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Posted to dev@openmeetings.apache.org by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com> on 2013/02/26 08:48:40 UTC
New address book
Hello folks, Sebastian,
I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
just a copy of a newer thing than before.
We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks like
android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
start coding.
Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
well).
All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
resembles the one we have now.
The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
maybe some other lib in the middle).
Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
html5 transition.
After we do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.
It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and social
networks, managing duplicates.
Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
placing cameras in a cafeteria.
Re: New address book
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Hello Peter,
Each user will have its own address book. If server administrator has
configured ldap import, a user gets some corporate contacts by default. His
personal contacts and social network contacts do not transfer to other user
books automatically.
One more thing to add: offline users are sorted by default using "last
contacted" field-this means favorites are on the top.
26.02.2013 11:58 пользователь "Peter Dähn" <da...@vcrp.de> написал:
> Hello everybody,
>
> we discuss about privacy issues.
>
> One can search across all users by default. There should by an option for
> the users to configure whether they are in that list or not. And it should
> be set to keep privacy by default.
>
> Greetings
> Peter Dähn
>
> Am 26.02.2013 08:48, schrieb Alexei Fedotov:
>
>> Hello folks, Sebastian,
>>
>> I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
>> just a copy of a newer thing than before.
>>
>> We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks like
>> android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
>> start coding.
>>
>> Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
>> the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
>> invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
>> mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
>> does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
>> the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
>> well).
>>
>> All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
>> resembles the one we have now.
>>
>> The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
>> Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
>> maybe some other lib in the middle).
>>
>> Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
>> html5 transition.
>>
>> After we do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.
>>
>> It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
>> implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
>> apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
>> better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
>> invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
>> openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
>> would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
>> invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
>>
>> Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
>> social
>> networks, managing duplicates.
>> Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
>> turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
>> into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
>> placing cameras in a cafeteria.
>>
>>
>
Re: New address book
Posted by Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de>.
Hello everybody,
we discuss about privacy issues.
One can search across all users by default. There should by an option
for the users to configure whether they are in that list or not. And it
should be set to keep privacy by default.
Greetings
Peter Dähn
Am 26.02.2013 08:48, schrieb Alexei Fedotov:
> Hello folks, Sebastian,
>
> I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
> just a copy of a newer thing than before.
>
> We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks like
> android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
> start coding.
>
> Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
> the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
> invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
> mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
> does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
> the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
> well).
>
> All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
> resembles the one we have now.
>
> The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
> maybe some other lib in the middle).
>
> Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
> html5 transition.
>
> After we do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.
>
> It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
> apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
> better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
> invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
> would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
> invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
>
> Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and social
> networks, managing duplicates.
> Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
> turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
> into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
> placing cameras in a cafeteria.
>
Re: New address book
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
No iframes, I promise! :-)
Thanks for looking into it.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> nobody likes iframes :))
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Okay,
>>
>> I just have seen you want to put it into an iFrame.
>> Can an application running in an iFrame communicate with another SWF that
>> runs in another iFrame ?
>> It is essential that the communication between the app in the iFrame and
>> the main SWF(s) and vice versa works.
>>
>> From my point of view having the address book loaded into a div as overlay
>> has some advantages.
>> An iFrame solution is very static, the iFrame would be situated always on
>> the left, right, bottom or top. And it would always need the entire side,
>> so splitting it up like for example the user list + the activity window on
>> the left side will not be possible.
>> A div-overlay object could potentially anywhere be.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/27 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>>
>> > The idea was to allow users share urls and browse web sites.
>> > 27.02.2013 8:53 пользователь "Irina Arkhipets" <
>> irina.arkhipets@gmail.com>
>> > написал:
>> >
>> > > Hi Sebastian,
>> > >
>> > > Actually, no. I was going to put iframe into whiteboard - it can be
>> > useful
>> > > sometime...
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Irina.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:01 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
>> > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay
>> > over
>> > > > Flash a part / a research to realize this?
>> > > >
>> > > > Sebastian
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > 2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new
>> book.
