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[users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

 Hi,
The documents found here are very comprehensive.https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/
There is one more how-to topic I am looking for,that is access Apache  Webserver or  even access back end application server(s) via Apache Webserver using reverse proxy from the internet 
when running Apache on my personal laptop/machine. 

I would appreciate any links on how-to documents on that topic. 
Thank you.

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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by Eric Shields | #MassTransitHonchkrow <ma...@protonmail.com.INVALID>.
I have a DAV server on a class B NAT behind a DigitalOcean Wireguard server.

To achieve what you're seeking, you need to set up iptables rules under the "Destination NAT" rule subgroup.

You should adjust the hosts file on your device to reflect the fully qualified domain name (FQDN) of the server you want to face the world. You should also assign this hostname to your domain's zone record. Use the WAN address for this record.

Finally, you need to allow the same port on both the server and the WAN router to accept incoming connections. If your ISP is giving you a hard time, use a Wireguard-powered NAT so you have more freedom on defining incoming port traffic.

Find an example, and additional details, on
https://wireguard.krowverse.services

I could be missing steps. But feel free to ask for clarification.

-------- Original Message --------
On Apr 27, 2021, 4:49 PM, Antony Stone wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:35:35, back Button wrote:
>
>> I tired http://backbtn.ddns.net/ from my laptop.
>> after setting up the no-ip.com client application and following these
>> instructionshttps://www.noip.com/download?page=linux
>
>> This ip http://176.253.2.116/ shows the sky, broadband supplier page,
>> with a list of my home devices connected.
>
>> I have only followed the instructions as per no-ip.com so far.
>
> I'm sorry, but I can only repeat that this is not an Apache / HTTP problem.
>
> This is a matter of IP routing, and needs to be configured correctly on your
> modem (cable / DSL / UMTS / whatever), which is a device we know nothing
> about.
>
> I'm not trying to put you off (or fob you off); I'm just saying that this is
> something we cannot help you with - it needs to be set up on your Internet
> router, and we do not know what that is or how it works.
>
> Antony.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it>.
On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:35:35, back Button wrote:

> I tired http://backbtn.ddns.net/  from my laptop.
> after setting up the no-ip.com  client application and following these
> instructionshttps://www.noip.com/download?page=linux

> This ip http://176.253.2.116/    shows  the sky, broadband supplier page, 
> with a list of my  home devices connected.

> I have only followed the instructions as per no-ip.com  so far.

I'm sorry, but I can only repeat that this is not an Apache / HTTP problem.

This is a matter of IP routing, and needs to be configured correctly on your 
modem (cable / DSL / UMTS / whatever), which is a device we know nothing 
about.

I'm not trying to put you off (or fob you off); I'm just saying that this is 
something we cannot help you with - it needs to be set up on your Internet 
router, and we do not know what that is or how it works.


Antony.

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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
> 1. Did you try accessing http://backbtn.ddns.net/ from inside your network (the one where the laptop running the website is) or outside?
I tired http://backbtn.ddns.net/  from my laptop. 
after setting up the no-ip.com  client application and following these instructionshttps://www.noip.com/download?page=linux

 > You said you wanted to access it from the Internet - that's not necessarily the same as being able to access it from inside your own network.
Yes I want to be able to access from outside the local area network.If you are getting time out then something hasn't worked or isn't setup yet.

> 2. Did you set up inward routing rules on whatever device connects you to the 
Internet (ie: connects the Internet to you) so that 176.253.2.116:80 gets 
forwarded to your laptop's internal network address?
This ip http://176.253.2.116/    shows  the sky, broadband supplier page,  with a list of my  home devices connected.
I have only followed the instructions as per no-ip.com  so far.
There is  a pre installed apache2 webserver . I know that when I type http://localhost:80
 
 
back.button@aol.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 21:10
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:02:40, back Button wrote:

> > PS; Why do you always append ".invalid" to whatever email address you
> > happen  to be using at the time?

> That just happens 

I would complain at my email client if it did that sort of thing without me 
wanting it to.

On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:01:18, back Button wrote:

> if I type  http://backbtn.ddns.net/
> then I get  
> 
> 400 Bad Request
> Invalid Header.

I get "connection timed out".

So, two questions:

1. Did you try accessing http://backbtn.ddns.net/ from inside your netwrk (the 
one where the laptop running the website is) or outside?

You said you wanted to access it from the Internet - that's not necessarily 
the same as being able to access it from inside your own network.

2. Did you set up inward routing rules on whatever device connects you to the 
Internet (ie: connects the Internet to you) so that 176.253.2.116:80 gets 
forwarded to your laptop's internal network address?


Antony
 
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Never design anything that cannot work under degraded conditions in emergency.

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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by Richard <li...@listmail.innovate.net>.

> Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2021 22:10:35 +0200
> From: Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it>
>
> On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:02:40, back Button wrote:
> 
>> > PS; Why do you always append ".invalid" to whatever email
>> > address you happen  to be using at the time?
> 
>> That just happens 
> 
> I would complain at my email client if it did that sort of thing
> without me  wanting it to.

That's a DMARC-related mailinglist address rewrite issue, not
something controlled by the sender or their MUA. If you want more
details, look into DMARC in general and how different mailinglist
software packages handle enforced DMARC.



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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it>.
On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:02:40, back Button wrote:

> > PS; Why do you always append ".invalid" to whatever email address you
> > happen  to be using at the time?

> That just happens 

I would complain at my email client if it did that sort of thing without me 
wanting it to.

On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:01:18, back Button wrote:

> if I type  http://backbtn.ddns.net/
> then I get   
> 
> 400 Bad Request
> Invalid Header.

I get "connection timed out".

So, two questions:

1. Did you try accessing http://backbtn.ddns.net/ from inside your netwrk (the 
one where the laptop running the website is) or outside?

You said you wanted to access it from the Internet - that's not necessarily 
the same as being able to access it from inside your own network.

2. Did you set up inward routing rules on whatever device connects you to the 
Internet (ie: connects the Internet to you) so that 176.253.2.116:80 gets 
forwarded to your laptop's internal network address?


Antony
 
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Never design anything that cannot work under degraded conditions in emergency.

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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
That just happens  
PS; Why do you always append ".invalid" to whatever email address you happen  to be using at the time?
 
 
back.button@aol.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 20:20
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 21:11:38, back Button wrote:

> I want to know how to setup  a website on my home laptopand access it from
> anywhere in the world .

1. Set up a website on your home laptop.

2. Set up inbound routing on your Internet connection so that requests to your 
public IP address are forwarded to the private address of your laptop.

This really isn't an Apache question - this is just IP routing.


PS; Why do you always append ".invalid" to whatever email address you happen 
to be using at the time?


Antony.

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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it>.
On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 21:11:38, back Button wrote:

> I want to know how to setup  a website on my home laptopand access it from
> anywhere in the world .

1. Set up a website on your home laptop.

2. Set up inbound routing on your Internet connection so that requests to your 
public IP address are forwarded to the private address of your laptop.

This really isn't an Apache question - this is just IP routing.


PS; Why do you always append ".invalid" to whatever email address you happen 
to be using at the time?


Antony.

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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN test for me

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
http://backbtn.ddns.net
It has been tested from my home town in UK.Please test for me by clicking on link and let me knowing the outcome is 
It Works!
 
 
back.button@aol.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Toor, Rodrigo. <ro...@gmail.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 1:34
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

 Well, it's possible but is not secure.
 Anyway, you can install a XAMP/WAMP in you laptop and forward the port 80 to you workstation and acess the website with you public ip.
 like this: 142.250.79.46:8080, 142.250.79.46:80.
  
  Em 27/04/2021 16:11, back Button escreveu:
  
 
 
  I want to know how to setup  a website on my home laptop and access it from anywhere in the world . 
  
   
   
   back.button@aol.com
    
   
  -----Original Message-----
 From: Toor, Rodrigo. <ro...@gmail.com>
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:15
 Subject: Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access
 
   Want you a how to on official domain: https://httpd.apache.org or can be any other in web. In web there are many indexed on google. Em 27/04/2021 14:34, back Button escreveu:
  
 
      Hi, 
  The documents found here are very comprehensive. https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/ 
  There is one more how-to topic I am looking for, that is access Apache  Webserver or  even access back end application server(s) via Apache Webserver using reverse proxy from the internet 
  when running Apache on my personal laptop/machine. 
 
  I would appreciate any links on how-to documents on that topic.   
  Thank you.
  
   back.button@aol.com 
     -- 
Rodrigo Toor
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.     -- 
Rodrigo Toor
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. 

Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by "Toor, Rodrigo." <ro...@gmail.com>.
Well, it's possible but is not secure.
Anyway, you can install a XAMP/WAMP in you laptop and forward the port 
80 to you workstation and acess the website with you public ip.
like this: 142.250.79.46:8080, 142.250.79.46:80.


Em 27/04/2021 16:11, back Button escreveu:
>
> I want to know how to setup  a website on my home laptop
> and access it from anywhere in the world .
>
>
>
>
> back.button@aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toor, Rodrigo. <ro...@gmail.com>
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:15
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access
>
> Want you a how to on official domain: https://httpd.apache.org 
> <https://httpd.apache.org/> or can be any other in web. In web there 
> are many indexed on google.
> Em 27/04/2021 14:34, back Button escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> The documents found here are very comprehensive.
> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/ 
> <https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/>
>
> There is one more how-to topic I am looking for,
> that is access Apache  Webserver or even access back end application 
> server(s) via Apache Webserver using reverse proxy from the internet
> when running Apache on my personal laptop/machine.
>
> I would appreciate any links on how-to documents on that topic.
>
> Thank you.
>
> back.button@aol.com <ma...@aol.com>
>
> -- 
> Rodrigo Toor
> Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.

