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Posted to dev@ignite.apache.org by Юрий <ju...@gmail.com> on 2018/12/20 12:19:01 UTC
Query history statistics API
Hi Igniters,
As of now we have query statistics (
*org.apache.ignite.IgniteCache#queryMetrics*) , but it's look a little bit
wrong, due to at least few reasons:
1) Duration execution it just time between start execution and return
cursor to client and doesn't include all life time of query.
2) It doesn't know about multistatement queries. Such queries participate
in statistics as single query without splitting.
3) API to access the statistics expose as depend on cache, however query
don't have such dependency.
I want to create parallel similar realization as we already have.
But it should fix all above mistakes:
1) Use new infrastructure of tracking running queries developed under
IGNITE-10621 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10621> and
update statistics when query really finished, so we will have real time of
execution.
2) The new infrastructure support multistatement queries. And all part of
such queries will be tracked independent each other.
3) Expose API on upper level then it placed now. Seems it should be on
Ignite level. But I'm not fully sure.
Old API will be marked as deprecated and could be deleted further, may be
in 3.0 version.
I created the corresponding JIRA ticket - IGNITE-10754
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-10754>
Please give me some recommendation for right place for expose the API to
don't have misunderstanding in future.
WDYT, do you have additional proposal for such deal?
--
Живи с улыбкой! :D
Re: Query history statistics API
Posted by Denis Magda <dm...@apache.org>.
Yuri, Vladimir,
How expensive will it be to have the history enabled by default? For
instance, let's take the running queries mechanics as an example, what is
the performance impact the did?
As for the running queries, Yuri, if it's completed please send a summary
to the relevant discussion explaining how it will be used by the end user.
Plus, it might be a right time to restart our KILL command conversation, we
haven't come to an agreement in regards the syntax.
--
Denis
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:34 AM Юрий <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Vladimir, thanks for your expert opinion.
>
> I have some thoughts about 5 point.
> I tried to find how it works for Oracle and PG:
>
> *PG*: keep by default 1000 (can be configured) statements without and
> discard the least-executed statements. Update statistics is asynchronous
> process and statistics may have lag.
>
> *Oracle*: use shared pool for historical data and can evict records with
> min time of last execution in case free space at shared pool is not enough
> for a data which can be related not only historical statistics. So seems
> also separate asynchronous process (information about it so small).
>
>
> Unfortunately I could not find information about big workload and how it
> handled for these databases. However We could see that both of vendors use
> asynchronous statistic processing.
>
>
> I see few variants how we can handle very high workload.
>
> First part of variants use asynchronous model with separate thread which
> should take elements to update stats from a queue:
> 1) We blocking on overlimited queue and wait when capacity will be enough
> to put new element.
>
> + We have all actual statistics
> - End of our query execution can be blocked.
>
> 2) Discard statistics for ended query in case queue is full.
>
> + Very fast for current query
> - We lose part of statistics.
>
> 3) Do full clean of statistic's queue.
>
> + Fast and freespace for further elements
> - We lose big number of statistic elements.
>
>
> Second part of variants use current approach for queryMetrics. When we have
> some additional capacity for CHM with history + periodical cleanup the Map.
> In case even the additional space is not enough we can :
> 1) Discard statistics for ended query
> 2) Do full clean CHM and discard all gathered information.
>
> First part of variants potentially should work faster due to we can update
> history Map in single thread without contention and put to queue should be
> faster.
>
>
> What do you think? Which of the variant will be prefer or may be you can
> suggest another way to handle potential huge workload?
>
> Also there is one initial question which stay not clear to me - it is right
> place for new API.
>
>
> пт, 21 дек. 2018 г. в 13:05, Vladimir Ozerov <vo...@gridgain.com>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd propose the following approach:
> > 1) Enable history by default. Becuase otherwise users will have to
> restart
> > the node to enable it, or we will have to implement dynamic history
> enable,
> > which is complex thing. Default value should be relatively small yet
> > allowing to accommodate typical workloads. E.g. 1000 entries. This should
> > not put any serious pressure to GC.
> > 2) Split queries by: schema, query, local flag
> > 3) Track only growing values: execution count, error count, minimum
> > duration, maximum duration
> > 4) Implement ability to clear history - JMX, SQL command, whatever (may
> be
> > this is different ticket)
> > 5) History cleanup might be implemented similarly to current approach:
> > store everything in CHM. Periodically check it's size. If it is too big -
> > evict oldest entries. But this should be done with care - under some
> > workloads new queries will be generated very quickly. In this case we
> > should either fallback to synchronous evicts, or do not log history at
> all.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Vladimir.
