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Posted to users@qpid.apache.org by Ken Giusti <kg...@redhat.com> on 2013/10/17 19:51:32 UTC
Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console development libraries
(libqmf2)?
Hi All,
Before I start investing time working on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5226 and https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-4981, I was wondering if anyone actually uses these C++ libraries.
As far as I can tell, the code hasn't seen any serious development in over two years. That, and given that there are no unit tests run on that code (QPID-4981), I'm wondering if this code is actually being used.
Please let me know,
-K
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Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Kerry Bonin <ke...@gmail.com>.
Thx, I was using the 0.24 tag, should have checked trunk. Appreciate the
help, I'll ping if I run into any issues!
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Andrew Stitcher <as...@redhat.com>wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 12:37 -0600, Kerry Bonin wrote:
> > I didn't see
> /home/gordon/projects/qpid-svn-trunk/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
> > in the svn repo, where else could I look for it? thx...
>
> It's in the checked in repo:
>
> In svn:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid/trunk/qpid/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
>
> Andrew
>
>
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Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Gordon Sim <gs...@redhat.com>.
On 11/21/2013 06:59 PM, Andrew Stitcher wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 12:37 -0600, Kerry Bonin wrote:
>> I didn't see /home/gordon/projects/qpid-svn-trunk/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
>> in the svn repo, where else could I look for it? thx...
Doh! I hadn't realised I'd pasted in the local path and not the URL, sorry!
> It's in the checked in repo:
>
> In svn:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid/trunk/qpid/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
>
> Andrew
>
>
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Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Andrew Stitcher <as...@redhat.com>.
On Thu, 2013-11-21 at 12:37 -0600, Kerry Bonin wrote:
> I didn't see /home/gordon/projects/qpid-svn-trunk/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
> in the svn repo, where else could I look for it? thx...
It's in the checked in repo:
In svn:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/qpid/trunk/qpid/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
Andrew
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Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Kerry Bonin <ke...@gmail.com>.
I didn't see /home/gordon/projects/qpid-svn-trunk/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
in the svn repo, where else could I look for it? thx...
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Gordon Sim <gs...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 11/20/2013 01:33 PM, Kerry Bonin wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I'm absolutely fine w/ using the messaging APIs, and thanks for
>> the example, its clear enough. Is there any data available from the
>> console APIs (I used them a long time ago - 0.8? - weren't very stable)
>> that I can't get using the message APIs?
>>
>
> No, all the data that the tools offer can be obtained through direct use
> of the underlying QMFv2 protocol.
>
>
> And where can I look for the best
>> documentation that does exist?
>>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/QMF+Map+Message+Protocolis the basic description of the protocol, /home/gordon/projects/qpid-
> svn-trunk/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml is the schema
> definition that describes the stats and properties available for different
> classes of object.
>
> Though it doesn't really help on the list side, I've attached some rough
> notes I wrote up on creating and deleting objects. It may (or may not) be
> useful for some of the general patterns with QMF.
>
> Feel free to ask questions here as well.
>
>
>
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Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Gordon Sim <gs...@redhat.com>.
On 11/20/2013 01:33 PM, Kerry Bonin wrote:
> Thanks! I'm absolutely fine w/ using the messaging APIs, and thanks for
> the example, its clear enough. Is there any data available from the
> console APIs (I used them a long time ago - 0.8? - weren't very stable)
> that I can't get using the message APIs?
No, all the data that the tools offer can be obtained through direct use
of the underlying QMFv2 protocol.
> And where can I look for the best
> documentation that does exist?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/QMF+Map+Message+Protocol is
the basic description of the protocol,
/home/gordon/projects/qpid-svn-trunk/cpp/src/qpid/broker/management-schema.xml
is the schema definition that describes the stats and properties
available for different classes of object.
Though it doesn't really help on the list side, I've attached some rough
notes I wrote up on creating and deleting objects. It may (or may not)
be useful for some of the general patterns with QMF.
Feel free to ask questions here as well.
Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Kerry Bonin <ke...@gmail.com>.
Thanks! I'm absolutely fine w/ using the messaging APIs, and thanks for
the example, its clear enough. Is there any data available from the
console APIs (I used them a long time ago - 0.8? - weren't very stable)
that I can't get using the message APIs? And where can I look for the best
documentation that does exist?
