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Posted to dev@continuum.apache.org by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> on 2009/02/24 05:25:10 UTC
What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Any thoughts on what else needs to go into Continuum 1.3, before we call it GA?
Marica started this thread on additional work on Distributed Build,
which I assume needs to be finished.
http://www.nabble.com/Missing-Functionalities-in-Distributed-Builds-td21697552.html
A few other things we've talked about...
- enabling parallel builds on each distributed agent
- improving the upgrade process (using Liquibase?)
- introducing a plugin mechanism
... are those things anyone has in progress or is planning to work on
in the near future?
The roadmap is here if you want to make updates:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUM/Continuum+1.3+Roadmap
--
Wendy
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Some active JIRA management is really needed - we have 11 for 1.3.2, 63 for
> 1.3.x (how many are really candidates for a GA release?) and 120 that
> haven't even been reviewed :(
I gave up and shifted everything from 1.3.x and 1.x into Future.
There's just too much that's been sitting there for months to go
through it issue by issue right now. Feel free to pull things you
plan to work on into 1.4.x, but I'd like to avoid it becoming a long
wish list like 1.3.x did. :)
There are still ~100 issues that need to be reviewed.
I've also moved a couple that were scheduled for 1.3.3 out to 1.4.0.
Both of them were upgrading minor versions of significant
dependencies-- Maven 2.0 to 2.1, and Maven SCM 1.1 to 1.2.
At this point 1.3.x should only get minor changes and documentation,
so we can label it GA and wrap up that branch. I'm hoping 1.3.3 will
be the one!
One remaining task is to figure out where we are on the 1.2.x -> 1.3.x
upgrade process. My test is whether vmbuild can be upgraded smoothly.
(The first 1.4.x release can happen any time, it doesn't have to wait
for 1.3 to go GA.)
--
Wendy
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
2009/3/31 José Morales Martínez <jm...@gmv.com>:
> Currently there are many issues open which have attached a patch. I think, we should first apply them and then create the branch. It should reduce the merges number to do.
We have to stop somewhere. :) The branch is done, and 1.4.x work can
continue on trunk -- we don't actually have to merge everything back
to the 1.3.x branch, we can do 1.4.0 any time. I'm not looking for
1.3.x to be perfect, just to stabilize with minor fixes and no more
new features added.
--
Wendy
RE: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by José Morales Martínez <jm...@gmv.com>.
Currently there are many issues open which have attached a patch. I think, we should first apply them and then create the branch. It should reduce the merges number to do.
> I'm interested in documentation and in easing the upgrade process from
> 1.2.x to 1.3.x. Is the export-and-import process still necessary or
> has that been improved?
I think export-and-import should can work with MySQL for 1.3 GA
-----------------------
Jose
-----Original Message-----
From: Brett Porter [mailto:brett@apache.org]
Sent: mié 01/04/2009 3:03
To: dev@continuum.apache.org
Subject: Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Last I saw was Emmanuel's "ok for me". I think lazy consensus applies
- branch now so that trunk is still open for people to start working
towards 1.4.0. If anything desperately needs to be merged, that can
happen, but I trust people will be judicious about it :)
- Brett
On 01/04/2009, at 11:55 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it's done. :) What do you think of branching 1.3.x after the
>> 1.3.2 release, finishing the docs and doing only minor bug fixes on
>> the way to a GA release?
>
> Any further thoughts on this? I still see new features going into
> trunk, which means we'll probably need another Beta before we can get
> a GA release out of the 1.3.x line.
>
> Should we branch at this point? How much more do you think needs to
> go into 1.3?
>
> I'm interested in documentation and in easing the upgrade process from
> 1.2.x to 1.3.x. Is the export-and-import process still necessary or
> has that been improved?
>
> --
> Wendy
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Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Last I saw was Emmanuel's "ok for me". I think lazy consensus applies
- branch now so that trunk is still open for people to start working
towards 1.4.0. If anything desperately needs to be merged, that can
happen, but I trust people will be judicious about it :)
- Brett
On 01/04/2009, at 11:55 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it's done. :) What do you think of branching 1.3.x after the
>> 1.3.2 release, finishing the docs and doing only minor bug fixes on
>> the way to a GA release?
>
> Any further thoughts on this? I still see new features going into
> trunk, which means we'll probably need another Beta before we can get
> a GA release out of the 1.3.x line.
>
> Should we branch at this point? How much more do you think needs to
> go into 1.3?
>
> I'm interested in documentation and in easing the upgrade process from
> 1.2.x to 1.3.x. Is the export-and-import process still necessary or
> has that been improved?
>
> --
> Wendy
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it's done. :) What do you think of branching 1.3.x after the
> 1.3.2 release, finishing the docs and doing only minor bug fixes on
> the way to a GA release?
Any further thoughts on this? I still see new features going into
trunk, which means we'll probably need another Beta before we can get
a GA release out of the 1.3.x line.
Should we branch at this point? How much more do you think needs to
go into 1.3?
I'm interested in documentation and in easing the upgrade process from
1.2.x to 1.3.x. Is the export-and-import process still necessary or
has that been improved?
--
Wendy
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
ok for me.
Emmanuel
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was not planning on a full 1.2.4 release. Have there been enough
> changes that we need one?
>
> We do need another release (1.2.3.2?) of the Data Management modules
> though, and that's listed on the 1.3 roadmap page.
