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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by "skip@theDevers" <sk...@thedevers.org> on 2007/10/13 01:46:36 UTC

Developers Website

Vijay

I have two hosted websites that I currently do not use one with almost 5
gigs on it (more if I clean out some old stuff) and another with 90gigs that
I was just about to drop.  Bandwidth is not a problem at 250gigs a month on
the small one and 1000gigs on the larger and even when they were active with
hundreds of users, I never even approached 25% of that.

Database space (mysql) is unlimited as far as I know.

I just won't have time for a few weeks to get it set up to accept
submissions.

My intent was to take anything from anyone, and then download it to a local
isolated machine and make sure there wasn't anything malicious in it, then
put it back up for others to grab.

The problem here is the regular maintenance checking new submissions.  I can
devote some time to that, but not lots.

If someone has time to do a php page to accept submissions, I can set up
phpBB pretty fast and a home page and then give someone ftp access to work
on the submissions page(s).

I just checked and ofbizdev.org is available for a domain name.

Skip



Re: Developers Website

Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
Ok.
I have a setup on sourceforge for that.
might consider that.


skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/12/2007 10:33 PM:
> BJ
> 
> This not a demo site.  It is a developers site to collect Ofbiz addons and
> customizations that don't make it into the official Ofbiz release for one
> reason or another.  I know of two people now who cannot post to Jira because
> of licensing issues.  There are many other reasons.  Maybe it's not "best
> practice" or industry specific or whatever.  Maybe they don't have time to
> continue updating it for the latest Ofbiz release.  There are dozens of
> reasons people feel uncomfortable offering code back.
> 
> This is just a place to let Ofbiz developers contribute back the community
> with no strings and little oversite.  Anything that can go in Jira should go
> there if people want to give that a try.
> 
> The intent is to provide something that is easy to use so you can steal some
> code or documentation to help you with your next project when it doesnt fit
> the Ofbiz model as well as you would like (which I expect is almost always)
> or it's in an industry that is not well supported.
> 
> This is not part of Ofbiz although in my vision, I would hope that whatever
> can, would have been offered via Jira.
> 
> There would be no SVN here, just tarred or zipped bits of code or
> documententation completely under control of the author and only vetted for
> malicious code.
> 
> The only thing I would like to see is that if you take something, you have
> to give something back.  Maybe you give something BEFORE you take something.
> 
> There are already several demo sites around, so I think that is a little
> redundant.
> 
> Anyway, only a dream until I have a few days to spend on it.
> 
> Skip
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BJ Freeman [mailto:bjfree@free-man.net]
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:41 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Developers Website
> 
> 
> not sure what you envision.
> there should be only one official svn for Apache ofbiz.
> and there are some others the provide demos along with their add-ons
> If you have something to demo or just provide another demo site, that
> may be helpful
> 
> 
> skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/12/2007 4:46 PM:
>> Vijay
>>
>> I have two hosted websites that I currently do not use one with almost 5
>> gigs on it (more if I clean out some old stuff) and another with 90gigs
> that
>> I was just about to drop.  Bandwidth is not a problem at 250gigs a month
> on
>> the small one and 1000gigs on the larger and even when they were active
> with
>> hundreds of users, I never even approached 25% of that.
>>
>> Database space (mysql) is unlimited as far as I know.
>>
>> I just won't have time for a few weeks to get it set up to accept
>> submissions.
>>
>> My intent was to take anything from anyone, and then download it to a
> local
>> isolated machine and make sure there wasn't anything malicious in it, then
>> put it back up for others to grab.
>>
>> The problem here is the regular maintenance checking new submissions.  I
> can
>> devote some time to that, but not lots.
>>
>> If someone has time to do a php page to accept submissions, I can set up
>> phpBB pretty fast and a home page and then give someone ftp access to work
>> on the submissions page(s).
>>
>> I just checked and ofbizdev.org is available for a domain name.
>>
>> Skip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Developers Website

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Just a reminder to endorse Jacopo's opinion :

Joint work :
"For copyright purposes, a collaboration between two or more authors in which their contributions are joined into a single cohesive
work. Each author of a joint work has equal rights to register and enforce the copyright, regardless of how their shares in the work
are divided. "

http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/D02E1468-485C-4B29-9A6F9698BE4A5433/alpha/J/

This is why Jira issue have this check boxe : ASF Grant. And this is why ASF and its practices exist.

We had an extended discussion about this topic earlier this year or last year you might find it thru Nabble.

