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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk> on 1999/12/02 22:39:31 UTC
.tgz MIME type?
Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
Cheers,
Ben.
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Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Sun, 5 Dec 1999, Ben Laurie wrote:
> Greg Stein wrote:
>...
> > Well, there *is* a way. It just appears there is not a standard MIME type
> > for it.
> >
> > Call it "application/x-tar-gzip" or something.
> >
> > Worst case, we could say "application/vnd.asf.tar-gzip", but I think this
> > is common, rather than vendor-specific.
>
> Or register it with IANA like proper people do.
Well, yah... implied, silly :-) We are a standards-respecting group, eh?
:-)
And where is Roy to weigh in on stuff like this when you need him? :-)
Cheers,
-g
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Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Ben Laurie wrote:
> > Martin Kraemer wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:39:31PM +0000, Ben Laurie wrote:
> > > > Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
> > >
> > > I'd say the Content-Type is application/x-tar, just like .tar
> > > Only the Content-Encoding is gzip. Or am I mistaken?
> >
> > Hmm. A Content-Encoding of gzip would only be appropriate if one
> > expected the client to unzip it as it arrived (and magically rename it
> > to .tar?). So I'd say that isn't right.
>
> I agree. Content-Encoding should not be used.
>
> > The Content-Type is, in fact, a compressed tar, but there doesn't seem
> > to be a way to say that.
>
> Well, there *is* a way. It just appears there is not a standard MIME type
> for it.
>
> Call it "application/x-tar-gzip" or something.
>
> Worst case, we could say "application/vnd.asf.tar-gzip", but I think this
> is common, rather than vendor-specific.
Or register it with IANA like proper people do.
Cheers,
Ben.
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Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Greg Stein <gs...@lyra.org>.
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Ben Laurie wrote:
> Martin Kraemer wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:39:31PM +0000, Ben Laurie wrote:
> > > Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
> >
> > I'd say the Content-Type is application/x-tar, just like .tar
> > Only the Content-Encoding is gzip. Or am I mistaken?
>
> Hmm. A Content-Encoding of gzip would only be appropriate if one
> expected the client to unzip it as it arrived (and magically rename it
> to .tar?). So I'd say that isn't right.
I agree. Content-Encoding should not be used.
> The Content-Type is, in fact, a compressed tar, but there doesn't seem
> to be a way to say that.
Well, there *is* a way. It just appears there is not a standard MIME type
for it.
Call it "application/x-tar-gzip" or something.
Worst case, we could say "application/vnd.asf.tar-gzip", but I think this
is common, rather than vendor-specific.
Cheers,
-g
--
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Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Ben Laurie <be...@algroup.co.uk>.
Martin Kraemer wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:39:31PM +0000, Ben Laurie wrote:
> > Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
>
> I'd say the Content-Type is application/x-tar, just like .tar
> Only the Content-Encoding is gzip. Or am I mistaken?
Hmm. A Content-Encoding of gzip would only be appropriate if one
expected the client to unzip it as it arrived (and magically rename it
to .tar?). So I'd say that isn't right.
The Content-Type is, in fact, a compressed tar, but there doesn't seem
to be a way to say that.
Cheers,
Ben.
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who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
first group; there was less competition there."
- Indira Gandhi
Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Martin Kraemer <Ma...@mch.sni.de>.
On Thu, Dec 02, 1999 at 09:39:31PM +0000, Ben Laurie wrote:
> Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
I'd say the Content-Type is application/x-tar, just like .tar
Only the Content-Encoding is gzip. Or am I mistaken?
Martin
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Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Manoj Kasichainula <ma...@io.com>.
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 02:25:39PM -0700, Cade Cairns wrote:
> According to my MIME types file, it should be application/x-gtar.
Are you sure that's not just GNU tar, as opposed to tar with gnuzip?
That was my impression.
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Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Peter W <pe...@usa.net>.
At 2:25pm Dec 3, 1999, Cade Cairns wrote:
> According to my MIME types file, it should be application/x-gtar.
Isn't that for "gtar" (GNU tar?), not "gz"? It's an interesting question,
the idea of multipart subtypes. Quick glances at RFC's 2045 and 2046
suggest something like this for .tgz / .tar.gz
Content-Type: application/x-tar; encoding="gzip"
or some other "parameter" to better describe this instance of what is, at
its heart, a tar file. Both Netscape 4.7 and MSIE 4.0 seem happy to accept
such additional parameters, though they don't know what they mean. I guess
they shouldn't, if such a parameter is not already defined. :-(
AFAIK, the authoritative list of official MIME types is
http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/media-types/media-types
Anybody else think a bunch of these subtypes like "x-tar" ought to be
officially proposed as "tar" or "vnd.gnu-tar" or something? (Of course
that would break exsiting browsers, but looking forward, if we define
them, maybe the browsers will catch up...)
-Peter
> On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Ben Laurie wrote:
>
> > Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
Re: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Cade Cairns <ca...@moonlight.ca>.
According to my MIME types file, it should be application/x-gtar.
-Cade Cairns
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Ben Laurie wrote:
> Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben.
>
RE: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Koen Holtman <kh...@mail.cern.ch>.
At the risk of saying the obvious:
.tgz is gzipped tar, this extension is popular in the Linux world, maybe
elsewhere too. When you download a .tgz from the web you usually want to
save it directly to disk and use 'tar zxvf' on it later. The best MIME
type for the HTTP server to use is therefore application/octet-stream. A
content-type of application/x-tar and content-encoding of gzip will
usually make the browser do the wrong thing.
Koen.
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Vincent Janelle wrote:
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> Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ben.
>
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RE: .tgz MIME type?
Posted by Vincent Janelle <vj...@virtualynx.com>.
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Subject: .tgz MIME type?
Should it be set to application/octet-stream? Or what?
Cheers,
Ben.
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those
who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in
the
first group; there was less competition there."
- Indira Gandhi
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