> > -
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:22 AM Юрий <ju...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Alexey,
> > >
> > > Yes, such property to configuration history size will be added. I think
> > > default value should be 0 and history by default shouldn't be gather at
> > > all, and can be switched on by property in case when it required.
> > >
> > > Currently I planned use the same way to evicting old data as for
> > > queryMetrics - scheduled task will evict will old data by oldest start
> > time
> > > of query.
> > >
> > > Will be gathered statistics for only initial clients queries, so
> internal
> > > queries will not including. For the same queries we will have one
> record
> > in
> > > history with merged statistics.
> > >
> > > All above points just my proposal. Please revert back in case you think
> > > anything should be implemented by another way.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > чт, 20 дек. 2018 г. в 18:23, Alexey Kuznetsov <ak...@apache.org>:
> > >
> > > > Yuriy,
> > > >
> > > > I have several questions:
> > > >
> > > > Are we going to add some properties to cluster configuration for
> > history
> > > > size?
> > > >
> > > > And what will be default history size?
> > > >
> > > > Will the same queries count as same item of historical data?
> > > >
> > > > How we will evict old data that not fit into history?
> > > >
> > > > Will we somehow count "reduce" queries? Or only final "map" ones?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alexey Kuznetsov
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Живи с улыбкой! :D
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Живи с улыбкой! :D
>
Re: Query history statistics API
Posted by Alexey Kuznetsov <ak...@apache.org>.
Yuriy,
I think, for the sake of code simplicity we can track all queries.
in other case we will need to parse SQL text and detect that current query
is the EXPLAIN one.
--
Alexey Kuznetsov
Re: Query history statistics API
Posted by Юрий <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I have question related to subject. How do you think should we track
EXPLAIN queries also? I see reasons as to skip it and as include to history:
pros:
We will have full picture and see all queries.
cons:
Such queries can be considered as investigate/debug/service queries and can
push out real queries.
What is your opinion?
пт, 21 дек. 2018 г. в 19:23, Юрий <ju...@gmail.com>:
> Vladimir, thanks for your expert opinion.
>
> I have some thoughts about 5 point.
> I tried to find how it works for Oracle and PG:
>
> *PG*: keep by default 1000 (can be configured) statements without and
> discard the least-executed statements. Update statistics is asynchronous
> process and statistics may have lag.
>
> *Oracle*: use shared pool for historical data and can evict records with
> min time of last execution in case free space at shared pool is not enough
> for a data which can be related not only historical statistics. So seems
> also separate asynchronous process (information about it so small).
>
>
> Unfortunately I could not find information about big workload and how it
> handled for these databases. However We could see that both of vendors use
> asynchronous statistic processing.
>
>
> I see few variants how we can handle very high workload.
>
> First part of variants use asynchronous model with separate thread which
> should take elements to update stats from a queue:
> 1) We blocking on overlimited queue and wait when capacity will be enough
> to put new element.
>
> + We have all actual statistics
> - End of our query execution can be blocked.
>
> 2) Discard statistics for ended query in case queue is full.
>
> + Very fast for current query
> - We lose part of statistics.
>
> 3) Do full clean of statistic's queue.
>
> + Fast and freespace for further elements
> - We lose big number of statistic elements.
>
>
> Second part of variants use current approach for queryMetrics. When we
> have some additional capacity for CHM with history + periodical cleanup the
> Map. In case even the additional space is not enough we can :
> 1) Discard statistics for ended query
> 2) Do full clean CHM and discard all gathered information.
>
> First part of variants potentially should work faster due to we can update
> history Map in single thread without contention and put to queue should be
> faster.
>
>
> What do you think? Which of the variant will be prefer or may be you can
> suggest another way to handle potential huge workload?
>
> Also there is one initial question which stay not clear to me - it is
> right place for new API.
>
>
> пт, 21 дек. 2018 г. в 13:05, Vladimir Ozerov <vo...@gridgain.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd propose the following approach:
>> 1) Enable history by default. Becuase otherwise users will have to restart
>> the node to enable it, or we will have to implement dynamic history
>> enable,
>> which is complex thing. Default value should be relatively small yet
>> allowing to accommodate typical workloads. E.g. 1000 entries. This should
>> not put any serious pressure to GC.
