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[Bug 65508] New: Joomla! requires htaccess

https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65508

            Bug ID: 65508
           Summary: Joomla! requires htaccess
           Product: Apache httpd-2
           Version: 2.4-HEAD
          Hardware: PC
                OS: Mac OS X 10.1
            Status: NEW
          Severity: minor
          Priority: P2
         Component: Documentation
          Assignee: docs@httpd.apache.org
          Reporter: richardh9935@gmail.com
  Target Milestone: ---

Joomla! installation on Debian-based system only succeeded after I changed that
to "Require all granted".

Please update Apache help forums and cwiki.apache.org "Deborkification" to ask
Debian users to beware of needing this change.

Secondly, Deborkification and many other entries still discuss Apache2.2 code,
specifically "Deny" rather than "Require".

TO EXPLAIN:
To install Joomla! on Debian 10 Buster at home, I configured a virtual host
using  the standard instructions from cwiki.apache.org.

The Joomla installation process failed repeatedly, with error 403,
ClientDeniedByServerConfiguration.

"Deborkification" in cwiki.apache.org provided the useful hint on its very last
line.

Quote:
Now the problem here is the directive Deny from all, which effectively denies
access to the proxy, leading to 403 Errors ClientDeniedByServerConfiguration
errors in the ErrorLog.
EndQuote.

Debian uses "apache2.conf" stored in /etc/apache2 to configure global Apache
<Directory> and <FilesMatch> parameters. 

Debian packagers have set access to .htaccess to "Require all denied".

Joomla! installation only succeeded after I changed that to "Require all
granted".

cwiki.apache.org explains in HTaccess why Joomla! packagers require HTaccess -
they don't have sufficient access to amend the apache2.conf or httpd.conf files
and restart Apache. Nor should they.

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[Bug 65508] Joomla! requires htaccess

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65508

--- Comment #2 from Rich Bowen <rb...@apache.org> ---
It is not clear to me specifically what change you are requesting, and where.
Perhaps you could provide the URLs of the pages that you wish to have changed,
and suggest specific phrasing for those pages?

We don't have nay authority or control over Joomla documentation or practices
(although we could certainly submit patches to them, if that's helpful?) and
the Wiki is user-submitted recommendations, not official documentation.

Yes, it is indeed frustrating that so many third-party sites reference and
recommend 2.2 (or even earlier!) syntax in their configuration recommendations.
We address those as we come across them, but for the most part we have no more
influence over those third-party docs than you do as a user.

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[Bug 65508] Joomla! requires htaccess

Posted by bu...@apache.org.
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Richard Horobin <ri...@gmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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              Alias|                            |DebianDebOrkification
           Keywords|                            |Beginner
                 OS|Mac OS X 10.1               |Linux
                URL|                            |https://cwiki.apache.org/co
                   |                            |nfluence/display/HTTPD/Debi
                   |                            |anDeb0rkification

--- Comment #1 from Richard Horobin <ri...@gmail.com> ---
Should have said DebianDebOrkification.

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