-- 
Rodrigo Toor
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.


Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
I have done this before long time ago.I purchased a static IP address on that occasion from my broad band supplier.This time I am doing it using no-ip.com.
I think I am ready for the apache configuration side.This is the first time so if you guys can help me with this.Then if it the configuration steps you supply me  don't work then I know  I have to contact no-ip.com
 
 
  
 
back.button@aol.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:13
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

There are several elements to hosting something with public access from your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, depending on your specific situation.

1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your ISP will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and not all ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have a real public IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you then that'll be the end of your attempt and it simply won't work because you're not 'on' the internet, you're using the internet for outbound things but your Internet would not be configured to allow incoming connections.
2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home router to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) to an IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to technically make it work.  What that looks like varies by each firewall/router setup but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the router's web interface.
3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the public IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to your IP address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, that's all fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your IP...steps 1 & 2 above will still have to be satisfied.
-Mark
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it> wrote:

On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:

> On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
> > 
> > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
> > display from the internet

> Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.

> To test it, just type:
> 
> localhost

And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the Internet"?

I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP address is 
not routed through to the private address, so requests from the Internet never 
reach the laptop which is running the webserver.


Antony.

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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
 I think I  maybe in luck.My sky router allows me to do a dynamic DNS setupwhere I need user name and password , hostname 
and also  port warding.
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:13
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

There are several elements to hosting something with public access from your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, depending on your specific situation.

1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your ISP will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and not all ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have a real public IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you then that'll be the end of your attempt and it simply won't work because you're not 'on' the internet, you're using the internet for outbound things but your Internet would not be configured to allow incoming connections.
2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home router to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) to an IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to technically make it work.  What that looks like varies by each firewall/router setup but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the router's web interface.
3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the public IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to your IP address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, that's all fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your IP...steps 1 & 2 above will still have to be satisfied.
-Mark
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it> wrote:

On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:

> On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
> > 
> > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
> > display from the internet

> Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.

> To test it, just type:
> 
> localhost

And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the Internet"?

I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP address is 
not routed through to the private address, so requests from the Internet never 
reach the laptop which is running the webserver.


Antony.

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The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up exclaiming "Damn!  I 
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.

As you can see the default apache installation doesn't have the file httpd.config 

Should I remove this installation and make a fresh installation from the 
https://httpd.apache.org/download.cgiThen update httpd.config  as you suggested ?
/etc/apache2>ls
apache2.conf  conf-available  conf-enabled  envvars  magic  mods-available  mods-enabled  ports.conf  sites-available  sites-enabled


