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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by Josh Proctor <jo...@lat-inc.net> on 2004/10/18 22:40:32 UTC
Feedback  docs/components/accesscontrol/accesscontrollerresolvers.html
Hello I was wondering there was any information that would easily spell out exactly what goes in a Lenya page. What needs to be at the top, where to put other things (where to add the menu bars) and or how to add the menu bars. I have read much of the wiki and the Lenya whole document and still have many questions on what Lenya can do and how. I am defiantly a beginner and do not always understand the explanations that say then just modify the generate line or that transform line. What needs to be replaced and with what. Basically I am asking if there is a beginners document?
Re: Feedback docs/components/accesscontrol/accesscontrollerresolvers.html
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Hi Josh,
some thoughts in the beginning:
IMHO we can't write this kind of documentation (what goes on in a Lenya
page), because it totally depends on your publication. We can only
document the components and concepts, everything else is up to you.
Josh Proctor wrote:
> Hello I was wondering there was any information that would *easily spell
> out exactly* what goes in a Lenya page.
http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon-lenya/GetPageWalkthrough
Maybe it's a bit outdated, but this is the approach someone
took to express "what goes on in a Lenya page" :)
But IIRC it is only about the default publication.
> What needs to be at the top,
> where to put other things (where to add the menu bars) and or how to add
> the menu bars.
No restrictions at all. Do whatever you want.
> I have read much of the wiki and the Lenya whole
> document and still have many questions on what Lenya can do and how. I
> am defiantly a beginner and do not always understand the explanations
> that say then just modify the generate line or that transform line.
That will come with deeper Cocoon knowledge.
> What needs to be replaced and with what. Basically I am asking if there
> is a beginners document?
I don't think so, but maybe someone can do the trick in spite of my
concerns :)
-- Andreas
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Re: Feedback  docs/components/accesscontrol/accesscontrollerresolvers.html
Posted by Elif SARI <es...@treda.com.tr>.
Josh Proctor <josh.proctor <at> lat-inc.net> writes:
>
> Hello I was wondering there was any information that would easily spell out
exactly what goes in a Lenya page. What needs to be at the top, where to put
> other things (where to add the menu bars) and or how to add the menu bars. I
have read much of the wiki and the Lenya
> whole document and still have many questions on what Lenya can do and how. I
am defiantly a beginner and do not always
> understand the explanations that say then just modify the generate line or
that
> transform line. What needs to be
> replaced and with what. Basically I am
> asking if there is a beginners document?
>
I have absolutely same thoughts as yours.I am beginner also.and need more like
beginners document.
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Re: Feedback docs/components/accesscontrol/accesscontrollerresolvers.html
Posted by daniel Griffith <me...@yahoo.com>.
--- Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> This one is good for a start:
>
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/index.html
>
> Due to the fact that Lenya is written using the
> Cocoon framework,
> it is proably very hard (if not impossible) to use
> Lenya without
> deep Cocoon knowledge.
Yup,I "discovered" Lenya about a month ago, and was
pretty excited about using it - but realised pretty
fast I needed to know Cocoon well before I could do
anything worthwhile with Lenya:)
I spent a few days relearning what I'd forgotten about
XML/XSLT and then got a few books on Cocoon. The best
one I have found is:
Coccon Developers Handbook - by Lajos Moczar and
Jeremy Aston
In free time in the last few weeks I have hammered my
way though its tutorials, and I feel confident that a
project I am gonna start at the end of this week can
be done using Lenya...
daniel
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Re: Feedback docs/components/accesscontrol/accesscontrollerresolvers.html
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Josh Proctor wrote:
> Hello I was wondering there was any information that would *easily spell
> out exactly* what goes in a Lenya page. What needs to be at the top,
> where to put other things (where to add the menu bars) and or how to add
> the menu bars. I have read much of the wiki and the Lenya whole
> document and still have many questions on what Lenya can do and how. I
> am defiantly a beginner and do not always understand the explanations
> that say then just modify the generate line or that transform line.
> What needs to be replaced and with what. Basically I am asking if there
> is a beginners document?
>
This one is good for a start:
http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/userdocs/concepts/index.html
Due to the fact that Lenya is written using the Cocoon framework,
it is proably very hard (if not impossible) to use Lenya without
deep Cocoon knowledge.
I think it is nearly impossible to write a Lenya introduction document.
If you're familiar Cocoon, you'll certainly have no problems
working with Lenya, if you're not familiar with Cocoon, it will be
very hard in the beginning.
-- Andreas
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