>> 2) Split queries by: schema, query, local flag
>> 3) Track only growing values: execution count, error count, minimum
>> duration, maximum duration
>> 4) Implement ability to clear history - JMX, SQL command, whatever (may be
>> this is different ticket)
>> 5) History cleanup might be implemented similarly to current approach:
>> store everything in CHM. Periodically check it's size. If it is too big -
>> evict oldest entries. But this should be done with care - under some
>> workloads new queries will be generated very quickly. In this case we
>> should either fallback to synchronous evicts, or do not log history at
>> all.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Vladimir.
>> -
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:22 AM Юрий <ju...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Alexey,
>> >
>> > Yes, such property to configuration history size will be added. I think
>> > default value should be 0 and history by default shouldn't be gather at
>> > all, and can be switched on by property in case when it required.
>> >
>> > Currently I planned use the same way to evicting old data as for
>> > queryMetrics - scheduled task will evict will old data by oldest start
>> time
>> > of query.
>> >
>> > Will be gathered statistics for only initial clients queries, so
>> internal
>> > queries will not including. For the same queries we will have one
>> record in
>> > history with merged statistics.
>> >
>> > All above points just my proposal. Please revert back in case you think
>> > anything should be implemented by another way.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > чт, 20 дек. 2018 г. в 18:23, Alexey Kuznetsov <ak...@apache.org>:
>> >
>> > > Yuriy,
>> > >
>> > > I have several questions:
>> > >
>> > > Are we going to add some properties to cluster configuration for
>> history
>> > > size?
>> > >
>> > > And what will be default history size?
>> > >
>> > > Will the same queries count as same item of historical data?
>> > >
>> > > How we will evict old data that not fit into history?
>> > >
>> > > Will we somehow count "reduce" queries? Or only final "map" ones?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Alexey Kuznetsov
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Живи с улыбкой! :D
>> >
>>
>
>
> --
> Живи с улыбкой! :D
>
--
Живи с улыбкой! :D
Re: Query history statistics API
Posted by Юрий <ju...@gmail.com>.
Vladimir, thanks for your expert opinion.
I have some thoughts about 5 point.
I tried to find how it works for Oracle and PG:
*PG*: keep by default 1000 (can be configured) statements without and
discard the least-executed statements. Update statistics is asynchronous
process and statistics may have lag.
*Oracle*: use shared pool for historical data and can evict records with
min time of last execution in case free space at shared pool is not enough
for a data which can be related not only historical statistics. So seems
also separate asynchronous process (information about it so small).
Unfortunately I could not find information about big workload and how it
handled for these databases. However We could see that both of vendors use
asynchronous statistic processing.
I see few variants how we can handle very high workload.
First part of variants use asynchronous model with separate thread which
should take elements to update stats from a queue:
1) We blocking on overlimited queue and wait when capacity will be enough
to put new element.
+ We have all actual statistics
- End of our query execution can be blocked.
2) Discard statistics for ended query in case queue is full.
+ Very fast for current query
- We lose part of statistics.
3) Do full clean of statistic's queue.
+ Fast and freespace for further elements
- We lose big number of statistic elements.
Second part of variants use current approach for queryMetrics. When we have
some additional capacity for CHM with history + periodical cleanup the Map.
In case even the additional space is not enough we can :
1) Discard statistics for ended query
2) Do full clean CHM and discard all gathered information.
First part of variants potentially should work faster due to we can update
history Map in single thread without contention and put to queue should be
faster.
What do you think? Which of the variant will be prefer or may be you can
suggest another way to handle potential huge workload?
Also there is one initial question which stay not clear to me - it is right
place for new API.
пт, 21 дек. 2018 г. в 13:05, Vladimir Ozerov <vo...@gridgain.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I'd propose the following approach:
> 1) Enable history by default. Becuase otherwise users will have to restart
> the node to enable it, or we will have to implement dynamic history enable,
> which is complex thing. Default value should be relatively small yet
> allowing to accommodate typical workloads. E.g. 1000 entries. This should
> not put any serious pressure to GC.
> 2) Split queries by: schema, query, local flag
> 3) Track only growing values: execution count, error count, minimum
> duration, maximum duration
> 4) Implement ability to clear history - JMX, SQL command, whatever (may be
> this is different ticket)
> 5) History cleanup might be implemented similarly to current approach:
> store everything in CHM. Periodically check it's size. If it is too big -
> evict oldest entries. But this should be done with care - under some
> workloads new queries will be generated very quickly. In this case we
> should either fallback to synchronous evicts, or do not log history at all.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Vladimir.
> -
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:22 AM Юрий <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Alexey,
> >
> > Yes, such property to configuration history size will be added. I think
> > default value should be 0 and history by default shouldn't be gather at
> > all, and can be switched on by property in case when it required.
