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Deployment Admin implementation

  Hello!

Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems 
that Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and 
Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented  
in Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in 
Virgo and use it with Repository Admin.

Thanks.

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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org>.
On 3/3/11 10:19, Richard S. Hall wrote:
> On 3/3/11 7:08, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>> What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages. 
>> Apache ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a 
>> deployment package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we 
>> never got round to implementing that.
>>
>> A contribution there would definitely help.
>>
>> I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people want.
>
> Better to release it and give it a low version number, then never 
> release it.

Sorry, should be "than never release it." :-)

-> richard

>
> -> richard
>
>> Greetings, Marcel
>>
>>
>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 10:45 , niibasta@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for information.
>>>
>>> When do you plan to make a release? Maybe I can help to make it 
>>> faster? :) Close bugs, f.e.
>>>
>>> On 03.03.2011 12:37, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We in fact have an implementation already in Apache Felix:
>>>>
>>>>    http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/deploymentadmin/
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we have a release yet.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 09:11 +0000 schrieb niibasta@gmail.com:
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It 
>>>>> seems
>>>>> that Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be 
>>>>> implemented
>>>>> in Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>>>>> Virgo and use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
+1

On 4 Mar 2011, at 15:44 , Richard S. Hall wrote:

> It would definitely be better to focus the effort in a single place...
> 
> -> richard
> 
> On 3/4/11 2:59, Clement Escoffier wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We have extended the felix implementation on
>> https://github.com/akquinet/osgi-deployment-admin. We can merge it back.
>> Initially, this implementation was made specifically for OSGi on Android,
>> but we used it in plain Java too.
>> 
>> The main differences (as far as I remember) are:
>> * support of the undeploy
>> * extension of the deployment admin to support shared bundles (so, if 2 DP
>> contains the same bundle, the bundle is uninstalled only if both are
>> uninstalled) [configurable behavior].
>> * there is a maven plugin as well as a plain java api to create and read
>> deployment packages.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Clement
>> 
>> On 03.03.11 23:11, "Marcel Offermans"<ma...@luminis.nl>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Point taken guys! :)
>>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 17:34 , Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 16:19, Richard S. Hall<he...@ungoverned.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/3/11 7:08, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>>>>> What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages.
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>> ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a
>>>>>> deployment
>>>>>> package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we never got
>>>>>> round to
>>>>>> implementing that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A contribution there would definitely help.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people
>>>>>> want.
>>>>> Better to release it and give it a low version number, then never
>>>>> release
>>>>> it.
>>>> +1
>>> 
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org>.
It would definitely be better to focus the effort in a single place...

-> richard

On 3/4/11 2:59, Clement Escoffier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We have extended the felix implementation on
> https://github.com/akquinet/osgi-deployment-admin. We can merge it back.
> Initially, this implementation was made specifically for OSGi on Android,
> but we used it in plain Java too.
>
> The main differences (as far as I remember) are:
> * support of the undeploy
> * extension of the deployment admin to support shared bundles (so, if 2 DP
> contains the same bundle, the bundle is uninstalled only if both are
> uninstalled) [configurable behavior].
> * there is a maven plugin as well as a plain java api to create and read
> deployment packages.
>
> Regards,
>
> Clement
>
> On 03.03.11 23:11, "Marcel Offermans"<ma...@luminis.nl>  wrote:
>
>> Point taken guys! :)
>>
>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 17:34 , Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 16:19, Richard S. Hall<he...@ungoverned.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 3/3/11 7:08, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>>>> What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages.
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a
>>>>> deployment
>>>>> package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we never got
>>>>> round to
>>>>> implementing that.
>>>>>
>>>>> A contribution there would definitely help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people
>>>>> want.
>>>> Better to release it and give it a low version number, then never
>>>> release
>>>> it.
>>> +1
>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Clement Escoffier <cl...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

We have extended the felix implementation on
https://github.com/akquinet/osgi-deployment-admin. We can merge it back.
Initially, this implementation was made specifically for OSGi on Android,
but we used it in plain Java too.

The main differences (as far as I remember) are:
* support of the undeploy
* extension of the deployment admin to support shared bundles (so, if 2 DP
contains the same bundle, the bundle is uninstalled only if both are
uninstalled) [configurable behavior].
* there is a maven plugin as well as a plain java api to create and read
deployment packages.

