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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by karan malhi <ka...@gmail.com> on 2006/02/28 18:42:57 UTC
assigned modules
How would I know what modules/classes are being worked upon already. I
know JIRA is one place to look into, but it may not show a complete
picture until an issue is created for a module. Is there a list i.e.
spreadsheet or a wiki page where we have list of modules and volunteers
working on that?
--
Karan Singh
Re: assigned modules
Posted by Tim Ellison <t....@gmail.com>.
Sounds good -- I don't know if people have already seen the classlib
status page [1] which gives a very broad view of what's happening; and
(as you point out) the JAPI tool output [2] that gives a very detailed view.
The tools we need are not reflected in those lists yet, though there has
been some discussion about them on the list. There are a number of
tests for existing code coming in HARMONY-57, but more tests and
experiences running apps would also be useful.
Regards,
Tim
[1]
http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/status.html
[2] http://www.kaffe.org/~stuart/japi/htmlout/h-jdk14-harmony
Erik Axel Nielsen wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have been thinking about this for a while. The reason is that I would
> like to contribute but as others have noted before, it's a little
> difficult to see where to start.The work of Stuart Ballard [1] made
> this a little bit easer. The problem that remains is that sometimes
> there is a big work being done within a company (IBM/Intel) which is
> invisible to the world and "suddenly" gets contributed. Another
> possibility is that a big contribution is up for voting. (There is one
> due now right?) For us mere mortals (not full-time employed on the
> Harmony project) both these cases are a problem since it's sometimes
> difficult to follow the list. (Or am I only speaking for myself?)
>
> Anyway, I propose that we make a page (I can do it or help doing it)
> where this information should be posted. It should contain:
>
> 1) A breakdown of the classlib (exactly like [1] IMHO) and possibly the
> VM's into 'bullets'
>
> 2) For each of these bullets a status:
> - "Done" We think it is done
> - "Under development", somebody is looking into it. This doesn't mean
> that person/group "owns" the module, but it's who to ask if you want to
> contribute
> - "Being voted on" On it's way
> - "Available" (Much more inviting for others than "not done" :)
>
> 3) Other info perhaps? Or maybe nice colouring or whatever....
>
> This information will probably be most useful to people that would like
> to contribute a small part to the project (like me). But I think that
> there are more out there eager to help than the few that have raised
> their voices on this list.
>
> What do people think?
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik Axel Nielsen
> VU - Amsterdam
>
> [1] http://www.kaffe.org/~stuart/japi/htmlout/h-jdk14-harmony
>
>
>
> Quoting karan malhi <ka...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Yes I am interested in documenting this thing. I dont know the best
>> way
>> to do it, but I was thinking if everybody could send in the following
>> information:
>> 1. Name
>> 2. Module and classes working on
>> Then I can create a simple wiki page with the above information.
>> However, it would be very difficult for me to keep the page updated,
>> so
>> I guess, it would be the responsibility of each contributor to update
>> that wiki page if he/she starts/stops working on a new module/class.
>>
>> Here is an example of what I am talking of. We could do something
>> similar, though not exactly the same format.
>>
>> http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/AllTheOtherTests
>>
>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>
>>> We actually don't assign things because we don't want to create
>>> feelings of territory.
>>>
>>> That said, if someone is working in an area, it's courteous to show
>>> some deference in order to avoid commit clashes :)
>>>
>>> However, I think your question is different - we don't have a full
>>> classlibrary map, and that would be nice.
>>>
>>> There is some info on the wiki already. Are you interested in
>>> producing one suitable for the website?
>>>
>>> geir
>>>
>>> karan malhi wrote:
>>>
>>>> How would I know what modules/classes are being worked upon
>> already.
>>>> I know JIRA is one place to look into, but it may not show a
>> complete
>>>> picture until an issue is created for a module. Is there a list
>> i.e.
>>>> spreadsheet or a wiki page where we have list of modules and
>>>> volunteers working on that?
>>>>
>> --
>> Karan Singh
>>
>
>
>
>
--
Tim Ellison (t.p.ellison@gmail.com)
IBM Java technology centre, UK.
Re: assigned modules
Posted by Erik Axel Nielsen <er...@stud.ntnu.no>.
Hi
I have been thinking about this for a while. The reason is that I would
like to contribute but as others have noted before, it's a little
difficult to see where to start.The work of Stuart Ballard [1] made
this a little bit easer. The problem that remains is that sometimes
there is a big work being done within a company (IBM/Intel) which is
invisible to the world and "suddenly" gets contributed. Another
possibility is that a big contribution is up for voting. (There is one
due now right?) For us mere mortals (not full-time employed on the
Harmony project) both these cases are a problem since it's sometimes
difficult to follow the list. (Or am I only speaking for myself?)
Anyway, I propose that we make a page (I can do it or help doing it)
where this information should be posted. It should contain:
1) A breakdown of the classlib (exactly like [1] IMHO) and possibly the
VM's into 'bullets'
2) For each of these bullets a status:
- "Done" We think it is done
- "Under development", somebody is looking into it. This doesn't mean
that person/group "owns" the module, but it's who to ask if you want to
contribute
- "Being voted on" On it's way
- "Available" (Much more inviting for others than "not done" :)
3) Other info perhaps? Or maybe nice colouring or whatever....
This information will probably be most useful to people that would like
to contribute a small part to the project (like me). But I think that
there are more out there eager to help than the few that have raised
their voices on this list.
What do people think?
Regards,
Erik Axel Nielsen
VU - Amsterdam
[1] http://www.kaffe.org/~stuart/japi/htmlout/h-jdk14-harmony
Quoting karan malhi <ka...@gmail.com>:
> Yes I am interested in documenting this thing. I dont know the best
> way
> to do it, but I was thinking if everybody could send in the following
> information:
> 1. Name
> 2. Module and classes working on
> Then I can create a simple wiki page with the above information.