apache2>sudo find .  httpd.config
.
./sites-available
./sites-available/000-default.conf
./sites-available/default-ssl.conf
./conf-enabled
./conf-enabled/security.conf
./conf-enabled/localized-error-pages.conf
./conf-enabled/charset.conf
./conf-enabled/serve-cgi-bin.conf
./conf-enabled/other-vhosts-access-log.conf
./apache2.conf
./mods-enabled
./mods-enabled/status.conf
./mods-enabled/deflate.load
./mods-enabled/env.load
./mods-enabled/reqtimeout.conf
./mods-enabled/status.load
./mods-enabled/negotiation.load
./mods-enabled/auth_basic.load
./mods-enabled/wsgi.load
./mods-enabled/deflate.conf
./mods-enabled/authz_core.load
./mods-enabled/authn_core.load
./mods-enabled/reqtimeout.load
./mods-enabled/alias.load
./mods-enabled/alias.conf
./mods-enabled/autoindex.load
./mods-enabled/filter.load
./mods-enabled/mpm_event.load
./mods-enabled/authz_user.load
./mods-enabled/negotiation.conf
./mods-enabled/authz_host.load
./mods-enabled/authn_file.load
./mods-enabled/dir.load
./mods-enabled/wsgi.conf
./mods-enabled/mpm_event.conf
./mods-enabled/dir.conf
./mods-enabled/setenvif.conf
./mods-enabled/access_compat.load
./mods-enabled/setenvif.load
./mods-enabled/mime.load
./mods-enabled/mime.conf
./mods-enabled/autoindex.conf
./conf-available
./conf-available/security.conf
./conf-available/localized-error-pages.conf
./conf-available/pgadmin4.conf
./conf-available/charset.conf
./conf-available/javascript-common.conf
./conf-available/serve-cgi-bin.conf
./conf-available/other-vhosts-access-log.conf
./envvars
./out.log
./magic
./mods-available
./mods-available/substitute.load
./mods-available/heartmonitor.load
./mods-available/authn_anon.load
./mods-available/status.conf
./mods-available/include.load
./mods-available/deflate.load
./mods-available/dbd.load
./mods-available/proxy_http2.load
./mods-available/mime_magic.load
./mods-available/cern_meta.load
./mods-available/sed.load
./mods-available/data.load
./mods-available/proxy_uwsgi.load
./mods-available/allowmethods.load
./mods-available/unique_id.load
./mods-available/socache_memcache.load
./mods-available/mpm_prefork.load
./mods-available/session.load
./mods-available/userdir.conf
./mods-available/authn_socache.load
./mods-available/proxy.conf
./mods-available/cache.load
./mods-available/dump_io.load
./mods-available/macro.load
./mods-available/echo.load
./mods-available/buffer.load
./mods-available/headers.load
./mods-available/proxy.load
./mods-available/authn_dbd.load
./mods-available/proxy_ftp.conf
./mods-available/asis.load
./mods-available/proxy_html.load
./mods-available/ratelimit.load
./mods-available/cache_disk.load
./mods-available/authnz_ldap.load
./mods-available/http2.load
./mods-available/lua.load
./mods-available/proxy_http.load
./mods-available/authz_dbd.load
./mods-available/rewrite.load
./mods-available/env.load
./mods-available/dav_fs.conf
./mods-available/ssl.conf
./mods-available/vhost_alias.load
./mods-available/reqtimeout.conf
./mods-available/dav_fs.load
./mods-available/remoteip.load
./mods-available/slotmem_plain.load
./mods-available/suexec.load
./mods-available/cgi.load
./mods-available/md.load
./mods-available/status.load
./mods-available/negotiation.load
./mods-available/heartbeat.load
./mods-available/auth_basic.load
./mods-available/imagemap.load
./mods-available/log_debug.load
./mods-available/wsgi.load
./mods-available/info.conf
./mods-available/deflate.conf
./mods-available/dav_lock.load
./mods-available/socache_dbm.load
./mods-available/session_cookie.load
./mods-available/log_forensic.load
./mods-available/proxy_fdpass.load
./mods-available/authz_core.load
./mods-available/slotmem_shm.load
./mods-available/proxy_fcgi.load
./mods-available/proxy_html.conf
./mods-available/authnz_fcgi.load
./mods-available/authn_core.load
./mods-available/reqtimeout.load
./mods-available/ident.load
./mods-available/alias.load
./mods-available/lbmethod_heartbeat.load
./mods-available/lbmethod_bybusyness.load
./mods-available/proxy_express.load
./mods-available/request.load
./mods-available/authn_dbm.load
./mods-available/cgid.load
./mods-available/authz_owner.load
./mods-available/brotli.load
./mods-available/proxy_scgi.load
./mods-available/session_dbd.load
./mods-available/proxy_connect.load
./mods-available/info.load
./mods-available/xml2enc.load
./mods-available/proxy_balancer.conf
./mods-available/alias.conf
./mods-available/autoindex.load
./mods-available/expires.load
./mods-available/ldap.load
./mods-available/ssl.load
./mods-available/ext_filter.load
./mods-available/cache_disk.conf
./mods-available/ldap.conf
./mods-available/auth_form.load
./mods-available/filter.load
./mods-available/mpm_event.load
./mods-available/authz_user.load
./mods-available/mime_magic.conf
./mods-available/proxy_ajp.load
./mods-available/mpm_worker.conf
./mods-available/authz_dbm.load
./mods-available/authz_groupfile.load
./mods-available/auth_digest.load
./mods-available/speling.load
./mods-available/negotiation.conf
./mods-available/authz_host.load
./mods-available/proxy_balancer.load
./mods-available/cache_socache.load
./mods-available/authn_file.load
./mods-available/dialup.load
./mods-available/proxy_wstunnel.load
./mods-available/mpm_worker.load
./mods-available/socache_shmcb.load
./mods-available/socache_redis.load
./mods-available/lbmethod_bytraffic.load
./mods-available/proxy_hcheck.load
./mods-available/dir.load
./mods-available/wsgi.conf
./mods-available/proxy_ftp.load
./mods-available/http2.conf
./mods-available/cgid.conf
./mods-available/actions.load
./mods-available/lbmethod_byrequests.load
./mods-available/session_crypto.load
./mods-available/file_cache.load
./mods-available/mpm_event.conf
./mods-available/dir.conf
./mods-available/setenvif.conf
./mods-available/userdir.load
./mods-available/actions.conf
./mods-available/access_compat.load
./mods-available/setenvif.load
./mods-available/usertrack.load
./mods-available/charset_lite.load
./mods-available/reflector.load
./mods-available/dav.load
./mods-available/mime.load
./mods-available/mime.conf
./mods-available/mpm_prefork.conf
./mods-available/autoindex.conf
./sites-enabled
./sites-enabled/000-default.conf
./ports.conf
find: ‘httpd.config’: No such file or directory


 


 
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-----Original Message-----
From: 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:50
Subject: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

On 27/04/2021 22:33, back Button wrote:
>
> if I type http://localhost/ then I get  the apache2 index.html page.
> This is the pre installed webserver which came ubuntu 20.
>
>
So it looks like you haven't uploaded your index.html page yet to the 
root folder of your server.