Regards,

Clement

On 03.03.11 23:11, "Marcel Offermans" <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:

>Point taken guys! :)
>
>On 3 Mar 2011, at 17:34 , Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 16:19, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org>
>>wrote:
>>> On 3/3/11 7:08, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages.
>>>>Apache
>>>> ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a
>>>>deployment
>>>> package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we never got
>>>>round to
>>>> implementing that.
>>>> 
>>>> A contribution there would definitely help.
>>>> 
>>>> I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people
>>>>want.
>>> 
>>> Better to release it and give it a low version number, then never
>>>release
>>> it.
>> 
>> +1
>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Point taken guys! :)

On 3 Mar 2011, at 17:34 , Guillaume Nodet wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 16:19, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote:
>> On 3/3/11 7:08, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages. Apache
>>> ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a deployment
>>> package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we never got round to
>>> implementing that.
>>> 
>>> A contribution there would definitely help.
>>> 
>>> I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people want.
>> 
>> Better to release it and give it a low version number, then never release
>> it.
> 
> +1


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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 16:19, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote:
> On 3/3/11 7:08, Marcel Offermans wrote:
>>
>> What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages. Apache
>> ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a deployment
>> package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we never got round to
>> implementing that.
>>
>> A contribution there would definitely help.
>>
>> I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people want.
>
> Better to release it and give it a low version number, then never release
> it.

+1

>
> -> richard
>
>> Greetings, Marcel
>>
>>
>> On 3 Mar 2011, at 10:45 , niibasta@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for information.
>>>
>>> When do you plan to make a release? Maybe I can help to make it faster?
>>> :) Close bugs, f.e.
>>>
>>> On 03.03.2011 12:37, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> We in fact have an implementation already in Apache Felix:
>>>>
>>>>   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/deploymentadmin/
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we have a release yet.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 09:11 +0000 schrieb niibasta@gmail.com:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>>>> that Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>>> in Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>>>>> Virgo and use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org>.
On 3/3/11 7:08, Marcel Offermans wrote:
> What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages. Apache ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a deployment package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we never got round to implementing that.
>
> A contribution there would definitely help.
>
> I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people want.

Better to release it and give it a low version number, then never 
release it.

-> richard

> Greetings, Marcel
>
>
> On 3 Mar 2011, at 10:45 , niibasta@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks for information.
>>
>> When do you plan to make a release? Maybe I can help to make it faster? :) Close bugs, f.e.
>>
>> On 03.03.2011 12:37, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We in fact have an implementation already in Apache Felix:
>>>
>>>    http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/deploymentadmin/
>>>
>>> I don't think we have a release yet.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 09:11 +0000 schrieb niibasta@gmail.com:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>>> that Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>> in Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>>>> Virgo and use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
What is missing is mainly support to uninstall deployment packages. Apache ACE uses the current implementation, but it never uninstalls a deployment package (it replaces it with a new, empty version) so we never got round to implementing that.

A contribution there would definitely help.

I also don't mind releasing a version as is, if that's what people want.

Greetings, Marcel


On 3 Mar 2011, at 10:45 , niibasta@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for information.
> 
> When do you plan to make a release? Maybe I can help to make it faster? :) Close bugs, f.e.
> 
> On 03.03.2011 12:37, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> We in fact have an implementation already in Apache Felix:
>> 
>>   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/deploymentadmin/
>> 
>> I don't think we have a release yet.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Felix
>> 
>> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 09:11 +0000 schrieb niibasta@gmail.com:
>>> Hello!
>>> 
>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>> that Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>> in Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>>> Virgo and use it with Repository Admin.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "niibasta@gmail.com" <ni...@gmail.com>.
  Thanks for information.

When do you plan to make a release? Maybe I can help to make it faster? 
:) Close bugs, f.e.

On 03.03.2011 12:37, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We in fact have an implementation already in Apache Felix:
>
>    http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/deploymentadmin/
>
> I don't think we have a release yet.
>
> Regards
> Felix
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 09:11 +0000 schrieb niibasta@gmail.com:
>> Hello!
>>
>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>> that Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>> in Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>> Virgo and use it with Repository Admin.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@adobe.com>.
Hi,

We in fact have an implementation already in Apache Felix:

  http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/trunk/deploymentadmin/

I don't think we have a release yet.

Regards
Felix

Am Donnerstag, den 03.03.2011, 09:11 +0000 schrieb niibasta@gmail.com: 
> Hello!
> 
> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems 
> that Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and 
> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented  
> in Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in 
> Virgo and use it with Repository Admin.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "niibasta@gmail.com" <ni...@gmail.com>.
  I use "felix.systembundle.activators" property. Unfortunately, this 
property can be set only in runtime, because it contains list of 
"BundleActivator" instances. I've implemented custom felix runner where 
I put my system activator.

If Karaf allows somehow to hook default runner with custom system 
activator, It would be great!

On 03.03.2011 13:47, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> Maybe, how do you do that with Felix ?
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation. For
>> example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make Splash
>> screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register custom
>> startup hooks i Karaf?
>>
>> On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>>>
>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>   Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>>> that
>>>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>>   in
>>>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in Virgo
>>>> and
>>>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Maybe, how do you do that with Felix ?

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28, niibasta@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation. For
> example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make Splash
> screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register custom
> startup hooks i Karaf?
>
> On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>>
>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello!
>>>
>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>> that
>>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>  in
>>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in Virgo
>>> and
>>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "niibasta@gmail.com" <ni...@gmail.com>.
  I've just checked it. It works. Thanks for help.

