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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by robert burrell donkin <rd...@apache.org> on 2003/11/07 08:26:46 UTC
[ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories offline for
a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to protect every body
involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the legal rights
and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed as an admission of
guilt.
i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the best forum for
future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed directly.
thanks for your understanding.
- robert
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OT: Re: [ANN] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by Vic Cekvenich <ce...@baseBeans.com>.
Interesting that HiveMind was a problem, yet jBoss to Geromino is not a
potential legal problem for Apache Users. What was the diference, that
they put the code in sf.net first, refactored packages and claimed it
was not jBoss IP? All Howard did was level with ASF, and Geronimo
(insert appropriate word) claimed orignial IP. Even enforcement would
be great.
I hope HiveMind shows up on sf.net in the mean time, it is realy, realy
neat and original advance in developmnet productivity. I was starting to
use Pico IoC before, then ..
I found this very educational:
http://jakarta.apache.org/~hlship/HiveMind.ppt
Coding to interfaces, Services and beeing able to intercept (AOP like?).
.V
robert burrell donkin wrote:
> the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories offline
> for a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to protect
> every body involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the
> legal rights and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed as
> an admission of guilt.
>
> i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
> attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
> resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
>
> the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the best forum
> for future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed directly.
>
> thanks for your understanding.
>
> - robert
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Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
thanks for the heads up, john.
i've added a .htaccess file which does a temporary redirect. (so that
the website is still there, ready for reinstatement later.)
- robert
On 7 Nov 2003, at 17:12, John Keyes wrote:
> The website should also be taken offline also (the XRef of the
> code is available) to close the other public entry point.
>
> -John K
>
> On 7 Nov 2003, at 07:26, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
>> the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories offline
>> for a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to protect
>> every body involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the
>> legal rights and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed
>> as an admission of guilt.
>>
>> i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
>> attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
>> resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
>>
>> the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the best
>> forum for future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed
>> directly.
>>
>> thanks for your understanding.
>>
>> - robert
>>
>>
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RE: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
And I've taken down the binary/source downloads.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:hlship@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: 'Jakarta Commons Developers List'
> Subject: RE: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily
> taken offline
>
>
> I'm temporarily bulding out a version of the site that
> doesn't include the clover report or code xref.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Keyes [mailto:jbjk@mac.com]
> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:12 PM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> > Subject: Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily
> > taken offline
> >
> >
> > The website should also be taken offline also (the XRef of
> > the code is available) to close the other public entry point.
> >
> > -John K
> >
> > On 7 Nov 2003, at 07:26, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >
> > > the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind
> > directories offline
> > > for a temporary period. this decision was taken in order
> to protect
> > > every body involved from legal action. this is not a
> > judgement of the
> > > legal rights and wrongs of the situation nor should it be
> > construed as
> > > an admission of guilt.
> > >
> > > i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
> > > attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc
> > to help us
> > > resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
> > >
> > > the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the
> > best forum
> > > for future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed
> > > directly.
> > >
> > > thanks for your understanding.
> > >
> > > - robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
I'm temporarily bulding out a version of the site that doesn't include the clover report or code
xref.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Keyes [mailto:jbjk@mac.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:12 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily
> taken offline
>
>
> The website should also be taken offline also (the XRef of
> the code is available) to close the other public entry point.
>
> -John K
>
> On 7 Nov 2003, at 07:26, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
> > the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind
> directories offline
> > for a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to protect
> > every body involved from legal action. this is not a
> judgement of the
> > legal rights and wrongs of the situation nor should it be
> construed as
> > an admission of guilt.
> >
> > i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
> > attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc
> to help us
> > resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
> >
> > the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the
> best forum
> > for future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed
> > directly.
> >
> > thanks for your understanding.
> >
> > - robert
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by John Keyes <jb...@mac.com>.
The website should also be taken offline also (the XRef of the
code is available) to close the other public entry point.
-John K
On 7 Nov 2003, at 07:26, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories offline
> for a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to protect
> every body involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the
> legal rights and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed as
> an admission of guilt.
>
> i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
> attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
> resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
>
> the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the best forum
> for future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed
> directly.
>
> thanks for your understanding.
>
> - robert
>
>
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RE: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> that be the case I wonder why Howard's previous post to general
> regarding this matter got only one response.
The ability to provide proper oversight is an issue for the Jakarta PMC to
take up.
--- Noel
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Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by Harish Krishnaswamy <hk...@comcast.net>.
Hmm.. that be the case I wonder why Howard's previous post to general regarding this matter got only
one response.
-Harish
Rodney Waldhoff wrote:
> The pmc mailing list is pmc@jakarta.apache.org. I believe it is closed to
> pmc mebmers only. Like robert suggests, general@jakarta might be a good
> place for general pmc discusion.
>
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:
>
>
>>Yeah where is the pmc mailing list? I was looking for it too, to see what's going on. Is it only for
>>the pmc?
