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Posted to dev@kibble.apache.org by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> on 2018/09/05 08:53:41 UTC
Draft Message to Kibble Demo Projects
Hi All
See below for my initial draft for a message to go out to the list of pilot projects that are part of the Kibble demo instance. I plan to send it to the PMCs with reply-to set as this list.
Please take a look and let me have any feedback, changes or suggestions for improvement.
I know people are focussed on ApacheCon at the moment so I'll try lazy consensus for this request :-)
Thanks
Sharan
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Feedback Requested from Kibble Demo Projects
Hi All
Thanks very much for being one of the projects that is part of the Kibble demo instance. We hope that you are making use of the information Kibble shows about your project. We have had our demo instance up and running for most of this year so now we'd like to get some feedback from you about how you are using Kibble.
Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
- How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
- Is the information Kibble gives you useful?
- Is there any information that you would like to see that isn’t currently there?
- Do you have any problems using Kibble?
Even if you are not using Kibble then it would be good to understand why (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it isn’t clear etc)
If you have any other feedback about Kibble then we’d be happy to hear it so that we can work on improving it for the future.
Re: Draft Message to Kibble Demo Projects
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 09/07/2018 12:54 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've updated the message based on Georg's suggestions and (pending any other feedback :-) will plan to send it out to the project PMCs once the 72 lazy consensus timeframe ends.
Even though you said lazy consensus, +1 ;)
Depending on the level of feedback we get (it could be much, it could be
crickets), we may wanna explore expanding the number of projects we keep
track of by reaching out to PMCs again. I know for a fact that there are
both people who make use of it for project/community reports, and
recipients of said reports, who greatly value the extra insight.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
> On 2018/09/05 13:31:50, Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu> wrote:
>> Happy to help and looking forward to the replies.
>>
>> Georg
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Georg
>>>
>>> Welcome! :-)
>>>
>>> I've included some comments inline.
>>>
>>> On 2018/09/05 12:04:50, Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu> wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>>
>>>> Allow me to introduce myself because this is my first post to the Kibble
>>>> dev mailing list. I am Georg Link and co-founder of the CHAOSS project. I
>>>> followed Sharan's invite to join this mailing list due to potential
>>>> crossover interests.
>>>>
>>>> Sharan, thanks for preparing the questions. I am interested in the
>>> replies.
>>>> Below a few thoughts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> - How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good question. No comment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Is the information Kibble gives you useful?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I propose an alternative open-ended question that links the information
>>>> directly to decision making:
>>>> How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in other
>>>> ways?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I like your question better. :-) Mine was a simple yes/no, your suggestion
>>> opens it up a little to get more information. I will update the question.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - Is there any information that you would like to see that isn’t
>>> currently
>>>>> there?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In CHAOSS, we take the perspective, that we seek information to answer
>>>> questions, not for the sake of information. An alternative open-ended
>>>> question could be:
>>>> What questions about your community can you currently not answer and what
>>>> information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Interesting point, and once again I like your suggestions better. I will
>>> update the question.
>>>>
>>>>> - Do you have any problems using Kibble?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alternative, open-ended question:
>>>> What problems do you have with using Kibble?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> A simple change to the question that aims to get more details. I will
>>> update the question.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much Georg for the feedback and suggestions.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if you are not using Kibble then it would be good to understand
>>> why
>>>>> (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it isn’t clear etc)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any other feedback about Kibble then we’d be happy to hear
>>> it
>>>>> so that we can work on improving it for the future.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Georg
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Georg J.P. Link
>>>> PhD Student
>>>> College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
>>>> University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Georg J.P. Link
>> PhD Student
>> College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
>> University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
>>
Re: Draft Message to Kibble Demo Projects
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi All
I've updated the message based on Georg's suggestions and (pending any other feedback :-) will plan to send it out to the project PMCs once the 72 lazy consensus timeframe ends.
Thanks
Sharan
On 2018/09/05 13:31:50, Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu> wrote:
> Happy to help and looking forward to the replies.
>
> Georg
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi Georg
> >
> > Welcome! :-)
> >
> > I've included some comments inline.
> >
> > On 2018/09/05 12:04:50, Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu> wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > Hi Sharan,
> > >
> > > Allow me to introduce myself because this is my first post to the Kibble
> > > dev mailing list. I am Georg Link and co-founder of the CHAOSS project. I
> > > followed Sharan's invite to join this mailing list due to potential
> > > crossover interests.
> > >
> > > Sharan, thanks for preparing the questions. I am interested in the
> > replies.
> > > Below a few thoughts.
> > >
> > >
> > > Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
> > > >
> > > > - How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Good question. No comment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > - Is the information Kibble gives you useful?
> > > >
> > >
> > > I propose an alternative open-ended question that links the information
> > > directly to decision making:
> > > How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in other
> > > ways?
> > >
> >
> > I like your question better. :-) Mine was a simple yes/no, your suggestion
> > opens it up a little to get more information. I will update the question.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > - Is there any information that you would like to see that isn’t
> > currently
> > > > there?
> > > >
> > >
> > > In CHAOSS, we take the perspective, that we seek information to answer
> > > questions, not for the sake of information. An alternative open-ended
> > > question could be:
> > > What questions about your community can you currently not answer and what
> > > information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Interesting point, and once again I like your suggestions better. I will
> > update the question.
> > >
> > > > - Do you have any problems using Kibble?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Alternative, open-ended question:
> > > What problems do you have with using Kibble?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > A simple change to the question that aims to get more details. I will
> > update the question.