On 03.03.2011 17:53, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> You could write a bundle and inside this bundle have an activator
> displaying the splash window.
> You can configure this bundle to be installed using
> etc/startup.properties, just use a very low start level and it should
> work.  It would not be tied to felix at all this way.
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 15:33, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   I don't need to embed it. I'd like to show splash when Karaf starts, if it
>> is possible :)
>>
>> On 03.03.2011 15:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> Karaf itself isn't really meant to be embedded, so the features stuff
>>> can be reused outside karaf in an embedded Felix.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>   That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation.
>>>> For
>>>> example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make Splash
>>>> screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register custom
>>>> startup hooks i Karaf?
>>>>
>>>> On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>   Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>>>>   in
>>>>>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>>>>>> Virgo
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "niibasta@gmail.com" <ni...@gmail.com>.
  Thanks a lot!

What is the default start level for custom bundles? I've found property 
karaf.systemBundlesStartLevel=50. Is that means that all bundles from 
"system" folder will start on 50th level?

On 03.03.2011 17:53, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> You could write a bundle and inside this bundle have an activator
> displaying the splash window.
> You can configure this bundle to be installed using
> etc/startup.properties, just use a very low start level and it should
> work.  It would not be tied to felix at all this way.
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 15:33, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   I don't need to embed it. I'd like to show splash when Karaf starts, if it
>> is possible :)
>>
>> On 03.03.2011 15:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> Karaf itself isn't really meant to be embedded, so the features stuff
>>> can be reused outside karaf in an embedded Felix.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>   That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation.
>>>> For
>>>> example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make Splash
>>>> screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register custom
>>>> startup hooks i Karaf?
>>>>
>>>> On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>   Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>>>>   in
>>>>>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>>>>>> Virgo
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
You could write a bundle and inside this bundle have an activator
displaying the splash window.
You can configure this bundle to be installed using
etc/startup.properties, just use a very low start level and it should
work.  It would not be tied to felix at all this way.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 15:33, niibasta@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I don't need to embed it. I'd like to show splash when Karaf starts, if it
> is possible :)
>
> On 03.03.2011 15:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>> Karaf itself isn't really meant to be embedded, so the features stuff
>> can be reused outside karaf in an embedded Felix.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation.
>>> For
>>> example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make Splash
>>> screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register custom
>>> startup hooks i Karaf?
>>>
>>> On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>>>> that
>>>>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>>>  in
>>>>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in
>>>>> Virgo
>>>>> and
>>>>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@felix.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@felix.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "niibasta@gmail.com" <ni...@gmail.com>.
  I don't need to embed it. I'd like to show splash when Karaf starts, 
if it is possible :)

On 03.03.2011 15:20, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> Karaf itself isn't really meant to be embedded, so the features stuff
> can be reused outside karaf in an embedded Felix.
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation. For
>> example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make Splash
>> screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register custom
>> startup hooks i Karaf?
>>
>> On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>>>
>>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>   Hello!
>>>>
>>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>>> that
>>>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>>   in
>>>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in Virgo
>>>> and
>>>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Karaf itself isn't really meant to be embedded, so the features stuff
can be reused outside karaf in an embedded Felix.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 11:28, niibasta@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation. For
> example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make Splash
> screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register custom
> startup hooks i Karaf?
>
> On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
>>
>> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>>
>> http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hello!
>>>
>>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems
>>> that
>>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented
>>>  in
>>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in Virgo
>>> and
>>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@felix.apache.org
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>>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by "niibasta@gmail.com" <ni...@gmail.com>.
  That's cool, but my project is very tied to raw felix implementation. 
For example Felix is embedded in some places, because I need to make 
Splash screen and some other UI features during starting. Can I register 
custom startup hooks i Karaf?

On 03.03.2011 12:48, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>    http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
>
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com<ni...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   Hello!
>>
>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems that
>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented  in
>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in Virgo and
>> use it with Repository Admin.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Alasdair Nottingham <no...@apache.org>.
The Aries project also has applications which do similar things, we are also working on subsystems.

Alasdair Nottingham

On 3 Mar 2011, at 09:48, Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
>  http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html
> 
> On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  Hello!
>> 
>> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems that
>> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
>> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented  in
>> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in Virgo and
>> use it with Repository Admin.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: Deployment Admin implementation

Posted by Guillaume Nodet <gn...@gmail.com>.
Closer to plans, I think we have Karaf features, see
  http://karaf.apache.org/manual/2.1.99-SNAPSHOT/users-guide/provisioning.html

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:11, niibasta@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hello!
>
> Is there any closest plans to implement Deployment Admin Spec. It seems that
> Eclipse Virgo already has a common ability (PAR's, Plans and
> Configurations). I'm interesting, if such functions will be implemented  in
> Felix. It would be very useful to implement something like Plan in Virgo and
> use it with Repository Admin.
>
> Thanks.
>
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