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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Lester Caine <le...@lsces.co.uk> on 2008/09/15 14:23:34 UTC
[users@httpd] Spliting ServerRoot
I've just had a problem on a site that I need to get fixed properly.
I should probably have taken a bit more care when I set thing up, but at that
time I missed one thing, and that was that the log files default to ServerRoot.
I don't want to move the configuration files from /etc/ but I need to move all
the logging over to /usr2/ so that it does not fill the base 8Gb partition -
and crash the server :(
Is there a 'global' setting which will move the base log directory or do I
have to handle each logging directive manually? This is on a Mandiva 2008.0
setup which uses /etc/httpd/ but on the SUSE setup I seem already to have the
logging split, and can't see why it's different.
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Re: [users@httpd] Spliting ServerRoot
Posted by Lester Caine <le...@lsces.co.uk>.
André Warnier wrote:
> Lester Caine wrote:
>> André Warnier wrote:
>>> Lester Caine wrote:
>>>> I've just had a problem on a site that I need to get fixed properly.
>>>>
>>>> I should probably have taken a bit more care when I set thing up,
>>>> but at that time I missed one thing, and that was that the log files
>>>> default to ServerRoot.
>>>>
>>>> I don't want to move the configuration files from /etc/ but I need
>>>> to move all the logging over to /usr2/ so that it does not fill the
>>>> base 8Gb partition - and crash the server :(
>>>>
>>>> Is there a 'global' setting which will move the base log directory
>>>> or do I have to handle each logging directive manually? This is on a
>>>> Mandiva 2008.0 setup which uses /etc/httpd/ but on the SUSE setup I
>>>> seem already to have the logging split, and can't see why it's
>>>> different.
>>>>
>>> In the httpd.conf (or apache.conf) and/or similar VirtualHost conf
>>> files, there are 2 lines :
>>> ErrorLog and CustomLog, which indicate the logfiles for errors, and
>>> for accesses respectively.
>>> If the paths to these files start with a "/", then the path is
>>> absolute. If it starts without a "/", then it is relative to the
>>> server root.
>>> From what you say above, I guess they start with "logs/....", which
>>> make them relative.
>>> So just change that to "/usr2/httpd/logs/.." or whatever you need,
>>> and restart apache.
>>
>> TA - that was the kick I needed. But I can't restart until they finish
>> work tonight.
>>
>> Now I just need to work out why on the 1st of the Month when the logs
>> are changed over Apache hangs and has to be restarted? I can't see
>> anything in the logs, but it's almost as if it's stopped, logs
>> renamed, but then not started by which ever script is controlling it?
>>
> Look for instances of "logrotate", /etc/logrotate, /etc/logrotate.d and
> so on. You can also look in /etc/cron.monthly, which is probably where
> it all starts.
> But then, if you have a problem wit that, ask on a Linux list, not here,
> because this has nothing to do with Apache.
>
> And, by the way, if you change the location of the logfiles, then your
> current configuration of logrotate will not be valid anymore, and you
> will *have* to change it.
> Have fun.
Now THAT fills the gap. I had only installed 'apache' - the installed did the
rest, so I've been looking in 'httpd' at the stuff there for log rotation. It
LOOKS as if there is a problem with what it has written to
/etc/logrotate.d/httpd which may well be part of the problem.
Sometimes I wish that we had a COMPLETE log of what an install or update
affected and where everything has been added. When it works it's fine, but
when something fails ......
Thanks again for a kick in the right direction.
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Re: [users@httpd] Spliting ServerRoot
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Lester Caine wrote:
> André Warnier wrote:
>> Lester Caine wrote:
>>> I've just had a problem on a site that I need to get fixed properly.
>>>
>>> I should probably have taken a bit more care when I set thing up, but
>>> at that time I missed one thing, and that was that the log files
>>> default to ServerRoot.
>>>
>>> I don't want to move the configuration files from /etc/ but I need to
>>> move all the logging over to /usr2/ so that it does not fill the base
>>> 8Gb partition - and crash the server :(
>>>
>>> Is there a 'global' setting which will move the base log directory or
>>> do I have to handle each logging directive manually? This is on a
>>> Mandiva 2008.0 setup which uses /etc/httpd/ but on the SUSE setup I
>>> seem already to have the logging split, and can't see why it's
>>> different.