>> > > The
>> > > > > video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object
>> tag
>> > > > > without iframe
>> > > > >
>> > > > > One more note - when I say ¨android address book" I mean search
>> > > > utilities
>> > > > > at the first place.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber
>> > > > server
>> > > > > (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server
>> > also
>> > > > > provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a
>> > > smaller
>> > > > > one, we can use openfire server.
>> > > > > I like the idea of common address book
>> > > > >
>> > > > > but it will NOT work in iframe
>> > > > > so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
>> > > > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>> > > > > >wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Hello folks, Sebastian,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
>> > > > > innovation,
>> > > > > > just a copy of a newer thing than before.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which
>> looks
>> > > like
>> > > > > > android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback
>> > > before
>> > > > we
>> > > > > > start coding.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already
>> > > participates
>> > > > in
>> > > > > > the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the
>> > board
>> > > > the
>> > > > > > invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
>> > > > > including
>> > > > > > mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on
>> the
>> > > > > contact
>> > > > > > does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start
>> > > > adopting
>> > > > > > the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad
>> working
>> > as
>> > > > > > well).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the
>> default
>> > > > look
>> > > > > > resembles the one we have now.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
>> > > > > > Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of
>> > jquery
>> > > > > (and
>> > > > > > maybe some other lib in the middle).
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual
>> > > flash
>> > > > > to
>> > > > > > html5 transition.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > After we do basics, further ideas include the following
>> > > improvements.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
>> > > > > > implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently
>> > > developed
>> > > > > > apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level
>> > will
>> > > > help
>> > > > > > better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address
>> book
>> > > > > > invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
>> > > > > > openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The
>> > whole
>> > > > > thing
>> > > > > > would help to light a green light for thise who are online and
>> > > > distribute
>> > > > > > invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google
>> > and
>> > > > > social
>> > > > > > networks, managing duplicates.
>> > > > > > Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They
>> > > > automatically
>> > > > > > turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns
>> > > > openmeetings
>> > > > > > into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take
>> > advance
>> > > of
>> > > > > > placing cameras in a cafeteria.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > WBR
>> > > > > Maxim aka solomax
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Sebastian Wagner
>> > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
>> > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
>> http://www.webbase-design.de
>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
>> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
Re: New address book
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
nobody likes iframes :))
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay,
>
> I just have seen you want to put it into an iFrame.
> Can an application running in an iFrame communicate with another SWF that
> runs in another iFrame ?
> It is essential that the communication between the app in the iFrame and
> the main SWF(s) and vice versa works.
>
> From my point of view having the address book loaded into a div as overlay
> has some advantages.
> An iFrame solution is very static, the iFrame would be situated always on
> the left, right, bottom or top. And it would always need the entire side,
> so splitting it up like for example the user list + the activity window on
> the left side will not be possible.
> A div-overlay object could potentially anywhere be.
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2013/2/27 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>
> > The idea was to allow users share urls and browse web sites.
> > 27.02.2013 8:53 пользователь "Irina Arkhipets" <
> irina.arkhipets@gmail.com>
> > написал:
> >
> > > Hi Sebastian,
> > >
> > > Actually, no. I was going to put iframe into whiteboard - it can be
> > useful
> > > sometime...
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Irina.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:01 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay
> > over
> > > > Flash a part / a research to realize this?
> > > >
> > > > Sebastian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
> > > > >
> > > > > My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new
> book.
> > > The
> > > > > video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object
> tag
> > > > > without iframe
> > > > >
> > > > > One more note - when I say ¨android address book" I mean search
> > > > utilities
> > > > > at the first place.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber
> > > > server
> > > > > (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server
> > also
> > > > > provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a
> > > smaller
> > > > > one, we can use openfire server.
