Re: SOAP streaming and faults, security everywhere and performance implications

[Steve Loughran <st...@iseran.com>]

Aleksander Slominski wrote:
> 
> maybe we need SSOAP?

Look at what UPnP1.0 did for their work; they needed the ability to 
stream a 400 page doc with inline images to a printer.
>>
> IMHO as business and scientific worlds converges on Web services and 
> Grids those distinctions are blurred.

oh, are we converging :)

> 
> for example one of the most important requirements for grid services (if 
> not the most important ...) is to have security.
> 
> in current WS world security has serious impact on performance (like one 
> order of magnitude slower for WSS and even more when you start doing SSO 
> with capabilities ....).
> 
> so the time of simple non secure and non reliable SOAP messages may be 
> going away but i hope it will not require more and more complex WS-* 
> specs that are harder and harder to understand and work with (WSS and 
> WS-Policy comes to mind ....).
> 
> alek
> 

I am sitting in a WS-RF meeting as I write this. Complexity is rushing 
towards us. Soon the "simplicity" of SOAP will be a distant memory :(

-steve