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Posted to adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org by Michael Trompertz <Mi...@feltengmbh.de> on 2007/03/15 09:16:47 UTC
Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces
Hello
Can anybody eplain the Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces.
What I found out is that Oracle donated ADF Faces to Apache in summer
2006. The project was renamed to Trinidad. But it seems that both
projetcs are developed further indepent from each other.
The ADF Faces needs a license for usage while Trinidad does not.
Is this right so far?
Thanks in advance
Michael
Re: Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hello ,
On 3/15/07, Michael Trompertz <Mi...@feltengmbh.de> wrote:
> Hello Matthias
>
> Thanks for your quick answer. The demo looks very exciting.
> But is/will be the ADF Faces Rich Client also under Apache 2.0 license and what about
at javaone 2006, there was an announcement, that these libs will be
open source, some day, somehow:
http://otazi.blogspot.com/2006/06/oracles-ajax-enabled-contribution.html
Please read also this one:
http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40myfaces.apache.org/msg21006.html
(discussion, ONLY on dev@myfaces.apache.org)
> the different ADF Faces downloads offered by Oracle (with JDeveloper or stand alone). I
> have the impression that they are _not_ Apache 2.0 licensed.
> But that means there are at least two different streams of development which have the same origin but was separated in last summer and are now independent from each other. Am I right (I hope not!)?
Well, I'd consider Trinidad is a *snapshot* of the ADF Faces, used in
JDev 10.1.3.0 and the development is ongoing, by this community. In
JDEV 10.1.3.x there will be ADF Faces. The next JDev 11 will use RCF,
which is based on Apache Trinidad. So, basically ADF Faces (currently
download able from Oracle.com) and Trinidad are two projects. However,
it is possible to use Trinidad in JDev:
http://www.orablogs.com/fnimphius/archives/001832.html
For further questions on JDev 11, ADF Faces etc, please use the Oracle forums:
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=83
HTH,
Matthias
>
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mwessendorf@gmail.com [mailto:mwessendorf@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Matthias Wessendorf
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. März 2007 10:27
> An: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces
>
> Hello Michael,
>
> there is a ADF Faces Rich Client, currently under development, see here:
> http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/viewlets/1013/richclient_viewlet_swf.html
>
> That stuff uses Trinidad features (like framework or build feature).
>
> Trinidad is Apache 2.0 license based, so you can even fork it and sell the *enhancements* as closed source, no problems with that! The good on Apache 2.0 license is, it is damn liberal ;)
>
>
> Does that help ?
>
> -M
>
> On 3/15/07, Michael Trompertz <Mi...@feltengmbh.de> wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > Can anybody eplain the Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces.
> > What I found out is that Oracle donated ADF Faces to Apache in summer
> > 2006. The project was renamed to Trinidad. But it seems that both
> > projetcs are developed further indepent from each other.
> > The ADF Faces needs a license for usage while Trinidad does not.
> >
> > Is this right so far?
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
> http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
AW: Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces
Posted by Michael Trompertz <Mi...@feltengmbh.de>.
Hello Matthias
Thanks for your quick answer. The demo looks very exciting.
But is/will be the ADF Faces Rich Client also under Apache 2.0 license and what about the different ADF Faces downloads offered by Oracle (with JDeveloper or stand alone). I have the impression that they are _not_ Apache 2.0 licensed.
But that means there are at least two different streams of development which have the same origin but was separated in last summer and are now independent from each other. Am I right (I hope not!)?
Michael
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mwessendorf@gmail.com [mailto:mwessendorf@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Matthias Wessendorf
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. März 2007 10:27
An: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces
Hello Michael,
there is a ADF Faces Rich Client, currently under development, see here:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/viewlets/1013/richclient_viewlet_swf.html
That stuff uses Trinidad features (like framework or build feature).
Trinidad is Apache 2.0 license based, so you can even fork it and sell the *enhancements* as closed source, no problems with that! The good on Apache 2.0 license is, it is damn liberal ;)
Does that help ?
-M
On 3/15/07, Michael Trompertz <Mi...@feltengmbh.de> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Can anybody eplain the Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces.
> What I found out is that Oracle donated ADF Faces to Apache in summer
> 2006. The project was renamed to Trinidad. But it seems that both
> projetcs are developed further indepent from each other.
> The ADF Faces needs a license for usage while Trinidad does not.
>
> Is this right so far?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Michael
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Hello Michael,
there is a ADF Faces Rich Client, currently under development, see here:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/viewlets/1013/richclient_viewlet_swf.html
That stuff uses Trinidad features (like framework or build feature).
Trinidad is Apache 2.0 license based, so you can even fork it and sell
the *enhancements* as closed source, no problems with that! The good
on Apache 2.0 license is, it is damn liberal ;)
Does that help ?
-M
On 3/15/07, Michael Trompertz <Mi...@feltengmbh.de> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Can anybody eplain the Relation between Trinidad and ADF Faces.
> What I found out is that Oracle donated ADF Faces to Apache in summer
> 2006. The project was renamed to Trinidad. But it seems that both
> projetcs are developed further indepent from each other.
> The ADF Faces needs a license for usage while Trinidad does not.
>
> Is this right so far?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Michael
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
http://tinyurl.com/fmywh
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com