>>>
>> In the httpd.conf (or apache.conf) and/or similar VirtualHost conf
>> files, there are 2 lines :
>> ErrorLog and CustomLog, which indicate the logfiles for errors, and
>> for accesses respectively.
>> If the paths to these files start with a "/", then the path is
>> absolute. If it starts without a "/", then it is relative to the
>> server root.
>> From what you say above, I guess they start with "logs/....", which
>> make them relative.
>> So just change that to "/usr2/httpd/logs/.." or whatever you need, and
>> restart apache.
>
> TA - that was the kick I needed. But I can't restart until they finish
> work tonight.
>
> Now I just need to work out why on the 1st of the Month when the logs
> are changed over Apache hangs and has to be restarted? I can't see
> anything in the logs, but it's almost as if it's stopped, logs renamed,
> but then not started by which ever script is controlling it?
>
Look for instances of "logrotate", /etc/logrotate, /etc/logrotate.d and
so on. You can also look in /etc/cron.monthly, which is probably where
it all starts.
But then, if you have a problem wit that, ask on a Linux list, not here,
because this has nothing to do with Apache.
And, by the way, if you change the location of the logfiles, then your
current configuration of logrotate will not be valid anymore, and you
will *have* to change it.
Have fun.
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Re: [users@httpd] Spliting ServerRoot
Posted by Lester Caine <le...@lsces.co.uk>.
André Warnier wrote:
> Lester Caine wrote:
>> I've just had a problem on a site that I need to get fixed properly.
>>
>> I should probably have taken a bit more care when I set thing up, but
>> at that time I missed one thing, and that was that the log files
>> default to ServerRoot.
>>
>> I don't want to move the configuration files from /etc/ but I need to
>> move all the logging over to /usr2/ so that it does not fill the base
>> 8Gb partition - and crash the server :(
>>
>> Is there a 'global' setting which will move the base log directory or
>> do I have to handle each logging directive manually? This is on a
>> Mandiva 2008.0 setup which uses /etc/httpd/ but on the SUSE setup I
>> seem already to have the logging split, and can't see why it's different.
>>
> In the httpd.conf (or apache.conf) and/or similar VirtualHost conf
> files, there are 2 lines :
> ErrorLog and CustomLog, which indicate the logfiles for errors, and for
> accesses respectively.
> If the paths to these files start with a "/", then the path is absolute.
> If it starts without a "/", then it is relative to the server root.
> From what you say above, I guess they start with "logs/....", which
> make them relative.
> So just change that to "/usr2/httpd/logs/.." or whatever you need, and
> restart apache.
TA - that was the kick I needed. But I can't restart until they finish work
tonight.
Now I just need to work out why on the 1st of the Month when the logs are
changed over Apache hangs and has to be restarted? I can't see anything in the
logs, but it's almost as if it's stopped, logs renamed, but then not started
by which ever script is controlling it?
--
Lester Caine - G8HFL
-----------------------------
Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact
L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk
EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/
Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk//
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Re: [users@httpd] Spliting ServerRoot
Posted by André Warnier <aw...@ice-sa.com>.
Lester Caine wrote:
> I've just had a problem on a site that I need to get fixed properly.
>
> I should probably have taken a bit more care when I set thing up, but at
> that time I missed one thing, and that was that the log files default to
> ServerRoot.
>
> I don't want to move the configuration files from /etc/ but I need to
> move all the logging over to /usr2/ so that it does not fill the base
> 8Gb partition - and crash the server :(
>
> Is there a 'global' setting which will move the base log directory or do
> I have to handle each logging directive manually? This is on a Mandiva
> 2008.0 setup which uses /etc/httpd/ but on the SUSE setup I seem already
> to have the logging split, and can't see why it's different.
>
In the httpd.conf (or apache.conf) and/or similar VirtualHost conf
files, there are 2 lines :
ErrorLog and CustomLog, which indicate the logfiles for errors, and for
accesses respectively.
If the paths to these files start with a "/", then the path is absolute.
If it starts without a "/", then it is relative to the server root.
From what you say above, I guess they start with "logs/....", which
make them relative.
So just change that to "/usr2/httpd/logs/.." or whatever you need, and
restart apache.
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