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Posted to marketing@cloudstack.apache.org by Radhika Puthiyetath <ra...@citrix.com> on 2014/01/21 07:17:29 UTC
[CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Hi,
Sorry for cross-posting.
Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
You can find the latest draft doc at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new feature.
Thanks
-Radhika
RE: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Radhika Puthiyetath <ra...@citrix.com>.
Thanks Giles for understanding.
Purpose is just one: soliciting feedback. Yes, true that I had no time in hand to send across three separate messages for the same purpose.
I did not never realize this would create so much chaos. I am stopping here.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:42 PM
To: Giles Sirett; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Hrushikesh Ramachandrappa (h.ramachandrappa@lek.com)
Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014, at 07:34 AM, Giles Sirett wrote:
> However, there are (and always will be) situations where somebody
> needs to inform or seek feedback across lists: not everything fits
> into one of our 3 stovepipes
There may be exceptional situations that require this. *May* be.
e.g. - major security issue, perhaps - but we have an announce list for that. Notice that a piece of critical infrastructure (website, wiki, mailing lists) will be down, sure.
Things that don't rise to that level: Requests to look at a patch; support requests; etc.
> I happen to subscribe to all 3, but I know there are many folks in
> this project who only watch @marketing. I really don't see the problem
> in Radhika seeking feedback on a key document release from a marketing
> perspective. Its quite usual in many organisations for any "customer
> facing" documentation to have a once-over from the marketing team
> before release.
I do. There was no specific "hey, this needs attention from a marketing perspective" message there. And if there *is* a need to get *specific marketing feedback* then send a *separate* message with actual requests curtailed for that list.
I don't find the "no time to send three seperate mail" excuse compelling, either. You're essentially telling every subscribe to these lists that your time is more valuable than theirs by cross-posting.
Best,
jzb
--
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jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014, at 07:34 AM, Giles Sirett wrote:
> However, there are (and always will be) situations where somebody needs
> to inform or seek feedback across lists: not everything fits into one of
> our 3 stovepipes
There may be exceptional situations that require this. *May* be.
e.g. - major security issue, perhaps - but we have an announce list for
that. Notice that a piece of critical infrastructure (website, wiki,
mailing lists) will be down, sure.
Things that don't rise to that level: Requests to look at a patch;
support requests; etc.
> I happen to subscribe to all 3, but I know there are many folks in this
> project who only watch @marketing. I really don't see the problem in
> Radhika seeking feedback on a key document release from a marketing
> perspective. Its quite usual in many organisations for any "customer
> facing" documentation to have a once-over from the marketing team before
> release.
I do. There was no specific "hey, this needs attention from a marketing
perspective" message there. And if there *is* a need to get *specific
marketing feedback* then send a *separate* message with actual requests
curtailed for that list.
I don't find the "no time to send three seperate mail" excuse
compelling, either. You're essentially telling every subscribe to these
lists that your time is more valuable than theirs by cross-posting.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
RE: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
All
My two cents.
I absolutely agree that mailing lists are for defined purposes and that, people should sign up knowing that the specific lists are targeted to what they're interested in.
And the danger of too much cross posting is that lists loose focus.
However, there are (and always will be) situations where somebody needs to inform or seek feedback across lists: not everything fits into one of our 3 stovepipes
I happen to subscribe to all 3, but I know there are many folks in this project who only watch @marketing. I really don't see the problem in Radhika seeking feedback on a key document release from a marketing perspective. Its quite usual in many organisations for any "customer facing" documentation to have a once-over from the marketing team before release.
Kind Regards
Giles
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thehyperadvisor [mailto:thehyperadvisor@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 January 2014 13:12
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Joe Brockmeier; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
I'm interested but I would also subscribe to the other mailing list to get this information. I would agree with Joe that this is why there are separate mailing lists.
Sent from mobile device.
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:00 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath <ra...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> Do you mean that nobody in Marketing list would be interested to review the docs ?
>
> Could the people in the list please confirm, so my job will be even more easier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: Radhika Puthiyetath; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>
>> On 01/21/2014 10:49 PM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>> Simple, no time to send three seperate mail...:-)
>
> Why send to marketing at all, is my point. It doesn't belong on this list. Sending to all three lists defeats the purpose of having topic-specific lists in the first place - please don't do it.
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:50 PM
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
>> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>>> Sorry for cross-posting.
>>
>> So... why? :-)
>>
>> I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
>> I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this particular draft needs to go to marketing.
>>
>> Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the lists that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or user, or dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages clogging my inbox.
>>
>>> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>>>
>>> You can find the latest draft doc at
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>>>
>>> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
>>> feature.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Radhika
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
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Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Thehyperadvisor <th...@gmail.com>.
I'm interested but I would also subscribe to the other mailing list to get this information. I would agree with Joe that this is why there are separate mailing lists.
Sent from mobile device.
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 12:00 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath <ra...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> Do you mean that nobody in Marketing list would be interested to review the docs ?
>
> Could the people in the list please confirm, so my job will be even more easier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: Radhika Puthiyetath; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>
>> On 01/21/2014 10:49 PM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>> Simple, no time to send three seperate mail...:-)
>
> Why send to marketing at all, is my point. It doesn't belong on this list. Sending to all three lists defeats the purpose of having topic-specific lists in the first place - please don't do it.
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:50 PM
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
>> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>>> Sorry for cross-posting.