> > > > > I like the idea of common address book
> > > > >
> > > > > but it will NOT work in iframe
> > > > > so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello folks, Sebastian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
> > > > > innovation,
> > > > > > just a copy of a newer thing than before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which
> looks
> > > like
> > > > > > android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback
> > > before
> > > > we
> > > > > > start coding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already
> > > participates
> > > > in
> > > > > > the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the
> > board
> > > > the
> > > > > > invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
> > > > > including
> > > > > > mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on
> the
> > > > > contact
> > > > > > does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start
> > > > adopting
> > > > > > the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad
> working
> > as
> > > > > > well).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the
> default
> > > > look
> > > > > > resembles the one we have now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> > > > > > Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of
> > jquery
> > > > > (and
> > > > > > maybe some other lib in the middle).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual
> > > flash
> > > > > to
> > > > > > html5 transition.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After we do basics, further ideas include the following
> > > improvements.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> > > > > > implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently
> > > developed
> > > > > > apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level
> > will
> > > > help
> > > > > > better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address
> book
> > > > > > invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> > > > > > openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The
> > whole
> > > > > thing
> > > > > > would help to light a green light for thise who are online and
> > > > distribute
> > > > > > invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google
> > and
> > > > > social
> > > > > > networks, managing duplicates.
> > > > > > Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They
> > > > automatically
> > > > > > turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns
> > > > openmeetings
> > > > > > into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take
> > advance
> > > of
> > > > > > placing cameras in a cafeteria.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > WBR
> > > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: New address book
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Okay,
I just have seen you want to put it into an iFrame.
Can an application running in an iFrame communicate with another SWF that
runs in another iFrame ?
It is essential that the communication between the app in the iFrame and
the main SWF(s) and vice versa works.
>From my point of view having the address book loaded into a div as overlay
has some advantages.
An iFrame solution is very static, the iFrame would be situated always on
the left, right, bottom or top. And it would always need the entire side,
so splitting it up like for example the user list + the activity window on
the left side will not be possible.
A div-overlay object could potentially anywhere be.
Sebastian
2013/2/27 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> The idea was to allow users share urls and browse web sites.
> 27.02.2013 8:53 пользователь "Irina Arkhipets" <ir...@gmail.com>
> написал:
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > Actually, no. I was going to put iframe into whiteboard - it can be
> useful
> > sometime...
> >
> > Regards,
> > Irina.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:01 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay
> over
> > > Flash a part / a research to realize this?
> > >
> > > Sebastian
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
> > > >
> > > > My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new book.
> > The
> > > > video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object tag
> > > > without iframe
> > > >
> > > > One more note - when I say ¨android address book" I mean search
> > > utilities
> > > > at the first place.
> > > >
> > > > Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber
> > > server
> > > > (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server
> also
> > > > provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a
> > smaller
> > > > one, we can use openfire server.
> > > > I like the idea of common address book
> > > >
> > > > but it will NOT work in iframe
> > > > so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello folks, Sebastian,
> > > > >
> > > > > I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
> > > > innovation,
> > > > > just a copy of a newer thing than before.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks
> > like
> > > > > android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback
> > before
> > > we
> > > > > start coding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already
> > participates
> > > in
> > > > > the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the
> board
> > > the
> > > > > invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
> > > > including
> > > > > mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the
> > > > contact
> > > > > does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start
> > > adopting
> > > > > the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working
> as
> > > > > well).
> > > > >
> > > > > All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default
> > > look
> > > > > resembles the one we have now.
> > > > >
> > > > > The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> > > > > Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of
> jquery
> > > > (and
> > > > > maybe some other lib in the middle).
> > > > >
> > > > > Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual
> > flash
> > > > to
> > > > > html5 transition.
> > > > >
> > > > > After we do basics, further ideas include the following
> > improvements.
> > > > >
> > > > > It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> > > > > implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently
> > developed
> > > > > apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level
> will
> > > help
> > > > > better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
> > > > > invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> > > > > openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The
> whole
> > > > thing
> > > > > would help to light a green light for thise who are online and
> > > distribute
> > > > > invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google
> and
> > > > social
> > > > > networks, managing duplicates.
> > > > > Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They
> > > automatically
> > > > > turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns
> > > openmeetings
> > > > > into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take
> advance
> > of
> > > > > placing cameras in a cafeteria.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > WBR
> > > > Maxim aka solomax
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> > >
> >
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: New address book
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
The idea was to allow users share urls and browse web sites.
27.02.2013 8:53 пользователь "Irina Arkhipets" <ir...@gmail.com>
написал:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> Actually, no. I was going to put iframe into whiteboard - it can be useful
> sometime...
