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Posted to general@attic.apache.org by "Tong,Jianru" <to...@baidu.com> on 2017/09/12 05:16:10 UTC
about retired projects in apache software foundation
Dear,
Hi, I m from china, and I recently want to find the deatail reasons about retired projects.
But after I searched via google and apache portal, I still didn't get more detail.
For now, I just know one reason, ie lack of activity. What I want to know is how to understand "inactivity", lack of document? Lack of communication? Or lack of code contribution?
would you pls help me to implement this task if you wanna, or any detail material about retired project reason
my English is poor, I ll appreciate much if you can offer me some help.
many thx.
Re: 答复: about retired projects in apache software foundation
Posted by jan iversen <ja...@gmail.com>.
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> On 14 Sep 2017, at 05:01, Tong,Jianru <to...@baidu.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Jani,
> It’s very great for me to read this email when I come to work this morning. Thx for your kind respond.
>
> I ve learned a lot about attic, yet I wonder if there is a statistical report about the reason for ritired project in ASF, maybe the failure reason for those projects is much more valuable for me
There are no statistical reports, and most projects do not fail. The typical project is very mature, and never technologies have made the user/developer base shift away.
rgds
jan i
>
> Looking forward to your kind reply, thx~
>
> regards
>
>
> 发件人: Jani (apache) [mailto:jani@apache.org]
> 发送时间: 2017年9月13日 21:35
> 收件人: general@attic.apache.org; Tong,Jianru
> 主题: Re: about retired projects in apache software foundation
>
> Welcome.
>
> if you look at https://attic.apache.org/ you will see when a project should go to the attic.
>
> "Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who have no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties to the board are all good candidates for the Attic."
>
> The board is likely to intervine with these project should they not suggest moving to the attic. The board will see if revival is possible (clearly preferred)
>
> A project that does not/cannot make relevant security patches is also a likely candidate.
>
> Once a project is in the attic it is "readonly" and cannot be changed, however it can anytime be forked into a new project (theoretically it can leave the attic, should a renewed interest appear, however I do not think this have ever happened).
>
> I hope it answers your questions otherwise please ask. Language is not a barrier many of us are not native english speakers (I am danish but live in spain)
>
> rgds
> jan i
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 12 Sep 2017, at 07:16, Tong,Jianru <to...@baidu.com>> wrote:
> Dear,
> Hi, I m from china, and I recently want to find the deatail reasons about retired projects.
>
> But after I searched via google and apache portal, I still didn't get more detail.
>
> For now, I just know one reason, ie lack of activity. What I want to know is how to understand "inactivity", lack of document? Lack of communication? Or lack of code contribution?
>
> would you pls help me to implement this task if you wanna, or any detail material about retired project reason
>
> my English is poor, I ll appreciate much if you can offer me some help.
>
> many thx.
答复: about retired projects in apache software foundation
Posted by "Tong,Jianru" <to...@baidu.com>.
Dear Jani,
It’s very great for me to read this email when I come to work this morning. Thx for your kind respond.
I ve learned a lot about attic, yet I wonder if there is a statistical report about the reason for ritired project in ASF, maybe the failure reason for those projects is much more valuable for me
Looking forward to your kind reply, thx~
regards
发件人: Jani (apache) [mailto:jani@apache.org]
发送时间: 2017年9月13日 21:35
收件人: general@attic.apache.org; Tong,Jianru
主题: Re: about retired projects in apache software foundation
Welcome.
if you look at https://attic.apache.org/ you will see when a project should go to the attic.
"Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who have no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties to the board are all good candidates for the Attic."
The board is likely to intervine with these project should they not suggest moving to the attic. The board will see if revival is possible (clearly preferred)
A project that does not/cannot make relevant security patches is also a likely candidate.
Once a project is in the attic it is "readonly" and cannot be changed, however it can anytime be forked into a new project (theoretically it can leave the attic, should a renewed interest appear, however I do not think this have ever happened).
I hope it answers your questions otherwise please ask. Language is not a barrier many of us are not native english speakers (I am danish but live in spain)
rgds
jan i
Sent from my iPad
On 12 Sep 2017, at 07:16, Tong,Jianru <to...@baidu.com>> wrote:
Dear,
Hi, I m from china, and I recently want to find the deatail reasons about retired projects.
But after I searched via google and apache portal, I still didn't get more detail.
For now, I just know one reason, ie lack of activity. What I want to know is how to understand "inactivity", lack of document? Lack of communication? Or lack of code contribution?
would you pls help me to implement this task if you wanna, or any detail material about retired project reason
my English is poor, I ll appreciate much if you can offer me some help.
many thx.
Re: about retired projects in apache software foundation
Posted by "Jani (apache)" <ja...@apache.org>.
Welcome.
if you look at https://attic.apache.org/ you will see when a project should go to the attic.
"Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who have no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties to the board are all good candidates for the Attic."
The board is likely to intervine with these project should they not suggest moving to the attic. The board will see if revival is possible (clearly preferred)
A project that does not/cannot make relevant security patches is also a likely candidate.
Once a project is in the attic it is "readonly" and cannot be changed, however it can anytime be forked into a new project (theoretically it can leave the attic, should a renewed interest appear, however I do not think this have ever happened).
I hope it answers your questions otherwise please ask. Language is not a barrier many of us are not native english speakers (I am danish but live in spain)
rgds
jan i
Sent from my iPad
> On 12 Sep 2017, at 07:16, Tong,Jianru <to...@baidu.com> wrote:
>
> Dear,
> Hi, I m from china, and I recently want to find the deatail reasons about retired projects.
>
> But after I searched via google and apache portal, I still didn't get more detail.
>
> For now, I just know one reason, ie lack of activity. What I want to know is how to understand "inactivity", lack of document? Lack of communication? Or lack of code contribution?
>
> would you pls help me to implement this task if you wanna, or any detail material about retired project reason
>
> my English is poor, I ll appreciate much if you can offer me some help.
>
> many thx.