Now open your httpd.config file and look for:

ServerName localhost:80

Change localhost to:

http://backbtn.ddns.net

Then type your domain name in the browser.  It should load the index 
page or at least the default apache page.  For now at least.

Have you also got access to your router's Admin login details? Because 
you also need to enter the details in dynamic tab of the router to make 
sure inbound traffic is allowed.  If you are on SKY then you might have 
a problem because they don't allow inbound traffic for home users but 
you might have a different subscription plan so things might be different.

I am on the cheapest plan possible because all the internet work I do 
are from the Library (before the lockdown) or from Work.  at home I only 
do some development work as a hobby.



>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> back.button@aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:13
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access
>
> There are several elements to hosting something with public access 
> from your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, 
> depending on your specific situation.
>
> 1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your 
> ISP will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and 
> not all ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have 
> a real public IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you 
> then that'll be the end of your attempt and it simply won't work 
> because you're not 'on' the internet, you're using the internet for 
> outbound things but your Internet would not be configured to allow 
> incoming connections.
>
> 2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home 
> router to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) 
> to an IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to 
> technically make it work.  What that looks like varies by each 
> firewall/router setup but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the 
> router's web interface.
>
> 3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the 
> public IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to 
> your IP address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, 
> that's all fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your 
> IP...steps 1 & 2 above will still have to be satisfied.
>
> -Mark
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone 
> <Antony.Stone@apache.open.source.it 
> <ma...@apache.open.source.it>> wrote:
>
>    On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
>
>    > On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
>    > >
>    > > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
>    > > display from the internet
>
>    > Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.
>
>    > To test it, just type:
>    >
>    > localhost
>
>    And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the
>    Internet"?
>
>    I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP
>    address is
>    not routed through to the private address, so requests from the
>    Internet never
>    reach the laptop which is running the webserver.
>
>
>    Antony.
>
>    -- 
>    Pavlov is in the pub enjoying a pint.
>    The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up exclaiming
>    "Damn!  I
>    forgot to feed the dog!"
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
 
I have the message It works! at  localhostfrom the fresh  installation of apache  version 2.4.46

 Now I am ready to set it up.
 

back.button@aol.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:50
Subject: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

On 27/04/2021 22:33, back Button wrote:
>
> if I type http://localhost/ then I get  the apache2 index.html page.
> This is the pre installed webserver which came ubuntu 20.
>
>
So it looks like you haven't uploaded your index.html page yet to the 
root folder of your server.

Now open your httpd.config file and look for:

ServerName localhost:80

Change localhost to:

http://backbtn.ddns.net

Then type your domain name in the browser.  It should load the index 
page or at least the default apache page.  For now at least.

Have you also got access to your router's Admin login details? Because 
you also need to enter the details in dynamic tab of the router to make 
sure inbound traffic is allowed.  If you are on SKY then you might have 
a problem because they don't allow inbound traffic for home users but 
you might have a different subscription plan so things might be different.

I am on the cheapest plan possible because all the internet work I do 
are from the Library (before the lockdown) or from Work.  at home I only 
do some development work as a hobby.



>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> back.button@aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:13
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access
>
> There are several elements to hosting something with public access 
> from your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, 
> depending on your specific situation.
>
> 1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your 
> ISP will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and 
> not all ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have 
> a real public IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you 
> then that'll be the end of your attempt and it simply won't work 
> because you're not 'on' the internet, you're using the internet for 
> outbound things but your Internet would not be configured to allow 
> incoming connections.
>
> 2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home 
> router to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) 
> to an IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to 
> technically make it work.  What that looks like varies by each 
> firewall/router setup but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the 
> router's web interface.
>
> 3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the 
> public IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to 
> your IP address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, 
> that's all fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your 
> IP...steps 1 & 2 above will still have to be satisfied.
>
> -Mark
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone 
> <Antony.Stone@apache.open.source.it 
> <ma...@apache.open.source.it>> wrote:
>
>    On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
>
>    > On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
>    > >
>    > > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
>    > > display from the internet
>
>    > Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.
>
>    > To test it, just type:
>    >
>    > localhost
>
>    And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the
>    Internet"?
>
>    I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP
>    address is
>    not routed through to the private address, so requests from the
>    Internet never
>    reach the laptop which is running the webserver.
>
>
>    Antony.
>
>    -- 
>    Pavlov is in the pub enjoying a pint.
>    The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up exclaiming
>    "Damn!  I
>    forgot to feed the dog!"
>
>     Please reply to the list;
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
 