> >
> > Currently I planned use the same way to evicting old data as for
> > queryMetrics - scheduled task will evict will old data by oldest start
> time
> > of query.
> >
> > Will be gathered statistics for only initial clients queries, so internal
> > queries will not including. For the same queries we will have one record
> in
> > history with merged statistics.
> >
> > All above points just my proposal. Please revert back in case you think
> > anything should be implemented by another way.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > чт, 20 дек. 2018 г. в 18:23, Alexey Kuznetsov <ak...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Yuriy,
> > >
> > > I have several questions:
> > >
> > > Are we going to add some properties to cluster configuration for
> history
> > > size?
> > >
> > > And what will be default history size?
> > >
> > > Will the same queries count as same item of historical data?
> > >
> > > How we will evict old data that not fit into history?
> > >
> > > Will we somehow count "reduce" queries? Or only final "map" ones?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexey Kuznetsov
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Живи с улыбкой! :D
> >
>
--
Живи с улыбкой! :D
Re: Query history statistics API
Posted by Vladimir Ozerov <vo...@gridgain.com>.
Hi,
I'd propose the following approach:
1) Enable history by default. Becuase otherwise users will have to restart
the node to enable it, or we will have to implement dynamic history enable,
which is complex thing. Default value should be relatively small yet
allowing to accommodate typical workloads. E.g. 1000 entries. This should
not put any serious pressure to GC.
2) Split queries by: schema, query, local flag
3) Track only growing values: execution count, error count, minimum
duration, maximum duration
4) Implement ability to clear history - JMX, SQL command, whatever (may be
this is different ticket)
5) History cleanup might be implemented similarly to current approach:
store everything in CHM. Periodically check it's size. If it is too big -
evict oldest entries. But this should be done with care - under some
workloads new queries will be generated very quickly. In this case we
should either fallback to synchronous evicts, or do not log history at all.
Thoughts?
Vladimir.
-
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 11:22 AM Юрий <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alexey,
>
> Yes, such property to configuration history size will be added. I think
> default value should be 0 and history by default shouldn't be gather at
> all, and can be switched on by property in case when it required.
>
> Currently I planned use the same way to evicting old data as for
> queryMetrics - scheduled task will evict will old data by oldest start time
> of query.
>
> Will be gathered statistics for only initial clients queries, so internal
> queries will not including. For the same queries we will have one record in
> history with merged statistics.
>
> All above points just my proposal. Please revert back in case you think
> anything should be implemented by another way.
>
>
>
>
>
> чт, 20 дек. 2018 г. в 18:23, Alexey Kuznetsov <ak...@apache.org>:
>
> > Yuriy,
> >
> > I have several questions:
> >
> > Are we going to add some properties to cluster configuration for history
> > size?
> >
> > And what will be default history size?
> >
> > Will the same queries count as same item of historical data?
> >
> > How we will evict old data that not fit into history?
> >
> > Will we somehow count "reduce" queries? Or only final "map" ones?
> >
> > --
> > Alexey Kuznetsov
> >
>
>
> --
> Живи с улыбкой! :D
>
Re: Query history statistics API
Posted by Юрий <ju...@gmail.com>.
Alexey,
Yes, such property to configuration history size will be added. I think
default value should be 0 and history by default shouldn't be gather at
all, and can be switched on by property in case when it required.
Currently I planned use the same way to evicting old data as for
queryMetrics - scheduled task will evict will old data by oldest start time
of query.
Will be gathered statistics for only initial clients queries, so internal
queries will not including. For the same queries we will have one record in
history with merged statistics.
All above points just my proposal. Please revert back in case you think
anything should be implemented by another way.
чт, 20 дек. 2018 г. в 18:23, Alexey Kuznetsov <ak...@apache.org>:
> Yuriy,
>
> I have several questions:
>
> Are we going to add some properties to cluster configuration for history
> size?
>
> And what will be default history size?
>
> Will the same queries count as same item of historical data?
>
> How we will evict old data that not fit into history?
>
> Will we somehow count "reduce" queries? Or only final "map" ones?
>
> --
> Alexey Kuznetsov
>
--
Живи с улыбкой! :D
Re: Query history statistics API
Posted by Alexey Kuznetsov <ak...@apache.org>.
Yuriy,
I have several questions:
Are we going to add some properties to cluster configuration for history
size?
And what will be default history size?
Will the same queries count as same item of historical data?
How we will evict old data that not fit into history?
Will we somehow count "reduce" queries? Or only final "map" ones?
--
Alexey Kuznetsov