Jacques

De : "Jacopo Cappellato" <ti...@sastau.it>
> Hi Skip,
>
> skip@theDevers wrote:
> > ...
> > The intent is to provide something that is easy to use so you can steal some
> > code or documentation to help you with your next project when it doesnt fit
> > the Ofbiz model as well as you would like (which I expect is almost always)
> > or it's in an industry that is not well supported.
> >
>
> I don't understand... under what license are you going to collect the
> contributions? No license from the authors == no rights to use.
>
> > This is not part of Ofbiz although in my vision, I would hope that whatever
> > can, would have been offered via Jira.
> >
>
> The author of a contribution in Apache OFBiz Jira have to choose to
> release it under the ASL2.0 or not (there is a radio box for this when
> you create an attachment); the patches/contributions in Jira are never
> deleted, even if they are not committed in the OFBiz svn... and of
> course they can be downloaded and evaluated by people interested.
>
> Isn't this enough?
>
> Jacopo
>


Re: Developers Website

Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ti...@sastau.it>.
Hi Skip,

skip@theDevers wrote:
> ...
> The intent is to provide something that is easy to use so you can steal some
> code or documentation to help you with your next project when it doesnt fit
> the Ofbiz model as well as you would like (which I expect is almost always)
> or it's in an industry that is not well supported.
> 

I don't understand... under what license are you going to collect the 
contributions? No license from the authors == no rights to use.

> This is not part of Ofbiz although in my vision, I would hope that whatever
> can, would have been offered via Jira.
> 

The author of a contribution in Apache OFBiz Jira have to choose to 
release it under the ASL2.0 or not (there is a radio box for this when 
you create an attachment); the patches/contributions in Jira are never 
deleted, even if they are not committed in the OFBiz svn... and of 
course they can be downloaded and evaluated by people interested.

Isn't this enough?

Jacopo


RE: Developers Website

Posted by "skip@theDevers" <sk...@thedevers.org>.
BJ

This not a demo site.  It is a developers site to collect Ofbiz addons and
customizations that don't make it into the official Ofbiz release for one
reason or another.  I know of two people now who cannot post to Jira because
of licensing issues.  There are many other reasons.  Maybe it's not "best
practice" or industry specific or whatever.  Maybe they don't have time to
continue updating it for the latest Ofbiz release.  There are dozens of
reasons people feel uncomfortable offering code back.

This is just a place to let Ofbiz developers contribute back the community
with no strings and little oversite.  Anything that can go in Jira should go
there if people want to give that a try.

The intent is to provide something that is easy to use so you can steal some
code or documentation to help you with your next project when it doesnt fit
the Ofbiz model as well as you would like (which I expect is almost always)
or it's in an industry that is not well supported.

This is not part of Ofbiz although in my vision, I would hope that whatever
can, would have been offered via Jira.

There would be no SVN here, just tarred or zipped bits of code or
documententation completely under control of the author and only vetted for
malicious code.

The only thing I would like to see is that if you take something, you have
to give something back.  Maybe you give something BEFORE you take something.

There are already several demo sites around, so I think that is a little
redundant.

Anyway, only a dream until I have a few days to spend on it.

Skip

-----Original Message-----
From: BJ Freeman [mailto:bjfree@free-man.net]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:41 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: Developers Website


not sure what you envision.
there should be only one official svn for Apache ofbiz.
and there are some others the provide demos along with their add-ons
If you have something to demo or just provide another demo site, that
may be helpful


skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/12/2007 4:46 PM:
> Vijay
>
> I have two hosted websites that I currently do not use one with almost 5
> gigs on it (more if I clean out some old stuff) and another with 90gigs
that
> I was just about to drop.  Bandwidth is not a problem at 250gigs a month
on
> the small one and 1000gigs on the larger and even when they were active
with
> hundreds of users, I never even approached 25% of that.
>
> Database space (mysql) is unlimited as far as I know.
>
> I just won't have time for a few weeks to get it set up to accept
> submissions.
>
> My intent was to take anything from anyone, and then download it to a
local
> isolated machine and make sure there wasn't anything malicious in it, then
> put it back up for others to grab.
>
> The problem here is the regular maintenance checking new submissions.  I
can
> devote some time to that, but not lots.
>
> If someone has time to do a php page to accept submissions, I can set up
> phpBB pretty fast and a home page and then give someone ftp access to work
> on the submissions page(s).
>
> I just checked and ofbizdev.org is available for a domain name.
>
> Skip
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Developers Website

Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
not sure what you envision.
there should be only one official svn for Apache ofbiz.
and there are some others the provide demos along with their add-ons
If you have something to demo or just provide another demo site, that
may be helpful


skip@theDevers sent the following on 10/12/2007 4:46 PM:
> Vijay
> 
> I have two hosted websites that I currently do not use one with almost 5
> gigs on it (more if I clean out some old stuff) and another with 90gigs that
> I was just about to drop.  Bandwidth is not a problem at 250gigs a month on
> the small one and 1000gigs on the larger and even when they were active with
> hundreds of users, I never even approached 25% of that.
> 
> Database space (mysql) is unlimited as far as I know.
> 
> I just won't have time for a few weeks to get it set up to accept
> submissions.
> 
> My intent was to take anything from anyone, and then download it to a local
> isolated machine and make sure there wasn't anything malicious in it, then
> put it back up for others to grab.
> 
> The problem here is the regular maintenance checking new submissions.  I can
> devote some time to that, but not lots.
> 
> If someone has time to do a php page to accept submissions, I can set up
> phpBB pretty fast and a home page and then give someone ftp access to work
> on the submissions page(s).
> 
> I just checked and ofbizdev.org is available for a domain name.
> 
> Skip
> 
> 
> 
> 
>