>
> I'm not sure whether the fix for CONTINUUM-2100 will be in 1.2.x or
> 1.3.x, but I was having trouble importing data that includes
> installations. Until that works I don't consider it GA quality-- my
> test is being able to upgrade vmbuild.a.o.
>
> I assume we'll stay with the current Data Management for 1.3.x, but I
> have the Liquibase tool you mentioned listed on the 1.4 roadmap along
> with Edwin's automatic discovery of modules.
>
> Does that sound okay?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wendy
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Emmanuel Venisse
> <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What about 1.2.4? Do you plan to release it in next days/weeks?
> > Emmanuel
>
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
I was not planning on a full 1.2.4 release. Have there been enough
changes that we need one?
We do need another release (1.2.3.2?) of the Data Management modules
though, and that's listed on the 1.3 roadmap page.
I'm not sure whether the fix for CONTINUUM-2100 will be in 1.2.x or
1.3.x, but I was having trouble importing data that includes
installations. Until that works I don't consider it GA quality-- my
test is being able to upgrade vmbuild.a.o.
I assume we'll stay with the current Data Management for 1.3.x, but I
have the Liquibase tool you mentioned listed on the 1.4 roadmap along
with Edwin's automatic discovery of modules.
Does that sound okay?
Thanks,
--
Wendy
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Emmanuel Venisse
<em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about 1.2.4? Do you plan to release it in next days/weeks?
> Emmanuel
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Emmanuel Venisse <em...@gmail.com>.
What about 1.2.4? Do you plan to release it in next days/weeks?
Emmanuel
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From there we need to decide how much more is really going into 1.3.
> > I'll shift some issues around and see how it looks. If I move
> > something that you're personally working on or that you feel strongly
> > needs to go into 1.3, feel free to yell and move it back, or rearrange
> > JIRA as necessary. :)
>
> With 1.3.2 coming out soon, the next item on the agenda is to agree on
> what else is going into the 1.3.x line.
>
> The 1.3.x series added Parallel and Distributed builds with agent
> groups, which was huge. There were also some other major changes like
> splitting the build up to handle transient state changes when the scm
> system is down.
>
> Is there anything else that someone feels strongly needs to go into 1.3?
>
> I think it's done. :) What do you think of branching 1.3.x after the
> 1.3.2 release, finishing the docs and doing only minor bug fixes on
> the way to a GA release?
>
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUM/Continuum+1.3+Roadmap
>
> Edwin, I shifted 'automatic discovery of modules' to the 1.4 roadmap.
> Is that okay with you?
>
> --
> Wendy
>
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> From there we need to decide how much more is really going into 1.3.
> I'll shift some issues around and see how it looks. If I move
> something that you're personally working on or that you feel strongly
> needs to go into 1.3, feel free to yell and move it back, or rearrange
> JIRA as necessary. :)
With 1.3.2 coming out soon, the next item on the agenda is to agree on
what else is going into the 1.3.x line.
The 1.3.x series added Parallel and Distributed builds with agent
groups, which was huge. There were also some other major changes like
splitting the build up to handle transient state changes when the scm
system is down.
Is there anything else that someone feels strongly needs to go into 1.3?
I think it's done. :) What do you think of branching 1.3.x after the
1.3.2 release, finishing the docs and doing only minor bug fixes on
the way to a GA release?
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUM/Continuum+1.3+Roadmap
Edwin, I shifted 'automatic discovery of modules' to the 1.4 roadmap.
Is that okay with you?
--
Wendy
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> From a big priorities point of view, I agree. A plugin mechanism (more than
> what we have now) really sounds like a 2.0 type thing to me since it will
> touch the whole system.
>
> I think getting another release out is important - keeping the objectives
> simple is good.
>
> Some active JIRA management is really needed - we have 11 for 1.3.2, 63 for
> 1.3.x (how many are really candidates for a GA release?) and 120 that
> haven't even been reviewed :(
Definitely. I made a small dent in it recently, but it's slow going.
Since this thread has been fairly quiet, I'm going to pare down the
list for 1.3.2 to the things I can tell from dev list discussion are
actively being worked on and see about getting that one closed out.
>From there we need to decide how much more is really going into 1.3.
I'll shift some issues around and see how it looks. If I move
something that you're personally working on or that you feel strongly
needs to go into 1.3, feel free to yell and move it back, or rearrange
JIRA as necessary. :)
--
Wendy
Re: What else for a Continuum 1.3 GA release?
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
From a big priorities point of view, I agree. A plugin mechanism
(more than what we have now) really sounds like a 2.0 type thing to me
since it will touch the whole system.
I think getting another release out is important - keeping the
objectives simple is good.
Some active JIRA management is really needed - we have 11 for 1.3.2,
63 for 1.3.x (how many are really candidates for a GA release?) and
120 that haven't even been reviewed :(
Cheers,
Brett
On 24/02/2009, at 3:25 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote:
> Any thoughts on what else needs to go into Continuum 1.3, before we
> call it GA?
>
> Marica started this thread on additional work on Distributed Build,
> which I assume needs to be finished.
> http://www.nabble.com/Missing-Functionalities-in-Distributed-Builds-td21697552.html
>
> A few other things we've talked about...
> - enabling parallel builds on each distributed agent
> - improving the upgrade process (using Liquibase?)
> - introducing a plugin mechanism
> ... are those things anyone has in progress or is planning to work on
> in the near future?
>
> The roadmap is here if you want to make updates:
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CONTINUUM/Continuum+1.3+Roadmap
>
> --
> Wendy
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/