 After the fresh installation of 2.4.46 and It works! 
When I ran apache for the first time I was getting 
AH00558: httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message
Then I updated the  httpd.conf with 
ServerName   http://backbtn.ddns.net
Now the AH0058 message has gone, so I guess that has been accepted.
still when I put  http://backbtn.ddns.net
I am getting  

400 Bad Request
Invalid Header. 


back.button@aol.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:50
Subject: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

On 27/04/2021 22:33, back Button wrote:
>
> if I type http://localhost/ then I get  the apache2 index.html page.
> This is the pre installed webserver which came ubuntu 20.
>
>
So it looks like you haven't uploaded your index.html page yet to the 
root folder of your server.

Now open your httpd.config file and look for:

ServerName localhost:80

Change localhost to:

http://backbtn.ddns.net

Then type your domain name in the browser.  It should load the index 
page or at least the default apache page.  For now at least.

Have you also got access to your router's Admin login details? Because 
you also need to enter the details in dynamic tab of the router to make 
sure inbound traffic is allowed.  If you are on SKY then you might have 
a problem because they don't allow inbound traffic for home users but 
you might have a different subscription plan so things might be different.

I am on the cheapest plan possible because all the internet work I do 
are from the Library (before the lockdown) or from Work.  at home I only 
do some development work as a hobby.



>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> back.button@aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:13
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access
>
> There are several elements to hosting something with public access 
> from your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, 
> depending on your specific situation.
>
> 1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your 
> ISP will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and 
> not all ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have 
> a real public IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you 
> then that'll be the end of your attempt and it simply won't work 
> because you're not 'on' the internet, you're using the internet for 
> outbound things but your Internet would not be configured to allow 
> incoming connections.
>
> 2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home 
> router to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) 
> to an IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to 
> technically make it work.  What that looks like varies by each 
> firewall/router setup but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the 
> router's web interface.
>
> 3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the 
> public IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to 
> your IP address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, 
> that's all fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your 
> IP...steps 1 & 2 above will still have to be satisfied.
>
> -Mark
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone 
> <Antony.Stone@apache.open.source.it 
> <ma...@apache.open.source.it>> wrote:
>
>    On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
>
>    > On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
>    > >
>    > > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
>    > > display from the internet
>
>    > Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.
>
>    > To test it, just type:
>    >
>    > localhost
>
>    And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the
>    Internet"?
>
>    I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP
>    address is
>    not routed through to the private address, so requests from the
>    Internet never
>    reach the laptop which is running the webserver.
>
>
>    Antony.
>
>    -- 
>    Pavlov is in the pub enjoying a pint.
>    The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up exclaiming
>    "Damn!  I
>    forgot to feed the dog!"
>
>     Please reply to the list;
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>
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[users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>.
On 27/04/2021 22:33, back Button wrote:
>
> if I type http://localhost/ then I get  the apache2 index.html page.
> This is the pre installed webserver which came ubuntu 20.
>
>
So it looks like you haven't uploaded your index.html page yet to the 
root folder of your server.

Now open your httpd.config file and look for:

ServerName localhost:80

Change localhost to:

http://backbtn.ddns.net

Then type your domain name in the browser.  It should load the index 
page or at least the default apache page.  For now at least.

Have you also got access to your router's Admin login details? Because 
you also need to enter the details in dynamic tab of the router to make 
sure inbound traffic is allowed.  If you are on SKY then you might have 
a problem because they don't allow inbound traffic for home users but 
you might have a different subscription plan so things might be different.

I am on the cheapest plan possible because all the internet work I do 
are from the Library (before the lockdown) or from Work.  at home I only 
do some development work as a hobby.