> >
> > Thanks very much Georg for the feedback and suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Even if you are not using Kibble then it would be good to understand
> > why
> > > > (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it isn’t clear etc)
> > > >
> > > > If you have any other feedback about Kibble then we’d be happy to hear
> > it
> > > > so that we can work on improving it for the future.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Georg
> > >
> > > --
> > > Georg J.P. Link
> > > PhD Student
> > > College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
> > > University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Georg J.P. Link
> PhD Student
> College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
> University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
>
Re: Draft Message to Kibble Demo Projects
Posted by Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu>.
Happy to help and looking forward to the replies.
Georg
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Georg
>
> Welcome! :-)
>
> I've included some comments inline.
>
> On 2018/09/05 12:04:50, Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > Hi Sharan,
> >
> > Allow me to introduce myself because this is my first post to the Kibble
> > dev mailing list. I am Georg Link and co-founder of the CHAOSS project. I
> > followed Sharan's invite to join this mailing list due to potential
> > crossover interests.
> >
> > Sharan, thanks for preparing the questions. I am interested in the
> replies.
> > Below a few thoughts.
> >
> >
> > Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
> > >
> > > - How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
> > >
> >
> > Good question. No comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > > - Is the information Kibble gives you useful?
> > >
> >
> > I propose an alternative open-ended question that links the information
> > directly to decision making:
> > How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in other
> > ways?
> >
>
> I like your question better. :-) Mine was a simple yes/no, your suggestion
> opens it up a little to get more information. I will update the question.
>
> >
> >
> > > - Is there any information that you would like to see that isn’t
> currently
> > > there?
> > >
> >
> > In CHAOSS, we take the perspective, that we seek information to answer
> > questions, not for the sake of information. An alternative open-ended
> > question could be:
> > What questions about your community can you currently not answer and what
> > information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?
> >
> >
>
> Interesting point, and once again I like your suggestions better. I will
> update the question.
> >
> > > - Do you have any problems using Kibble?
> > >
> >
> > Alternative, open-ended question:
> > What problems do you have with using Kibble?
> >
> >
>
> A simple change to the question that aims to get more details. I will
> update the question.
>
> Thanks very much Georg for the feedback and suggestions.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> >
> > >
> > > Even if you are not using Kibble then it would be good to understand
> why
> > > (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it isn’t clear etc)
> > >
> > > If you have any other feedback about Kibble then we’d be happy to hear
> it
> > > so that we can work on improving it for the future.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Georg
> >
> > --
> > Georg J.P. Link
> > PhD Student
> > College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
> > University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
> >
>
--
Georg J.P. Link
PhD Student
College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
Re: Draft Message to Kibble Demo Projects
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Georg
Welcome! :-)
I've included some comments inline.
On 2018/09/05 12:04:50, Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> Hi Sharan,
>
> Allow me to introduce myself because this is my first post to the Kibble
> dev mailing list. I am Georg Link and co-founder of the CHAOSS project. I
> followed Sharan's invite to join this mailing list due to potential
> crossover interests.
>
> Sharan, thanks for preparing the questions. I am interested in the replies.
> Below a few thoughts.
>
>
> Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
> >
> > - How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
> >
>
> Good question. No comment.
>
>
>
> > - Is the information Kibble gives you useful?
> >
>
> I propose an alternative open-ended question that links the information
> directly to decision making:
> How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in other
> ways?
>
I like your question better. :-) Mine was a simple yes/no, your suggestion opens it up a little to get more information. I will update the question.
>
>
> > - Is there any information that you would like to see that isn’t currently
> > there?
> >
>
> In CHAOSS, we take the perspective, that we seek information to answer
> questions, not for the sake of information. An alternative open-ended
> question could be:
> What questions about your community can you currently not answer and what
> information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?
>
>
Interesting point, and once again I like your suggestions better. I will update the question.
>
> > - Do you have any problems using Kibble?
> >
>
> Alternative, open-ended question:
> What problems do you have with using Kibble?
>
>
A simple change to the question that aims to get more details. I will update the question.
Thanks very much Georg for the feedback and suggestions.
Thanks
Sharan
>
> >
> > Even if you are not using Kibble then it would be good to understand why
> > (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it isn’t clear etc)
> >
> > If you have any other feedback about Kibble then we’d be happy to hear it
> > so that we can work on improving it for the future.
> >
>
>
> Best,
> Georg
>
> --
> Georg J.P. Link
> PhD Student
> College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
> University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu
>
Re: Draft Message to Kibble Demo Projects
Posted by Georg Link <gl...@unomaha.edu>.
Hi everyone,
Hi Sharan,
Allow me to introduce myself because this is my first post to the Kibble
dev mailing list. I am Georg Link and co-founder of the CHAOSS project. I
followed Sharan's invite to join this mailing list due to potential
crossover interests.
Sharan, thanks for preparing the questions. I am interested in the replies.
Below a few thoughts.
Some example questions that we’d be interested in are as follows:
>
> - How often are you using Kibble and what are you using it for?
>
Good question. No comment.
> - Is the information Kibble gives you useful?
>
I propose an alternative open-ended question that links the information
directly to decision making:
How does information from Kibble inform decisions or is useful in other
ways?
> - Is there any information that you would like to see that isn’t currently
> there?
>
In CHAOSS, we take the perspective, that we seek information to answer
questions, not for the sake of information. An alternative open-ended
question could be:
What questions about your community can you currently not answer and what
information could Kibble provide to help answer these questions?
> - Do you have any problems using Kibble?
>
Alternative, open-ended question:
What problems do you have with using Kibble?
>
> Even if you are not using Kibble then it would be good to understand why
> (e.g perhaps the documentation for using it isn’t clear etc)
>
> If you have any other feedback about Kibble then we’d be happy to hear it
> so that we can work on improving it for the future.
>
Best,
Georg
--
Georg J.P. Link
PhD Student
College of Information Science and Technology | PKI 367
University of Nebraska at Omaha | www.unomaha.edu