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[GitHub] [netbeans] errael opened a new issue, #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
errael opened a new issue, #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944
### Apache NetBeans version
Apache NetBeans 16 release candidate
### What happened
This is a well known issue. Some recent discussion has shed some light, and mentioned some possibilities. In particular, @sdedic mentions a possible way forward with https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4923#issuecomment-1306981881 and at the end of https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4923#issuecomment-1306104696.
@neilcsmith-net says "I also wonder how Gradle 8 will play into all this." in https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4923#issuecomment-1307502135
The problem as I'm running into it now, for example, there are two projects I work with that pose a versioning problem, one is stuck on Gradle 6.8.3, the other Gradle 5.3.1. That 2nd pins NetBeans to JDK-11. So it's impossible to run NetBeans and take advantage of JDK features/enhancements (like for high DPI displays). On the next NetBeans LTS bump...
### How to reproduce
_No response_
### Did this work correctly in an earlier version?
No / Don't know
### Operating System
Linux harmony 6.0.2-76060002-generic #202210150739~1666289067~22.04~fe0ce53 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu O x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
### JDK
openjdk 11.0.2 2019-01-15 OpenJDK Runtime Environment 18.9 (build 11.0.2+9) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 18.9 (build 11.0.2+9, mixed mode)
### Apache NetBeans packaging
Own source build
### Anything else
_No response_
### Are you willing to submit a pull request?
No
### Code of Conduct
Yes
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[GitHub] [netbeans] sdedic commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
sdedic commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1309226168
yes, see note https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4923#issuecomment-1306104696 (at the end).
BTW the same problem probably applies to Maven (it's run using project's target JDK now). I am sure there are scenarios (e.g. plugin compatibility) when the user needs to run it on a specific Java != NetBeans != target. I don't know whether this is worth a shared / common setting in generic project (java) infra.
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[GitHub] [netbeans] lkishalmi commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
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lkishalmi commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1310918208
We can run the Gradle Wrapper with whatever JDK we wish (AFAIK: Java 8-17 at the moment, with Gradle 7.4). Just need to pass an appropriate `jvm` to the following `java` task: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/blob/c69515d387e3b595909742e64de1ac426e79c513/extide/gradle/build.xml#L61
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[GitHub] [netbeans] errael commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
errael commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1309048745
> I think the point of view really is why are you stuck with those old Gradle versions, what prevents you to upgrade your build system? That should be a regular task every now and then.
I don't disagree. I took the "upgrade your build system" to extremes moving from `ant` to `gradle 7.5.x` earlier this year for my main project; then had to back up to `6.8.x`. I personally would rather be at the bleeding edge. Sadly, it's not always that simple.
I do not own the Gradle 5.3.1 project; I work with it, occasionally make PR's. It's a quiet project and the owners don't like change. The Gradle 6.8.x requirement is due to https://github.com/gradle/gradle/issues/15942; Gradle 7 removed some `JavaToolChainInternal` API (Gradle changing internal API stuff causing problems, sound familiar?) so I'm stuck until Gradle cleans up their compiler/toolchain API.
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[GitHub] [netbeans] mbien commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
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mbien commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1310590395
is the error message sufficient to inform the user what the problem is? Or is it some ASM or linkage error?
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[GitHub] [netbeans] lkishalmi closed issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
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lkishalmi closed issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944
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[GitHub] [netbeans] lkishalmi commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
lkishalmi commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1308993990
Well, this is not a bug, but a limitation of the Gradle Tooling API provided by Gradle.
I think the point of view really is why are you stuck with those old Gradle versions, what prevents you to upgrade your build system? That should be a regular task every now and then.
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[GitHub] [netbeans] errael commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
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errael commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1320410883
> Will be fixed as of #4985
Cool. (I guess the "needs:triage" label can be removed from this issue)
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[GitHub] [netbeans] neilcsmith-net commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
neilcsmith-net commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1310059398
> BTW the same problem probably applies to Maven (it's run using project's target JDK now). I am sure there are scenarios (e.g. plugin compatibility) when the user needs to run it on a specific Java != NetBeans != target. I don't know whether this is worth a shared / common setting in generic project (java) infra.
I'm sceptical of how this might be done. Can be achieved in build scripts already? Would need to be done in such a way that running the build on CLI behaves the same. Maybe being able to pass registered platforms as paths in environment variables and/or system properties? Maybe also (in Maven) disabling compile-on-save by default.
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[GitHub] [netbeans] lkishalmi commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
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lkishalmi commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1309215333
Thanks Ernie, for being content to bugging this much!
It seems I've lived with the misconception, that JavaHome can't be set on build action to retireve the project info for years. I just got angry enough to link that proof here, so it is a limitation in Gradle, when it popped into my eye, that indeed the Java home can be set on `BuildActionExecuter`. That would resolve this issue.
I have that tested with a raw patch and seems to be working. It wouldn't be a hard change, however a fully working patch is beyond the NB16, but can be expected for early NB17 releases.
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[GitHub] [netbeans] lkishalmi commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
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lkishalmi commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1320400355
Will be fixed as of #4985
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[GitHub] [netbeans] errael commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
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errael commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1309058933
> Well, this is not a bug
I disagree, `Gradle` can't be blamed for design decisions made by the `NetBeans` team. It was probably the right thing to do at the time (NetBeans does tend to do a right thing).
I'm speaking without a good understanding of all the underlying issues, what's possible and with how much effort. It may be that this bug is too much work to fix, and so it won't be fixed; but that doesn't mean it's not a bug.
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[GitHub] [netbeans] errael commented on issue #4944: Gradle projects dictate NetBeans' JDK runtime
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
errael commented on issue #4944:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/issues/4944#issuecomment-1309258988
> I have that tested with a raw patch and seems to be working. It wouldn't be a hard change, however a fully working patch is beyond the NB16, but can be expected for early NB17 releases.
That's great news. I never expected NB16; when asked for NetBeans version, NB16-RC was the closest
> for being contempt, bugging this much!
(I'm glad I toned it down)
I admit that when @sdedic said
```
volunteers to approach Gradle people with a kindly formulated sugggestion?
```
My first thought was that I probably wasn't the best choice.
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