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[jira] [Created] (KARAF-1966) Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0

Jean-Baptiste Onofré created KARAF-1966:
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             Summary: Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0
                 Key: KARAF-1966
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1966
             Project: Karaf
          Issue Type: Dependency upgrade
          Components: karaf-webcontainer
            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
            Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
             Fix For: 3.0.0


In order to get all bug fixes, and especially the great work by Achim about Tomcat support, we are going to update to Pax-Web 3.0 in Karaf 3.0.0.

A first update to SNAPSHOT (for testing purpose) would be interesting.

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[jira] [Commented] (KARAF-1966) Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0

Posted by "Achim Nierbeck (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Achim Nierbeck commented on KARAF-1966:
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Hi Brian, 

well I know that it's always a balance, but to be honest such changes, as going for a 3.0.0 Pax-Web with CDI support (forget about Tomcat right now)
and such is best taken by a 3.0 a major change then any other version. 

People are already requesting 2.1.x (Pax-Web) for the 2.3.x karaf line. 
So I really don't want people to miss this part for the 3.0 of Karaf since the alternative would be to wait for a 4 or 3.x maybe and that one wasn't really thought of yet. So even since it failed for you, it's better to fail now then later on, when everything is "released". 
And TBH since I know what stuff was changed I'm not sure a 2.1.1 of Pax-Web wouldn't be affected either. 
So if you could give me a detailed description on what fails I can work a iTest out of it and fix it. 
                
> Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: KARAF-1966
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1966
>             Project: Karaf
>          Issue Type: Dependency upgrade
>          Components: karaf-webcontainer
>            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>            Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             Fix For: 3.0.0
>
>
> In order to get all bug fixes, and especially the great work by Achim about Tomcat support, we are going to update to Pax-Web 3.0 in Karaf 3.0.0.
> A first update to SNAPSHOT (for testing purpose) would be interesting.

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[jira] [Commented] (KARAF-1966) Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0

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Jean-Baptiste Onofré commented on KARAF-1966:
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I updated to Pax Web 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT.
                
> Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: KARAF-1966
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1966
>             Project: Karaf
>          Issue Type: Dependency upgrade
>          Components: karaf-webcontainer
>            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>            Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             Fix For: 3.0.0
>
>
> In order to get all bug fixes, and especially the great work by Achim about Tomcat support, we are going to update to Pax-Web 3.0 in Karaf 3.0.0.
> A first update to SNAPSHOT (for testing purpose) would be interesting.

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[jira] [Commented] (KARAF-1966) Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0

Posted by "Brian Topping (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Brian Topping commented on KARAF-1966:
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Hi Achim,

Yes, I figured that was the case, and it's totally reasonable but there are also people using 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT for development.  The problem isn't that developers can't stay with an older version, but when the dependency soup changes enough that there's a required move to the latest version (like what happened recently with the update to features schema 1.2.0), changes like this update to pax-web can cause the whole system to be completely unusable.  

It's a balance, you know?  For a while there, the release of 3.0.0 was imminent, now it seems a ways out.  Nobody would go into production with it for reasons like this, when the expectations of a release cycle change and they aren't fully communicated, others can get pulled back.  

In my opinion, this is the kind of change that should go into a later release, that is all.

I didn't file on this because I prefer to fix it myself, but I have some stuff to do this weekend already.  

Thanks for the input!  

Brian




                
> Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: KARAF-1966
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1966
>             Project: Karaf
>          Issue Type: Dependency upgrade
>          Components: karaf-webcontainer
>            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>            Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             Fix For: 3.0.0
>
>
> In order to get all bug fixes, and especially the great work by Achim about Tomcat support, we are going to update to Pax-Web 3.0 in Karaf 3.0.0.
> A first update to SNAPSHOT (for testing purpose) would be interesting.

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[jira] [Comment Edited] (KARAF-1966) Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0

Posted by "Achim Nierbeck (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Achim Nierbeck edited comment on KARAF-1966 at 10/28/12 3:03 PM:
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Hi Brian, that's the exact reason to switch to 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT now to find such flaws. 
I'll be real great full if you could open a issue for this at pax-web (with maybe a itest or description of how to reproduce)

To make this easier there is a iTest at Pax-Web for it [WhiteboardResourceFilterIntegrationTest|https://github.com/ops4j/org.ops4j.pax.web/blob/master/itest/src/test/java/org/ops4j/pax/web/itest/WhiteboardResourceFilterIntegrationTest.java] I would really be thankful if you could give me a hint what is missing there ... 
                
      was (Author: achim_nierbeck):
    Hi Brian, that's the exact reason to switch to 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT now to find such flaws. 
I'll be real great full if you could open a issue for this at pax-web (with maybe a itest or description of how to reproduce)

                  
> Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: KARAF-1966
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1966
>             Project: Karaf
>          Issue Type: Dependency upgrade
>          Components: karaf-webcontainer
>            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>            Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             Fix For: 3.0.0
>
>
> In order to get all bug fixes, and especially the great work by Achim about Tomcat support, we are going to update to Pax-Web 3.0 in Karaf 3.0.0.
> A first update to SNAPSHOT (for testing purpose) would be interesting.

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[jira] [Commented] (KARAF-1966) Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0

Posted by "Brian Topping (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Brian Topping commented on KARAF-1966:
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This upgrade has broken ResourceServlet in the whiteboard extender.  It appears there are unit tests for the ResourceServlet, but no integration tests for resources, and probably other aspects of the Karaf integration.

Tomcat support is probably valuable to some new folks, but this change makes the server unusable for existing ones, and I think we should move back to 2.1.0 until such time that Pax Web has better testing for existing use cases.
                
> Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: KARAF-1966
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1966
>             Project: Karaf
>          Issue Type: Dependency upgrade
>          Components: karaf-webcontainer
>            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>            Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             Fix For: 3.0.0
>
>
> In order to get all bug fixes, and especially the great work by Achim about Tomcat support, we are going to update to Pax-Web 3.0 in Karaf 3.0.0.
> A first update to SNAPSHOT (for testing purpose) would be interesting.

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[jira] [Commented] (KARAF-1966) Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0

Posted by "Achim Nierbeck (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Achim Nierbeck commented on KARAF-1966:
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Hi Brian, that's the exact reason to switch to 3.0.0-SNAPSHOT now to find such flaws. 
I'll be real great full if you could open a issue for this at pax-web (with maybe a itest or description of how to reproduce)

                
> Upgrade to Pax Web 3.0
> ----------------------
>
>                 Key: KARAF-1966
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KARAF-1966
>             Project: Karaf
>          Issue Type: Dependency upgrade
>          Components: karaf-webcontainer
>            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>            Assignee: Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>             Fix For: 3.0.0
>
>
> In order to get all bug fixes, and especially the great work by Achim about Tomcat support, we are going to update to Pax-Web 3.0 in Karaf 3.0.0.
> A first update to SNAPSHOT (for testing purpose) would be interesting.

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