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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com> on 2004/08/23 19:22:33 UTC
JSR 170
I need to support basic retrieval (and I suppose possibly update) from
content management systems into web pages. It looks like JSR 170 is the
obvious way to implement this. As of yet, I don't see anything in Cocoon
to support this.
I'm just getting started in looking at various content management systems.
Most look like they want to do all the presentation. I want to use Cocoon
for that only only retrieve content items, and possibly the Cocoon message
catalogs from the CMS. Am I going in the right direction with that?
Ralph
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Re: JSR 170
Posted by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com>.
At 8/28/2004 07:14 AM, you wrote:
>Some might say that what you want is a Content Repository and not a CMS.
>Anyway, I just started looking at the JCR Reference Implementation that is
>in Slide's CVS and thinking about integrating it with Cocoon, but I cannot
>yet make up my mind as to what kinds of components would be useful to
>have. Do you have any suggestions?
I would imagine this would be very similar to the webdav block except it
wouldn't use webdav. I envision a source resolver to get content directly
out of the cms from the sitemap and a transformer to integrate cms content
on a page in a manner similar to the i18n transformer. It might also be
useful to have a way to get the content from Velocity and JXTemplates,
although the templates could just insert tags that are resolved by the
transformer.
>You should also consider that at the moment there are no content
>repositories offering a JSR-170 compliant interface, AFAIK.
Yeah. I noticed that. I am going to end up writing my own JSR-170
interface to something else (we haven't made a final decision on the
"somthing else" yet.
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Re: JSR 170
Posted by Ugo Cei <ug...@apache.org>.
Il giorno 24/ago/04, alle 16:59, Ralph Goers ha scritto:
> Sorry I'm just venting now. Most, if not all, the content management
> systems I am looking at seem to want to "own" the website. I want a
> content management system that just manages content, not the website.
Some might say that what you want is a Content Repository and not a
CMS. Anyway, I just started looking at the JCR Reference Implementation
that is in Slide's CVS and thinking about integrating it with Cocoon,
but I cannot yet make up my mind as to what kinds of components would
be useful to have. Do you have any suggestions?
You should also consider that at the moment there are no content
repositories offering a JSR-170 compliant interface, AFAIK.
Ugo
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Re: JSR 170
Posted by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Sorry I'm just venting now. Most, if not all, the content management
systems I am looking at seem to want to "own" the website. I want a
content management system that just manages content, not the website.
Ralph
Ralph Goers said:
> In the ideal case, I'd like our customers to be able to plug in any
> content management system of their choosing. However, it seems JSR 170
> only addresses a subset of what most content management systems seem to
> do. I'd like to use Cocoon components that use the JSR 170 APIs so that
> at least that portion can be pluggable.
>
> Ralph
>
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Re: JSR 170
Posted by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com>.
In the ideal case, I'd like our customers to be able to plug in any
content management system of their choosing. However, it seems JSR 170
only addresses a subset of what most content management systems seem to
do. I'd like to use Cocoon components that use the JSR 170 APIs so that
at least that portion can be pluggable.
Ralph
Andreas Hartmann said:
> Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> I need to support basic retrieval (and I suppose possibly update) from
>> content management systems into web pages. It looks like JSR 170 is the
>> obvious way to implement this. As of yet, I don't see anything in
>> Cocoon
>> to support this.
>>
>> I'm just getting started in looking at various content management
>> systems.
>> Most look like they want to do all the presentation. I want to use
>> Cocoon
>> for that only only retrieve content items, and possibly the Cocoon
>> message
>> catalogs from the CMS. Am I going in the right direction with that?
>
> It is planned to base Lenya 1.4 on a repository layer (JSR 170 / Slide).
>
> I'm not sure if your requirements are met by Lenya, but it is basically
> possible to use arbitrary Cocoon pipelines for the presentation layer.
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
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Re: JSR 170
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Ralph Goers wrote:
> I need to support basic retrieval (and I suppose possibly update) from
> content management systems into web pages. It looks like JSR 170 is the
> obvious way to implement this. As of yet, I don't see anything in Cocoon
> to support this.
>
> I'm just getting started in looking at various content management systems.
> Most look like they want to do all the presentation. I want to use Cocoon
> for that only only retrieve content items, and possibly the Cocoon message
> catalogs from the CMS. Am I going in the right direction with that?
It is planned to base Lenya 1.4 on a repository layer (JSR 170 / Slide).
I'm not sure if your requirements are met by Lenya, but it is basically
possible to use arbitrary Cocoon pipelines for the presentation layer.
-- Andreas
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