>>
>> So... why? :-)
>>
>> I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
>> I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this particular draft needs to go to marketing.
>>
>> Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the lists that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or user, or dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages clogging my inbox.
>>
>>> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>>>
>>> You can find the latest draft doc at
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>>>
>>> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
>>> feature.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Radhika
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Abhisek Basu <ab...@msn.com>.
In the draft I see that the RPM pack install points to
baseurl=http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/rhel/4.2/.
Will this be the final case? Or we will modify this to be ...rhel/4.3 ?
Regards,
Abhisek
-----Original Message-----
From: Arjan
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:04 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Confirmed :)
Sent from my iPhone
> On 22 jan. 2014, at 06:00, Radhika Puthiyetath
> <ra...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> Do you mean that nobody in Marketing list would be interested to review
> the docs ?
>
> Could the people in the list please confirm, so my job will be even more
> easier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: Radhika Puthiyetath; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>
>> On 01/21/2014 10:49 PM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>> Simple, no time to send three seperate mail...:-)
>
> Why send to marketing at all, is my point. It doesn't belong on this list.
> Sending to all three lists defeats the purpose of having topic-specific
> lists in the first place - please don't do it.
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:50 PM
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
>> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>>> Sorry for cross-posting.
>>
>> So... why? :-)
>>
>> I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
>> I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this
>> particular draft needs to go to marketing.
>>
>> Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have
>> three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the lists
>> that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or user, or
>> dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages clogging
>> my inbox.
>>
>>> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>>>
>>> You can find the latest draft doc at
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>>>
>>> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
>>> feature.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Radhika
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Arjan <er...@gmail.com>.
Confirmed :)
Sent from my iPhone
> On 22 jan. 2014, at 06:00, Radhika Puthiyetath <ra...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> Do you mean that nobody in Marketing list would be interested to review the docs ?
>
> Could the people in the list please confirm, so my job will be even more easier.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:22 AM
> To: Radhika Puthiyetath; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>
>> On 01/21/2014 10:49 PM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>> Simple, no time to send three seperate mail...:-)
>
> Why send to marketing at all, is my point. It doesn't belong on this list. Sending to all three lists defeats the purpose of having topic-specific lists in the first place - please don't do it.
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:50 PM
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
>> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>>> Sorry for cross-posting.
>>
>> So... why? :-)
>>
>> I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
>> I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this particular draft needs to go to marketing.
>>
>> Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the lists that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or user, or dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages clogging my inbox.
>>
>>> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>>>
>>> You can find the latest draft doc at
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>>>
>>> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
>>> feature.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Radhika
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> jzb@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
RE: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Radhika Puthiyetath <ra...@citrix.com>.
Do you mean that nobody in Marketing list would be interested to review the docs ?
Could the people in the list please confirm, so my job will be even more easier.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:22 AM
To: Radhika Puthiyetath; marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
On 01/21/2014 10:49 PM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
> Simple, no time to send three seperate mail...:-)
Why send to marketing at all, is my point. It doesn't belong on this list. Sending to all three lists defeats the purpose of having topic-specific lists in the first place - please don't do it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:50 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>> Sorry for cross-posting.
>
> So... why? :-)
>
> I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
> I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this particular draft needs to go to marketing.
>
> Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the lists that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or user, or dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages clogging my inbox.
>
>> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>>
>> You can find the latest draft doc at
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>>
>> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
>> feature.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Radhika
>
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On 01/21/2014 10:49 PM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
> Simple, no time to send three seperate mail...:-)
Why send to marketing at all, is my point. It doesn't belong on this
list. Sending to all three lists defeats the purpose of having
topic-specific lists in the first place - please don't do it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:50 PM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
> Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
>> Sorry for cross-posting.
>
> So... why? :-)
>
> I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
> I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this particular draft needs to go to marketing.
>
> Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the lists that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or user, or dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages clogging my inbox.
>
>> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>>
>> You can find the latest draft doc at
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>>
>> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
>> feature.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Radhika
>
>
> Best,
>
> jzb
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> jzb@zonker.net
> Twitter: @jzb
> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
RE: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Radhika Puthiyetath <ra...@citrix.com>.
Simple, no time to send three seperate mail...:-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:50 PM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Radhika Puthiyetath
Subject: Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
> Sorry for cross-posting.
So... why? :-)
I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this particular draft needs to go to marketing.
Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the lists that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or user, or dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages clogging my inbox.
> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>
> You can find the latest draft doc at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>
> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
> feature.
>
> Thanks
> -Radhika
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: [CLOUDSTACK-1001] Hyper-V Documentation for Review
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014, at 12:17 AM, Radhika Puthiyetath wrote:
> Sorry for cross-posting.
So... why? :-)
I don't understand why you'd send this to the marketing list, honestly.
I know that folks want review of documentation, but I don't see why this
particular draft needs to go to marketing.
Let's please not establish a habit of this - there's a reason we have
three different mailing lists and people choose to subscribe to the
lists that are of interest. If I'm only subscribed to marketing (or
user, or dev), that's a strong signal I don't want dev or user messages
clogging my inbox.
> Hyper-V Documentation draft is ready to be picked up for review.
>
> You can find the latest draft doc at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1001
>
> Share your feedback so that we can improve the usability of this new
> feature.
>
> Thanks
> -Radhika
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/