>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> back.button@aol.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>
> To: users@httpd.apache.org
> Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:13
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access
>
> There are several elements to hosting something with public access 
> from your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, 
> depending on your specific situation.
>
> 1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your 
> ISP will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and 
> not all ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have 
> a real public IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you 
> then that'll be the end of your attempt and it simply won't work 
> because you're not 'on' the internet, you're using the internet for 
> outbound things but your Internet would not be configured to allow 
> incoming connections.
>
> 2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home 
> router to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) 
> to an IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to 
> technically make it work.  What that looks like varies by each 
> firewall/router setup but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the 
> router's web interface.
>
> 3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the 
> public IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to 
> your IP address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, 
> that's all fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your 
> IP...steps 1 & 2 above will still have to be satisfied.
>
> -Mark
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone 
> <Antony.Stone@apache.open.source.it 
> <ma...@apache.open.source.it>> wrote:
>
>     On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
>
>     > On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
>     > >
>     > > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
>     > > display from the internet
>
>     > Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.
>
>     > To test it, just type:
>     >
>     > localhost
>
>     And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the
>     Internet"?
>
>     I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP
>     address is
>     not routed through to the private address, so requests from the
>     Internet never
>     reach the laptop which is running the webserver.
>
>
>     Antony.
>
>     -- 
>     Pavlov is in the pub enjoying a pint.
>     The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up exclaiming
>     "Damn!  I
>     forgot to feed the dog!"
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
if I type http://localhost/ then I get  the apache2 index.html page.This is the pre installed webserver which came ubuntu 20.
If I type http://backbtn.ddns.net/ then I get 

400 Bad Request
Invalid Header. 

With no-ip.com dynamic dns  setup  I would like to configure apache to accept requests for the domain  
http://backbtn.ddns.net/ 

I have a feeling I have the required setup. If not then I will work on it.
So for the next step can you please give me the necessary configuration I need for  apacheto accept requests for domain  http://backbtn.ddns.net/   ?

 



 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 22:13
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

There are several elements to hosting something with public access from your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, depending on your specific situation.

1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your ISP will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and not all ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have a real public IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you then that'll be the end of your attempt and it simply won't work because you're not 'on' the internet, you're using the internet for outbound things but your Internet would not be configured to allow incoming connections.
2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home router to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) to an IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to technically make it work.  What that looks like varies by each firewall/router setup but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the router's web interface.
3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the public IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to your IP address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, that's all fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your IP...steps 1 & 2 above will still have to be satisfied.
-Mark
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it> wrote:

On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:

> On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
> > 
> > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
> > display from the internet

> Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.

> To test it, just type:
> 
> localhost

And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the Internet"?

I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP address is 
not routed through to the private address, so requests from the Internet never 
reach the laptop which is running the webserver.


Antony.

-- 
Pavlov is in the pub enjoying a pint.
The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up exclaiming "Damn!  I 
forgot to feed the dog!"

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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by Mark Brodis <ma...@colorado4x4.net>.
There are several elements to hosting something with public access from
your home, some things are tricky, some are just impossible, depending on
your specific situation.

1) You need to know if your Internet access is setup such that your ISP
will allow incoming connections to your address, not all do, and not all
ISPs give out real public IPs to customers, if you don't have a real public
IP, or if your ISP is blocking connections coming to you then that'll be
the end of your attempt and it simply won't work because you're not 'on'
the internet, you're using the internet for outbound things but your
Internet would not be configured to allow incoming connections.

2) If you do have proper access then you can simply setup your home router
to route incoming connections on a specific port (e.g. 80/443) to an
IP:port address on your local network.  That would be enough to technically
make it work.  What that looks like varies by each firewall/router setup
but usually named IP Forwarding or such in the router's web interface.

3) If you want to access your home site via something other than the public
IP address then sure you can create a public hostname mapped to your IP
address, you can do it statically or with some dynamic DNS, that's all
fine, but all that does is put a nice name on your IP...steps 1 & 2 above
will still have to be satisfied.

-Mark

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 2:59 PM Antony Stone <
Antony.Stone@apache.open.source.it> wrote:

> On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:
>
> > On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
> > >
> > > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
> > > display from the internet
>
> > Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.
>
> > To test it, just type:
> >
> > localhost
>
> And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the Internet"?
>
> I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP address
> is
> not routed through to the private address, so requests from the Internet
> never
> reach the laptop which is running the webserver.
>
>
> Antony.
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[users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>.
On 27/04/2021 21:59, Antony Stone wrote:
> And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the Internet"?
>

We are getting there slowly.  first he needs to have a server fully 
configured.  do you know if he has installed the server?

Let's do it step by step.  The guy wants to learn and then he can take 
it over and configure all the securities required to hist a web server 
and perhaps a database.

It's pretty easy if you look at it with a calm mind and determination!

If the server is not setup then we need to get him to do that first with 
our help of course if needed.  I run a development server on my desktop 
- apache as well as IIS and they are running just fine for the 
development work but I haven't "exposed" them to the outside world 
because my ISP doesn't allow inbound traffic.  I am in the UK and most 
ISP are pretty strict about what a user can do on the net.


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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by Antony Stone <An...@apache.open.source.it>.
On Tuesday 27 April 2021 at 22:53:07, 😉 Good Guy 😉 wrote:

> On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
> > 
> > Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page
> > display from the internet

> Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.

> To test it, just type:
> 
> localhost

And, how does this get "the index.html page to display from the Internet"?