>>
>>-Harish
>>
>>Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Beet me to the punch; I was just looking for the Jakarta PMC mailing list, since my previous posting
>>>(to the Jakarta General list) got no response.
>>>
>>>Taking HiveMind offline is drastic, but may be the best course forward. I need to see what the
>>>delay is at WebCT.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
>>>http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
>>>>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:27 AM
>>>>To: Jakarta Commons Developers
>>>>Cc: pmc@jakarta.apache.org
>>>>Subject: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories
>>>>offline for
>>>>a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to
>>>>protect every body
>>>>involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the
>>>>legal rights
>>>>and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed as an
>>>>admission of
>>>>guilt.
>>>>
>>>>i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
>>>>attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
>>>>resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
>>>>
>>>>the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the
>>>>best forum for
>>>>future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed directly.
>>>>
>>>>thanks for your understanding.
>>>>
>>>>- robert
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by Rodney Waldhoff <rw...@apache.org>.
The pmc mailing list is pmc@jakarta.apache.org. I believe it is closed to
pmc mebmers only. Like robert suggests, general@jakarta might be a good
place for general pmc discusion.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Harish Krishnaswamy wrote:
> Yeah where is the pmc mailing list? I was looking for it too, to see what's going on. Is it only for
> the pmc?
>
> -Harish
>
> Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
>
> > Beet me to the punch; I was just looking for the Jakarta PMC mailing list, since my previous posting
> > (to the Jakarta General list) got no response.
> >
> > Taking HiveMind offline is drastic, but may be the best course forward. I need to see what the
> > delay is at WebCT.
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> > http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
> >>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:27 AM
> >>To: Jakarta Commons Developers
> >>Cc: pmc@jakarta.apache.org
> >>Subject: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
> >>
> >>
> >>the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories
> >>offline for
> >>a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to
> >>protect every body
> >>involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the
> >>legal rights
> >>and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed as an
> >>admission of
> >>guilt.
> >>
> >>i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
> >>attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
> >>resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
> >>
> >>the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the
> >>best forum for
> >>future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed directly.
> >>
> >>thanks for your understanding.
> >>
> >>- robert
> >>
> >>
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Re: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by Harish Krishnaswamy <hk...@comcast.net>.
Yeah where is the pmc mailing list? I was looking for it too, to see what's going on. Is it only for
the pmc?
-Harish
Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> Beet me to the punch; I was just looking for the Jakarta PMC mailing list, since my previous posting
> (to the Jakarta General list) got no response.
>
> Taking HiveMind offline is drastic, but may be the best course forward. I need to see what the
> delay is at WebCT.
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
> http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
>>Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:27 AM
>>To: Jakarta Commons Developers
>>Cc: pmc@jakarta.apache.org
>>Subject: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
>>
>>
>>the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories
>>offline for
>>a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to
>>protect every body
>>involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the
>>legal rights
>>and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed as an
>>admission of
>>guilt.
>>
>>i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
>>attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
>>resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
>>
>>the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the
>>best forum for
>>future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed directly.
>>
>>thanks for your understanding.
>>
>>- robert
>>
>>
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RE: HiveMind status?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
Nope; as per my blog, the hold up is due to office moves and acquisitions by WebCT. It's on the
corporate counsel's desk, but he's not moving fast because its not a priority to *them*.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:noel@devtech.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 9:02 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: HiveMind status?
>
>
> On Novemer 7, 2003 Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> > I need to see what the delay is at WebCT.
>
> Any idea? Anything anyone can do to help?
>
> --- Noel
>
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HiveMind status?
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
On Novemer 7, 2003 Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> I need to see what the delay is at WebCT.
Any idea? Anything anyone can do to help?
--- Noel
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RE: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@comcast.net>.
Beet me to the punch; I was just looking for the Jakarta PMC mailing list, since my previous posting
(to the Jakarta General list) got no response.
Taking HiveMind offline is drastic, but may be the best course forward. I need to see what the
delay is at WebCT.
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
http://javatapestry.blogspot.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert burrell donkin [mailto:rdonkin@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 2:27 AM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers
> Cc: pmc@jakarta.apache.org
> Subject: [ANN][hivemind] hivemind has been temporarily taken offline
>
>
> the jakarta-pmc have decided to take the hivemind directories
> offline for
> a temporary period. this decision was taken in order to
> protect every body
> involved from legal action. this is not a judgement of the
> legal rights
> and wrongs of the situation nor should it be construed as an
> admission of
> guilt.
>
> i'd like to thank howard for drawing these possible issues to our
> attention and hope that he continues to work with the pmc to help us
> resolve the issues as quickly as possible.
>
> the general@jakarta.apache.org mailing list is probably the
> best forum for
> future discussions of this action or the pmc can be mailed directly.
>
> thanks for your understanding.
>
> - robert
>
>
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