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:19 AM, Gordon Sim <gs...@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 11/19/2013 11:09 PM, Kerry Bonin wrote:
>
>> Hello! I was just about to look them over, as I need access to queue
>> loads
>> on the brokers. If you are considering deprecating them, what would be
>> the
>> recommended way to access QMF data from the broker in a C++ client app?
>>
>
> My personal recommendation is just to construct the relevant map messages
> yourself. It is a little messy and there isn't great documentation, but it
> is actually quite simple to do and in my view will be less trouble in the
> long run. I'm certainly willing to help out with specific questions/issues.
>
> Attached is an example program that shows how to get the message depth for
> a named queue to give you an idea of what's involved.
>
>
>
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Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Gordon Sim <gs...@redhat.com>.
On 11/19/2013 11:09 PM, Kerry Bonin wrote:
> Hello! I was just about to look them over, as I need access to queue loads
> on the brokers. If you are considering deprecating them, what would be the
> recommended way to access QMF data from the broker in a C++ client app?
My personal recommendation is just to construct the relevant map
messages yourself. It is a little messy and there isn't great
documentation, but it is actually quite simple to do and in my view will
be less trouble in the long run. I'm certainly willing to help out with
specific questions/issues.
Attached is an example program that shows how to get the message depth
for a named queue to give you an idea of what's involved.
Re: Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Kerry Bonin <ke...@gmail.com>.
Hello! I was just about to look them over, as I need access to queue loads
on the brokers. If you are considering deprecating them, what would be the
recommended way to access QMF data from the broker in a C++ client app?
Kerry Bonin
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Ken Giusti <kg...@redhat.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I sent this email about a month ago with no replies to date. So I'd
> thought I'd re-ping the list. Is anyone using these libraries?
>
> If not, then I'd like to propose that we mark them as Deprecated in our
> upcoming 0.26 release.
>
> I volunteer adding the appropriate code warning directives to the build,
> so any code that attempts to include these APIs will issue deprecation
> warnings at compile time. We'll leave them available in the code for 0.26
> (and I think at least one more release - Justin?), and if the warnings
> reveal a large user base, we can "un-deprecate" them.
>
> But in order to really stand behind this code, we'll have to invest some
> time in building unit tests for them. AFAIK, this stuff is not getting any
> test coverage right now.
>
> Opinions sought!
>
> thanks,
>
> -K
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Giusti" <kg...@redhat.com>
> > To: users@qpid.apache.org
> > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:51:32 PM
> > Subject: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console development
> libraries (libqmf2)?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Before I start investing time working on
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5226 and
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-4981, I was wondering if
> anyone
> > actually uses these C++ libraries.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, the code hasn't seen any serious development in
> over
> > two years. That, and given that there are no unit tests run on that
> code
> > (QPID-4981), I'm wondering if this code is actually being used.
> >
> > Please let me know,
> >
> > -K
> >
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> >
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> -K
>
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Please Read [was: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console
development libraries (libqmf2)?]
Posted by Ken Giusti <kg...@redhat.com>.
Hi All,
I sent this email about a month ago with no replies to date. So I'd thought I'd re-ping the list. Is anyone using these libraries?
If not, then I'd like to propose that we mark them as Deprecated in our upcoming 0.26 release.
I volunteer adding the appropriate code warning directives to the build, so any code that attempts to include these APIs will issue deprecation warnings at compile time. We'll leave them available in the code for 0.26 (and I think at least one more release - Justin?), and if the warnings reveal a large user base, we can "un-deprecate" them.
But in order to really stand behind this code, we'll have to invest some time in building unit tests for them. AFAIK, this stuff is not getting any test coverage right now.
Opinions sought!
thanks,
-K
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken Giusti" <kg...@redhat.com>
> To: users@qpid.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:51:32 PM
> Subject: Is anyone using the QMF C++ Agent and Console development libraries (libqmf2)?
>
> Hi All,
>
> Before I start investing time working on
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-5226 and
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-4981, I was wondering if anyone
> actually uses these C++ libraries.
>
> As far as I can tell, the code hasn't seen any serious development in over
> two years. That, and given that there are no unit tests run on that code
> (QPID-4981), I'm wondering if this code is actually being used.
>
> Please let me know,
>
> -K
>
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