>
> Regards,
> Irina.
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:01 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
> seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay over
> > Flash a part / a research to realize this?
> >
> > Sebastian
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
> > >
> > > My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new book.
> The
> > > video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object tag
> > > without iframe
> > >
> > > One more note - when I say ¨android address book" I mean search
> > utilities
> > > at the first place.
> > >
> > > Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber
> > server
> > > (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server also
> > > provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a
> smaller
> > > one, we can use openfire server.
> > > I like the idea of common address book
> > >
> > > but it will NOT work in iframe
> > > so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> > alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello folks, Sebastian,
> > > >
> > > > I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
> > > innovation,
> > > > just a copy of a newer thing than before.
> > > >
> > > > We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks
> like
> > > > android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback
> before
> > we
> > > > start coding.
> > > >
> > > > Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already
> participates
> > in
> > > > the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board
> > the
> > > > invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
> > > including
> > > > mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the
> > > contact
> > > > does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start
> > adopting
> > > > the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
> > > > well).
> > > >
> > > > All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default
> > look
> > > > resembles the one we have now.
> > > >
> > > > The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> > > > Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery
> > > (and
> > > > maybe some other lib in the middle).
> > > >
> > > > Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual
> flash
> > > to
> > > > html5 transition.
> > > >
> > > > After we do basics, further ideas include the following
> improvements.
> > > >
> > > > It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> > > > implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently
> developed
> > > > apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will
> > help
> > > > better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
> > > > invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> > > > openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole
> > > thing
> > > > would help to light a green light for thise who are online and
> > distribute
> > > > invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
> > > >
> > > > Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
> > > social
> > > > networks, managing duplicates.
> > > > Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They
> > automatically
> > > > turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns
> > openmeetings
> > > > into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance
> of
> > > > placing cameras in a cafeteria.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > WBR
> > > Maxim aka solomax
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> > http://www.webbase-design.de
> > http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> > seba.wagner@gmail.com
> >
>
Re: New address book
Posted by Irina Arkhipets <ir...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sebastian,
Actually, no. I was going to put iframe into whiteboard - it can be useful
sometime...
Regards,
Irina.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:01 AM, seba.wagner@gmail.com <
seba.wagner@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay over
> Flash a part / a research to realize this?
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> 2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
> >
> > My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new book. The
> > video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object tag
> > without iframe
> >
> > One more note - when I say ¨android address book" I mean search
> utilities
> > at the first place.
> >
> > Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber
> server
> > (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server also
> > provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a smaller
> > one, we can use openfire server.
> > I like the idea of common address book
> >
> > but it will NOT work in iframe
> > so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <
> alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hello folks, Sebastian,
> > >
> > > I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
> > innovation,
> > > just a copy of a newer thing than before.
> > >
> > > We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks like
> > > android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before
> we
> > > start coding.
> > >
> > > Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates
> in
> > > the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board
> the
> > > invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
> > including
> > > mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the
> > contact
> > > does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start
> adopting
> > > the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
> > > well).
> > >
> > > All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default
> look
> > > resembles the one we have now.
> > >
> > > The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> > > Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery
> > (and
> > > maybe some other lib in the middle).
> > >
> > > Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash
> > to
> > > html5 transition.
> > >
> > > After we do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.
> > >
> > > It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> > > implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
> > > apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will
> help
> > > better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
> > > invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> > > openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole
> > thing
> > > would help to light a green light for thise who are online and
> distribute
> > > invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
> > >
> > > Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
> > social
> > > networks, managing duplicates.
> > > Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They
> automatically
> > > turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns
> openmeetings
> > > into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
> > > placing cameras in a cafeteria.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > WBR
> > Maxim aka solomax
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Wagner
> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
> http://www.webbase-design.de
> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> seba.wagner@gmail.com
>
Re: New address book
Posted by "seba.wagner@gmail.com" <se...@gmail.com>.
Is the request that Irina is working on about creating html overlay over
Flash a part / a research to realize this?
Sebastian
2013/2/26 Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>
> Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
>
> My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new book. The
> video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object tag
> without iframe
>
> One more note - when I say ¨android address book" I mean search utilities
> at the first place.
