seen as
rude.

Now you can think whatever you want about this community, it may be
not the best ever, but at least, it was able to deliver a server and
some GUI for years before you posted your first mail. This is all what
we try to do : deliver the best possible LDAP server.
</chair hat on>

PS : May I suggest you to change your mail and pseudo, because I'm
afraid that your future mails - if any - will simply be ignored. We
don't know you, you are using a pseudo, so it's all good : fake you
are someone else, and may be your questions may be answered (just wait
a little while and change the content, that's it :)

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Harakiri <ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I dont have a bad day, but seriously - this isnt the
>  first time, on the dev list i never received a reply
>  either on a similar question.
>
>  I dont expect anyone to answer but my questions were
>  pretty simple and seeing that the devs have time
>  enough to fool around makes you thinking what kind of
>  community you would expect here - None - only the devs
>  by themselfs enjoying each other.
>
>  If you think thats the right direction, more power to
>  you.
>
>
>
>
>  --- Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > Harakiri wrote:
>  > > So i guess after a few days without any answer i
>  > > figured out that people put enough work into
>  > working
>  > > out an april 1 fool joke but hesitate to answer
>  > any
>  > > real questions concerning apacheds.
>  > >
>  > You guessed well !
>  > > Well, nice community
>  > >
>  > We have humor. Others don't.
>  >
>  > That's sweet, you almost made my day playing the
>  > Villain :) Have fun
>  > with OpenDS, buddy !
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > --
>  > cordialement, regards,
>  > Emmanuel Lécharny
>  > www.iktek.com
>  > directory.apache.org
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
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>



-- 
Regards,
Cordialement,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com

Re: Q about removing default partition/ in-memory partitions etc

[Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>]

Check out my "Where do babies come from thread?", you'll really like that
one.

Alex

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Harakiri <ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I dont have a bad day, but seriously - this isnt the
> first time, on the dev list i never received a reply
> either on a similar question.
>
> I dont expect anyone to answer but my questions were
> pretty simple and seeing that the devs have time
> enough to fool around makes you thinking what kind of
> community you would expect here - None - only the devs
> by themselfs enjoying each other.
>
> If you think thats the right direction, more power to
> you.
>
>
> --- Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Harakiri wrote:
> > > So i guess after a few days without any answer i
> > > figured out that people put enough work into
> > working
> > > out an april 1 fool joke but hesitate to answer
> > any
> > > real questions concerning apacheds.
> > >
> > You guessed well !
> > > Well, nice community
> > >
> > We have humor. Others don't.
> >
> > That's sweet, you almost made my day playing the
> > Villain :) Have fun
> > with OpenDS, buddy !
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > cordialement, regards,
> > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > www.iktek.com
> > directory.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>  ____________________________________________________________________________________
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> Total Access, No Cost.
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>

Re: Q about removing default partition/ in-memory partitions etc

[Harakiri <ha...@yahoo.com>]

I dont have a bad day, but seriously - this isnt the
first time, on the dev list i never received a reply
either on a similar question.

I dont expect anyone to answer but my questions were
pretty simple and seeing that the devs have time
enough to fool around makes you thinking what kind of
community you would expect here - None - only the devs
by themselfs enjoying each other.

If you think thats the right direction, more power to
you.


--- Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Harakiri wrote:
> > So i guess after a few days without any answer i
> > figured out that people put enough work into
> working
> > out an april 1 fool joke but hesitate to answer
> any
> > real questions concerning apacheds.
> >   
> You guessed well !
> > Well, nice community
> >   
> We have humor. Others don't.
> 
> That's sweet, you almost made my day playing the
> Villain :) Have fun 
> with OpenDS, buddy !
> 
> 
> -- 
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Q about removing default partition/ in-memory partitions etc

[Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>]

Harakiri wrote:
> So i guess after a few days without any answer i
> figured out that people put enough work into working
> out an april 1 fool joke but hesitate to answer any
> real questions concerning apacheds.
>   
You guessed well !
> Well, nice community
>   
We have humor. Others don't.

That's sweet, you almost made my day playing the Villain :) Have fun 
with OpenDS, buddy !


-- 
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org

Re: Q about removing default partition/ in-memory partitions etc

[Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>]

"Aaawwwe someone's having a bad day.  Quick!  Give him a puppy."

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Harakiri <ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> So i guess after a few days without any answer i
> figured out that people put enough work into working
> out an april 1 fool joke but hesitate to answer any
> real questions concerning apacheds.
>
> Well, nice community
>
>
> --- Harakiri <ha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > first off thanks for a great and sophisticated open
> > source directory server =)
> >
> > I do have a few questions regarding the API and how
> > to
> > achieve certain things.
> >
> > Im working without a server.xml and have followed
> > the
> > example of embedding apache ds into a web app.
> >
> > 1. Is it possible to start apache-ds without the
> > default partition ? Progamatically..
> >
> > 2. Is there already a MutablePartition configuration
> > or similar which does not save any data to disk ? I
> > want everything which is normally stored under the
> > partition dir to be only created in memory (schema
> > etc) because the server itself does not contain any
> > data but queries other services for data and acts as
> > a
> > pass through.
> >
> > 3. I have - after much code digging in the server
> > code
> > - been able to create my own Interceptor to modify
> > search results (figuring out how to create your own
> > namingenumeration and searchresult was a real pain
> > since they are interfaces). I know that since 1.5.x
> > triggers are available - i did not really figure out
> > the difference here. When should you use a trigger -
> > and when an interceptor ? Triggers are implemented
> > as
> > specific interceptors afaik. Even tho in the svn is
> > a
> > sample class - im not sure how to use it - how to
> > add
> > it to your partition configuration etc...
> >
> > 4. The order of interceptors is not quiet clear to
> > me,
> > i added an interceptor to the default interceptor
> > list
> > - but calling next.search(..) never returned any
> > value
> > it seems - the query to the local partition must
> > have
> > been done after my interceptor - so i moved the
> > interceptor to the beginning - and indeed
> > next.search
> > returned some data to modify. I thought that the
> > retrievale of data would be handled by another
> > process
> > and not by a default interceptor ?
> >
> > 5. How do you connect your apache to a different
> > external backend? Is Interceptors the only way or
> > are
> > their some build in backend connectors ? I.e. the
> > simplest custom backend would be that apache ds
> > receives an ldap query - and the custom backend
> > logic
> > from apache ds would translate this into SQL queries
> > like select * from user where user=ldapquery or
> > something like that. Currently i would do that with
> > an
> > interceptor.
> >
> >
> > Thank you very much
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ____________________________________________________________________________________
> > OMG, Sweet deal for Yahoo! users/friends:Get A Month
> > of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. W00t
> > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text2.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>  ____________________________________________________________________________________
> You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster
> Total Access, No Cost.
> http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
>