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svn commit: r430216 - in /ant/core/trunk: docs/mail.html xdocs/mail.xml

Author: antoine
Date: Wed Aug  9 19:39:42 2006
New Revision: 430216

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=430216&view=rev
Log:
update due to personal experience

Modified:
    ant/core/trunk/docs/mail.html
    ant/core/trunk/xdocs/mail.xml

Modified: ant/core/trunk/docs/mail.html
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ant/core/trunk/docs/mail.html?rev=430216&r1=430215&r2=430216&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- ant/core/trunk/docs/mail.html (original)
+++ ant/core/trunk/docs/mail.html Wed Aug  9 19:39:42 2006
@@ -186,32 +186,15 @@
           <li><a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/">Mailing list Archives</a></li>
         </ul>
                                 <p>To subscribe to a mailinglist use the links below. In your first email you will get some
-      information about working with the list manager <a href="http://www.ezmlm.org/">EZMLM</a>.
-      But <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-user&amp;m=115020655600019&amp;w=2">several times</a>
-      there were problems with unsubscribing from a mailinglist. The problem is that you use another
-      email adress for unsubscribing than for subscribing and ezmlm could not find that adress for
-      deleting from the list. So you have to find out, to which concrete email adress ezmlm is sending
-      the mail. This is visible in the email headers (in Microsoft Outlook via the messages menu
-      "View | Options").
-      <pre>
-      Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
-      ...
-      List-Unsubscribe: &lt;mailto:user-unsubscribe@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      List-Help: &lt;mailto:user-help@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      List-Post: &lt;mailto:user@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      List-Id: "Ant Users List" &lt;user.ant.apache.org&gt;
-      Reply-To: "Ant Users List" &lt;user@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      Delivered-To: mailing list user@ant.apache.org
-      ...
-      Return-Path: user-return-<i>12345-Jan.Materne=me.acme.com</i>@ant.apache.org
-      ...
-      </pre>
-      As you can see, you'll get the help information with each mail, too.
-      But more important is the <i>Return-Path</i>. If you change "return" into "unsubscribe" and you send 
-      an  email to that adress (<tt>user-unsubscribe-12345-Jan.Materne=me.acme.com@ant.apache.org</tt>) 
-      this  will unsubscribe you. 
-      </p>
+      information about working with the list manager <a href="http://www.ezmlm.org/">EZMLM</a>.</p>
                                       <h4 class="subsection">
+        <a name="How to unsubscribe your old email address"></a>
+        How to unsubscribe your old email address
+      </h4>
+                        <p> To stop subscription for the address john@host.domain , send an email to <pre>dev-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@ant.apache.org</pre>
+          or to  <pre>user-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@ant.apache.org</pre>.
+        </p>
+                                                          <h4 class="subsection">
         <a name="User List"></a>
         User List
       </h4>

Modified: ant/core/trunk/xdocs/mail.xml
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ant/core/trunk/xdocs/mail.xml?rev=430216&r1=430215&r2=430216&view=diff
==============================================================================
--- ant/core/trunk/xdocs/mail.xml (original)
+++ ant/core/trunk/xdocs/mail.xml Wed Aug  9 19:39:42 2006
@@ -46,31 +46,13 @@
 
 
       <p>To subscribe to a mailinglist use the links below. In your first email you will get some
-      information about working with the list manager <a href="http://www.ezmlm.org/">EZMLM</a>.
-      But <a href="http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ant-user&amp;m=115020655600019&amp;w=2">several times</a>
-      there were problems with unsubscribing from a mailinglist. The problem is that you use another
-      email adress for unsubscribing than for subscribing and ezmlm could not find that adress for
-      deleting from the list. So you have to find out, to which concrete email adress ezmlm is sending
-      the mail. This is visible in the email headers (in Microsoft Outlook via the messages menu
-      "View | Options").
-      <pre>
-      Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
-      ...
-      List-Unsubscribe: &lt;mailto:user-unsubscribe@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      List-Help: &lt;mailto:user-help@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      List-Post: &lt;mailto:user@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      List-Id: "Ant Users List" &lt;user.ant.apache.org&gt;
-      Reply-To: "Ant Users List" &lt;user@ant.apache.org&gt;
-      Delivered-To: mailing list user@ant.apache.org
-      ...
-      Return-Path: user-return-<i>12345-Jan.Materne=me.acme.com</i>@ant.apache.org
-      ...
-      </pre>
-      As you can see, you'll get the help information with each mail, too.
-      But more important is the <i>Return-Path</i>. If you change "return" into "unsubscribe" and you send 
-      an  email to that adress (<tt>user-unsubscribe-12345-Jan.Materne=me.acme.com@ant.apache.org</tt>) 
-      this  will unsubscribe you. 
-      </p>
+      information about working with the list manager <a href="http://www.ezmlm.org/">EZMLM</a>.</p>
+
+      <subsection name="How to unsubscribe your old email address">
+        <p> To stop subscription for the address john@host.domain , send an email to <pre>dev-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@ant.apache.org</pre>
+          or to  <pre>user-unsubscribe-john=host.domain@ant.apache.org</pre>.
+        </p>  
+      </subsection>
 
 
       <subsection name="User List">



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Re: svn commit: r430216 - in /ant/core/trunk: docs/mail.html xdocs/mail.xml

Posted by Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de>.
Hi,

I thought that people know which email address they want to unsubscribe. True, they might not remember it.

The one bit of information which was obsolete was the fact that the -nnnnn in the Return-Path need to be included in the unsubscribe email address.

I will restore a part of the previous version.

Something like :

To determine which email address you are subscribed under, look at the headers of the message and pick up this information from the Return-Path header.

Regards,

Antoine


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:41:41 +0200
Von: Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>
An: dev@ant.apache.org
Betreff: Re: svn commit: r430216 - in /ant/core/trunk: docs/mail.html xdocs/mail.xml

> Antoine,
> 
> you removed Jan's information about the Return-Path Header and how you
> can use it to find the subscribed address.  Has this been intentional?
> 
> Stefan
> 

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Re: svn commit: r430216 - in /ant/core/trunk: docs/mail.html xdocs/mail.xml

Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
Antoine,

you removed Jan's information about the Return-Path Header and how you
can use it to find the subscribed address.  Has this been intentional?

Stefan

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