>
> Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber server
> (or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server also
> provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a smaller
> one, we can use openfire server.
> I like the idea of common address book
>
> but it will NOT work in iframe
> so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello folks, Sebastian,
> >
> > I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real
> innovation,
> > just a copy of a newer thing than before.
> >
> > We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks like
> > android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
> > start coding.
> >
> > Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
> > the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
> > invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels
> including
> > mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the
> contact
> > does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
> > the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
> > well).
> >
> > All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
> > resembles the one we have now.
> >
> > The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> > Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery
> (and
> > maybe some other lib in the middle).
> >
> > Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash
> to
> > html5 transition.
> >
> > After we do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.
> >
> > It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> > implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
> > apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
> > better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
> > invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> > openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole
> thing
> > would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
> > invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
> >
> > Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
> social
> > networks, managing duplicates.
> > Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
> > turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
> > into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
> > placing cameras in a cafeteria.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax
>
--
Sebastian Wagner
https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock
http://www.webbase-design.de
http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
seba.wagner@gmail.com
Re: New address book
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Hello Maxim, thanks for support.
My point was we still keep flash whiteboard and video with new book. The
video is separated already. The board can be embedded with object tag
without iframe
One more note - when I say ¨android address book" I mean search utilities
at the first place.
Peter, our contacts in the book are like jabber contacts - a jabber server
(or server component) will maintain them for each user. The server also
provides basic contact exchange functionality. Unless we found a smaller
one, we can use openfire server.
I like the idea of common address book
but it will NOT work in iframe
so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <alexei.fedotov@gmail.com
>wrote:
> Hello folks, Sebastian,
>
> I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
> just a copy of a newer thing than before.
>
> We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks like
> android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
> start coding.
>
> Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
> the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
> invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
> mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
> does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
> the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
> well).
>
> All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
> resembles the one we have now.
>
> The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
> maybe some other lib in the middle).
>
> Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
> html5 transition.
>
> After we do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.
>
> It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
> apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
> better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
> invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
> would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
> invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
>
> Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and
social
> networks, managing duplicates.
> Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
> turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
> into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
> placing cameras in a cafeteria.
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax
Re: New address book
Posted by Maxim Solodovnik <so...@gmail.com>.
I like the idea of common address book
but it will NOT work in iframe
so it can be resolved in 3.0 only
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello folks, Sebastian,
>
> I suggest the new concept for openmeetings. This is not a real innovation,
> just a copy of a newer thing than before.
>
> We will implement a new address book for openmeetings which looks like
> android address book. I'm writing this to collect your feedback before we
> start coding.
>
> Basicly we add all other contacts below those who already participates in
> the conference. When one drugs and drops offline contact on the board the
> invitation to join the conference is sent via specified channels including
> mail and jabber. For touch interfaces left-to-right gesture on the contact
> does the thing (this already works on my Android). Yes, we start adopting
> the thing for windows 8 pad experience (and get ubuntu pad working as
> well).
>
> All offline contacts are hidden in a tab by default, so the default look
> resembles the one we have now.
>
> The new book will be available in an iframe and will use wicket.
> Android-like call animations will be implemented on the top of jquery (and
> maybe some other lib in the middle).
>
> Separating the book from the board is another srep in our gradual flash to
> html5 transition.
>
> After we do basics, further ideas include the following improvements.
>
> It will likely require a lightweight http-tunnelled jabber to be
> implemented on openmeetings side (likely as an independently developed
> apache licensed component jar - independency on the build level will help
> better reuse and testing) to add jabber transport for address book
> invitations. This can help migrating the whole chat to jabber, so
> openmeetings chat will integrate to different im networks. The whole thing
> would help to light a green light for thise who are online and distribute
> invitation urls to tgem via different im networks.
>
> Some other ideas include importing contacts by ldap, from google and social
> networks, managing duplicates.
> Some "special users" do more on receiving invitation. They automatically
> turn on camera and join the meeting. This effectively turns openmeetings
> into video survilliance system. :-) Yet some people may take advance of
> placing cameras in a cafeteria.
>
--
WBR
Maxim aka solomax