> However, it would be very difficult for me to keep the page updated,
> so
> I guess, it would be the responsibility of each contributor to update
> that wiki page if he/she starts/stops working on a new module/class.
>
> Here is an example of what I am talking of. We could do something
> similar, though not exactly the same format.
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/AllTheOtherTests
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
> > We actually don't assign things because we don't want to create
> > feelings of territory.
> >
> > That said, if someone is working in an area, it's courteous to show
> > some deference in order to avoid commit clashes :)
> >
> > However, I think your question is different - we don't have a full
> > classlibrary map, and that would be nice.
> >
> > There is some info on the wiki already. Are you interested in
> > producing one suitable for the website?
> >
> > geir
> >
> > karan malhi wrote:
> >
> >> How would I know what modules/classes are being worked upon
> already.
> >> I know JIRA is one place to look into, but it may not show a
> complete
> >> picture until an issue is created for a module. Is there a list
> i.e.
> >> spreadsheet or a wiki page where we have list of modules and
> >> volunteers working on that?
> >>
> >
>
> --
> Karan Singh
>
Re: assigned modules
Posted by karan malhi <ka...@gmail.com>.
Yes I am interested in documenting this thing. I dont know the best way
to do it, but I was thinking if everybody could send in the following
information:
1. Name
2. Module and classes working on
Then I can create a simple wiki page with the above information.
However, it would be very difficult for me to keep the page updated, so
I guess, it would be the responsibility of each contributor to update
that wiki page if he/she starts/stops working on a new module/class.
Here is an example of what I am talking of. We could do something
similar, though not exactly the same format.
http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/AllTheOtherTests
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> We actually don't assign things because we don't want to create
> feelings of territory.
>
> That said, if someone is working in an area, it's courteous to show
> some deference in order to avoid commit clashes :)
>
> However, I think your question is different - we don't have a full
> classlibrary map, and that would be nice.
>
> There is some info on the wiki already. Are you interested in
> producing one suitable for the website?
>
> geir
>
> karan malhi wrote:
>
>> How would I know what modules/classes are being worked upon already.
>> I know JIRA is one place to look into, but it may not show a complete
>> picture until an issue is created for a module. Is there a list i.e.
>> spreadsheet or a wiki page where we have list of modules and
>> volunteers working on that?
>>
>
--
Karan Singh
Re: assigned modules
Posted by Richard Liang <ri...@gmail.com>.
Hello Nathan,
Welcome :-)
However, as you may know, it may be difficult to implement annotation
and instrument as we have no Java 5.0 compatible VM which can be used by
Harmony.
Also, there are prefs implementation in Harmony-88. :-)
Richard Liang
China Software Development Lab, IBM
Nathan Beyer wrote:
> Along these lines, according to the "componentization" page [1] on the Wiki,
> there are a number of missing projects from the classlib. Would it be of
> value to at least stub out some of these major components? Perhaps things
> like Annotation, Instrument, Lang-Management, RMI, Concurrent, Prefs? It's
> not glamorous work, but I'd be willing to do some of it. I didn't know if
> there were any possible donations on the horizon that we might be waiting
> for.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/componentization
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:07 PM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: assigned modules
>
> We actually don't assign things because we don't want to create feelings
> of territory.
>
> That said, if someone is working in an area, it's courteous to show some
> deference in order to avoid commit clashes :)
>
> However, I think your question is different - we don't have a full
> classlibrary map, and that would be nice.
>
> There is some info on the wiki already. Are you interested in producing
> one suitable for the website?
>
> geir
>
> karan malhi wrote:
>
>> How would I know what modules/classes are being worked upon already. I
>> know JIRA is one place to look into, but it may not show a complete
>> picture until an issue is created for a module. Is there a list i.e.
>> spreadsheet or a wiki page where we have list of modules and volunteers
>> working on that?
>>
>>
>
>
>
RE: assigned modules
Posted by Nathan Beyer <nb...@kc.rr.com>.
Along these lines, according to the "componentization" page [1] on the Wiki,
there are a number of missing projects from the classlib. Would it be of
value to at least stub out some of these major components? Perhaps things
like Annotation, Instrument, Lang-Management, RMI, Concurrent, Prefs? It's
not glamorous work, but I'd be willing to do some of it. I didn't know if
there were any possible donations on the horizon that we might be waiting
for.
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/componentization
-----Original Message-----
From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:geir@pobox.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:07 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: assigned modules
We actually don't assign things because we don't want to create feelings
of territory.
That said, if someone is working in an area, it's courteous to show some
deference in order to avoid commit clashes :)
However, I think your question is different - we don't have a full
classlibrary map, and that would be nice.
There is some info on the wiki already. Are you interested in producing
one suitable for the website?
geir
karan malhi wrote:
> How would I know what modules/classes are being worked upon already. I
> know JIRA is one place to look into, but it may not show a complete
> picture until an issue is created for a module. Is there a list i.e.
> spreadsheet or a wiki page where we have list of modules and volunteers
> working on that?
>
Re: assigned modules
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
We actually don't assign things because we don't want to create feelings
of territory.
That said, if someone is working in an area, it's courteous to show some
deference in order to avoid commit clashes :)
However, I think your question is different - we don't have a full
classlibrary map, and that would be nice.
There is some info on the wiki already. Are you interested in producing
one suitable for the website?
geir
karan malhi wrote:
> How would I know what modules/classes are being worked upon already. I
> know JIRA is one place to look into, but it may not show a complete
> picture until an issue is created for a module. Is there a list i.e.
> spreadsheet or a wiki page where we have list of modules and volunteers
> working on that?
>