I really think the fundamental problem here is that the public IP address is 
not routed through to the private address, so requests from the Internet never 
reach the laptop which is running the webserver.


Antony.

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[users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>.
On 27/04/2021 21:01, back Button wrote:
> I want the practice to setup from scratch.
>
> Later try a setup with raspberry pi  on linux. May be attach a live 
> camera to the Pi.
>
> I have Just setup an account on no-ip.com registered the domain  
> backbtn.ddns.net
>
> if I type  http://backbtn.ddns.net/
>
> then I get
>
>
>         400 Bad Request
>
> Invalid Header.
>
> Does that  mean  I am connected  to the Apache2 server which comes 
> installed with  Ubuntu 20.04  ?
>
> Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page 
> display  from the internet
> I can take it form there .
>
>
>
>

Load your index.html file to the root of the htdocs folders.

I am assuming you have already setup the Apache server on your laptop 
(or even IIS on your Windows 10 Professional machine).

To test it, just type:

localhost

in the browser - Edge, Firefox or Google

You will see your page load in the browser.



>
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Re: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
 I want the practice to setup from scratch.
 Later try a setup with raspberry pi  on linux. May be attach a live camera to the Pi.
I have Just setup an account on no-ip.com registered the domain  backbtn.ddns.net
if I type  http://backbtn.ddns.net/
then I get   

400 Bad Request
Invalid Header.
Does that  mean  I am connected  to the Apache2 server which comes installed with  Ubuntu 20.04  ?
Please get me to the stage when I can have the index.html page display  from the internet 
I can take it form there .



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-----Original Message-----
From: 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 20:45
Subject: [users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

On 27/04/2021 20:11, back Button wrote:
>
> I want to know how to setup  a website on my home laptop
> and access it from anywhere in the world .
>
>
>
>
>
What's the operating system on your laptop?  Also, have you considered 
the fact thyat the laptop might go to sleep when it is idle for some time.

Frankly, it is not a good idea to have a server on the laptop or a PC 
when there are many free hosts from reputable organizations such as 
Google, Microsoft, Netlify, Github pages, CloudFlare Pages etc etc.  
Even Alibaba and IBM wil give you free hosting. Amazon's AWS used to be 
free but now they have started charging after one year but the charges 
are quite small.  About 50 cents per month for a small website with 
10,000 visitors a day.

Most cloud services will give you free hosting of Static websites on 
their file storage servers with 5GB storage space.



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[users@httpd] Re: LAN to WAN access

Posted by 😉 Good Guy 😉 <xf...@hotmail.com>.
On 27/04/2021 20:11, back Button wrote:
>
> I want to know how to setup  a website on my home laptop
> and access it from anywhere in the world .
>
>
>
>
>
What's the operating system on your laptop?  Also, have you considered 
the fact thyat the laptop might go to sleep when it is idle for some time.

Frankly, it is not a good idea to have a server on the laptop or a PC 
when there are many free hosts from reputable organizations such as 
Google, Microsoft, Netlify, Github pages, CloudFlare Pages etc etc.  
Even Alibaba and IBM wil give you free hosting. Amazon's AWS used to be 
free but now they have started charging after one year but the charges 
are quite small.  About 50 cents per month for a small website with 
10,000 visitors a day.

Most cloud services will give you free hosting of Static websites on 
their file storage servers with 5GB storage space.



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Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by back Button <ba...@aol.com.INVALID>.
I want to know how to setup  a website on my home laptopand access it from anywhere in the world .

  
 
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From: Toor, Rodrigo. <ro...@gmail.com>
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:15
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

 Want you a how to on official domain: https://httpd.apache.org or can be any other in web. In web there are many indexed on google. Em 27/04/2021 14:34, back Button escreveu:
  
 
  Hi, 
  The documents found here are very comprehensive. https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/ 
  There is one more how-to topic I am looking for, that is access Apache  Webserver or  even access back end application server(s) via Apache Webserver using reverse proxy from the internet 
  when running Apache on my personal laptop/machine. 
 
  I would appreciate any links on how-to documents on that topic.   
  Thank you.
  
   back.button@aol.com 
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Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. 

Re: [users@httpd] LAN to WAN access

Posted by "Toor, Rodrigo." <ro...@gmail.com>.
Want you a how to on official domain: https://httpd.apache.org or can be 
any other in web. In web there are many indexed on google.

Em 27/04/2021 14:34, back Button escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> The documents found here are very comprehensive.
> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/
>
> There is one more how-to topic I am looking for,
> that is access Apache  Webserver or even access back end application 
> server(s) via Apache Webserver using reverse proxy from the internet
> when running Apache on my personal laptop/machine.
>
> I would appreciate any links on how-to documents on that topic.
>
> Thank you.
>
> back.button@aol.com
>
-- 
Rodrigo Toor
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.