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Posted to dev@buildr.apache.org by Shane Witbeck <sh...@digitalsanctum.com> on 2008/04/30 02:05:49 UTC

IDE of choice?

I put together what I consider an alpha version of a Buildr plugin for
the IntelliJ IDEA IDE a while back and now have a dilemma. They've
started work on version 8x of IDEA and changed the plugin system. I'm
wondering if it's worthwhile continuing to support IDEA 7x with the
plugin and split the code base for 8x or just start over and
supporting 8x only. I'm also debating if I should attempt an Eclipse
plugin.

I'm just curious what IDE of choice the buildr dev's use?

-- 
-Shane

Re: IDE of choice?

Posted by Victor Hugo Borja <vi...@gmail.com>.
I think having IDE integration (I mean: being able to edit the buildfile
with syntax highlight, autocompletion, tooltips, running a task inside the
IDE, etc) is very important for the adoption of Buildr on most IDE-minded
java shops, and some of them can see the lack of IDE integration as an
strong deciding factor.

Personally, I code almost everything with Emacs, and just very very rarely
use Eclipse. One thing I can say is that developers at the company I work
would like to have an Eclipse plugin to run buildr inside their IDE. And now
we have official JRuby support, you could have a full buildr runtime in the
IDE, Netbeans claims to be the best ruby-capable IDE and I guess it already
embeds JRuby.

So I think you should itch your own scratch, if you would like to see Buildr
integrated with your favorite IDE, and you got a chance to do it, go for it.
Blog about it, make some noise and more IDE users will be using buildr.

Shane, Luis, thanks for your interest on improving the Buildr user
experience!

On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Luis Pérez <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Some time ago I considered implementing Netbeans integration, but only the
> functionality to create the files necessary for netbeans from a buildr
> task
> in the same way that buildr eclipse. Unfortunately, I moved to another
> city
> and I haven't had too much time to spent, but I'm still interested, so
> maybe
> in the following weeks I could do it.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
> Luis
>
>
> 2008/4/30 Shane Witbeck <sh...@digitalsanctum.com>:
>
> > Alexis,
> >
> > Sorry I should have made the distinction. I mean #1 which in it's
> > current form will allow you to call buildr tasks directly from IDEA.
> >
> > Thanks for your opinion,
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Alexis Midon <al...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > by plugin you mean #1. a IDEA plugin to use buildr from the IDE or #2.
> a
> > >  Buildr plugin to generate project/module files?
> > >  I'll assume #1.] since #2 already exists.
> > >
> > >  In my opinion, support for both versions would be great. Release of
> > IDEA 8
> > >  might takes some time, not to mention the user migration.
> > >
> > >  Personally the one and only true IDE is IDEA, so do not waste  your
> > time
> > >  with a zillion-th Eclipse plugin ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >  > Hi Shane,
> > >  >
> > >  > There's a pretty decent Eclipse plugin already.   You can try it
> with
> > >  > "buildr eclipse" and loading the projects into your Eclipse
> > workspace.
> > >  >
> > >  > And the survey says.... Eclipse is the only IDE I really use.
> >  Anything
> > >  > else
> > >  > goes into jEdit.
> > >  >
> > >  > alex
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Shane Witbeck <
> > shane@digitalsanctum.com>
> > >  > wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > > I put together what I consider an alpha version of a Buildr
> plugin
> > for
> > >  > > the IntelliJ IDEA IDE a while back and now have a dilemma.
> They've
> > >  > > started work on version 8x of IDEA and changed the plugin system.
> > I'm
> > >  > > wondering if it's worthwhile continuing to support IDEA 7x with
> the
> > >  > > plugin and split the code base for 8x or just start over and
> > >  > > supporting 8x only. I'm also debating if I should attempt an
> > Eclipse
> > >  > > plugin.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > I'm just curious what IDE of choice the buildr dev's use?
> > >  > >
> > >  > > --
> > >  > > -Shane
> > >  > >
> > >  >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Shane
> >
>



-- 
vic

Quaerendo invenietis.

Re: IDE of choice?

Posted by Luis Pérez <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

Some time ago I considered implementing Netbeans integration, but only the
functionality to create the files necessary for netbeans from a buildr task
in the same way that buildr eclipse. Unfortunately, I moved to another city
and I haven't had too much time to spent, but I'm still interested, so maybe
in the following weeks I could do it.

Anyone interested?

Luis


2008/4/30 Shane Witbeck <sh...@digitalsanctum.com>:

> Alexis,
>
> Sorry I should have made the distinction. I mean #1 which in it's
> current form will allow you to call buildr tasks directly from IDEA.
>
> Thanks for your opinion,
>
> Shane
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Alexis Midon <al...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > by plugin you mean #1. a IDEA plugin to use buildr from the IDE or #2. a
> >  Buildr plugin to generate project/module files?
> >  I'll assume #1.] since #2 already exists.
> >
> >  In my opinion, support for both versions would be great. Release of
> IDEA 8
> >  might takes some time, not to mention the user migration.
> >
> >  Personally the one and only true IDE is IDEA, so do not waste  your
> time
> >  with a zillion-th Eclipse plugin ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >  > Hi Shane,
> >  >
> >  > There's a pretty decent Eclipse plugin already.   You can try it with
> >  > "buildr eclipse" and loading the projects into your Eclipse
> workspace.
> >  >
> >  > And the survey says.... Eclipse is the only IDE I really use.
>  Anything
> >  > else
> >  > goes into jEdit.
> >  >
> >  > alex
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Shane Witbeck <
> shane@digitalsanctum.com>
> >  > wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > I put together what I consider an alpha version of a Buildr plugin
> for
> >  > > the IntelliJ IDEA IDE a while back and now have a dilemma. They've
> >  > > started work on version 8x of IDEA and changed the plugin system.
> I'm
> >  > > wondering if it's worthwhile continuing to support IDEA 7x with the
> >  > > plugin and split the code base for 8x or just start over and
> >  > > supporting 8x only. I'm also debating if I should attempt an
> Eclipse
> >  > > plugin.
> >  > >
> >  > > I'm just curious what IDE of choice the buildr dev's use?
> >  > >
> >  > > --
> >  > > -Shane
> >  > >
> >  >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> -Shane
>

Re: IDE of choice?

Posted by Shane Witbeck <sh...@digitalsanctum.com>.
Alexis,

Sorry I should have made the distinction. I mean #1 which in it's
current form will allow you to call buildr tasks directly from IDEA.

Thanks for your opinion,

Shane


On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Alexis Midon <al...@gmail.com> wrote:
> by plugin you mean #1. a IDEA plugin to use buildr from the IDE or #2. a
>  Buildr plugin to generate project/module files?
>  I'll assume #1.] since #2 already exists.
>
>  In my opinion, support for both versions would be great. Release of IDEA 8
>  might takes some time, not to mention the user migration.
>
>  Personally the one and only true IDE is IDEA, so do not waste  your time
>  with a zillion-th Eclipse plugin ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com> wrote:
>
>  > Hi Shane,
>  >
>  > There's a pretty decent Eclipse plugin already.   You can try it with
>  > "buildr eclipse" and loading the projects into your Eclipse workspace.
>  >
>  > And the survey says.... Eclipse is the only IDE I really use.  Anything
>  > else
>  > goes into jEdit.
>  >
>  > alex
>  >
>  >
>  > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Shane Witbeck <sh...@digitalsanctum.com>
>  > wrote:
>  >
>  > > I put together what I consider an alpha version of a Buildr plugin for
>  > > the IntelliJ IDEA IDE a while back and now have a dilemma. They've
>  > > started work on version 8x of IDEA and changed the plugin system. I'm
>  > > wondering if it's worthwhile continuing to support IDEA 7x with the
>  > > plugin and split the code base for 8x or just start over and
>  > > supporting 8x only. I'm also debating if I should attempt an Eclipse
>  > > plugin.
>  > >
>  > > I'm just curious what IDE of choice the buildr dev's use?
>  > >
>  > > --
>  > > -Shane
>  > >
>  >
>



-- 
-Shane

Re: IDE of choice?

Posted by Alexis Midon <al...@gmail.com>.
by plugin you mean #1. a IDEA plugin to use buildr from the IDE or #2. a
Buildr plugin to generate project/module files?
I'll assume #1.] since #2 already exists.

In my opinion, support for both versions would be great. Release of IDEA 8
might takes some time, not to mention the user migration.

Personally the one and only true IDE is IDEA, so do not waste  your time
with a zillion-th Eclipse plugin ;)



On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com> wrote:

> Hi Shane,
>
> There's a pretty decent Eclipse plugin already.   You can try it with
> "buildr eclipse" and loading the projects into your Eclipse workspace.
>
> And the survey says.... Eclipse is the only IDE I really use.  Anything
> else
> goes into jEdit.
>
> alex
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Shane Witbeck <sh...@digitalsanctum.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I put together what I consider an alpha version of a Buildr plugin for
> > the IntelliJ IDEA IDE a while back and now have a dilemma. They've
> > started work on version 8x of IDEA and changed the plugin system. I'm
> > wondering if it's worthwhile continuing to support IDEA 7x with the
> > plugin and split the code base for 8x or just start over and
> > supporting 8x only. I'm also debating if I should attempt an Eclipse
> > plugin.
> >
> > I'm just curious what IDE of choice the buildr dev's use?
> >
> > --
> > -Shane
> >
>

Re: IDE of choice?

Posted by Alex Boisvert <bo...@intalio.com>.
Hi Shane,

There's a pretty decent Eclipse plugin already.   You can try it with
"buildr eclipse" and loading the projects into your Eclipse workspace.

And the survey says.... Eclipse is the only IDE I really use.  Anything else
goes into jEdit.

alex


On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Shane Witbeck <sh...@digitalsanctum.com>
wrote:

> I put together what I consider an alpha version of a Buildr plugin for
> the IntelliJ IDEA IDE a while back and now have a dilemma. They've
> started work on version 8x of IDEA and changed the plugin system. I'm
> wondering if it's worthwhile continuing to support IDEA 7x with the
> plugin and split the code base for 8x or just start over and
> supporting 8x only. I'm also debating if I should attempt an Eclipse
> plugin.
>
> I'm just curious what IDE of choice the buildr dev's use?
>
> --
> -Shane
>