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Posted to users@tomee.apache.org by Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com> on 2013/03/25 20:27:18 UTC
Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
"Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
TomEE."
"The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all other IDE
integrations."
"TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your feedback is a
critcal part of that."
Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use Intellij and
TomEE together! :-)
Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
--
Jason Zwolak
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/webhelp/run-debug-configuration-tomee.html can
help too
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2013/3/25 Howard W. Smith, Jr. <sm...@gmail.com>
> I would start here[1], because TomEE's JIRA site says the following (look
> for the last word)...
>
> All-Apache Java EE 6 Web Profile stack based on Tomcat
>
> NetBeans/TomEE works, because NetBeans see TomEE as 'tomcat7' server, so it
> works, but so far, i can only deploy WAR to this tomcat7 (tomEE) server.
> Netbeans sees Glassfish as a true 'Java EE' server, but netbeans does 'not'
> see 'tomcat7' as a Java EE server.
>
> Does IntelliJ see tomcat7 as a Java EE server? are you able to deploy EAR,
> EJBs, etc... to tomcat7 via IntelliJ? If so, then there is hope. :)
>
>
> [1]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tomcat+intellij
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
> > application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
> >
> > It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
> >
> > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> > TomEE."
> >
> > "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all other IDE
> > integrations."
> >
> > "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your feedback is
> a
> > critcal part of that."
> >
> > Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use Intellij
> and
> > TomEE together! :-)
> >
> > Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> > --
> > Jason Zwolak
> >
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by "Howard W. Smith, Jr." <sm...@gmail.com>.
I would start here[1], because TomEE's JIRA site says the following (look
for the last word)...
All-Apache Java EE 6 Web Profile stack based on Tomcat
NetBeans/TomEE works, because NetBeans see TomEE as 'tomcat7' server, so it
works, but so far, i can only deploy WAR to this tomcat7 (tomEE) server.
Netbeans sees Glassfish as a true 'Java EE' server, but netbeans does 'not'
see 'tomcat7' as a Java EE server.
Does IntelliJ see tomcat7 as a Java EE server? are you able to deploy EAR,
EJBs, etc... to tomcat7 via IntelliJ? If so, then there is hope. :)
[1]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tomcat+intellij
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
> application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
>
> It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
>
> "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> TomEE."
>
> "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all other IDE
> integrations."
>
> "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your feedback is a
> critcal part of that."
>
> Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use Intellij and
> TomEE together! :-)
>
> Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> --
> Jason Zwolak
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
think there is a misreading of the page, tomee doesn't recommand intellij,
it is said it is one of the most appreciated IDE for dev.
that said the integration is probably the most advanced since ear and jar
are supported out of the box.
that said mvn plugin is still the more efficient way to dev with tomee.
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2013/6/5 Leonardo K. Shikida <sh...@gmail.com>
> speaking about books and tutorials, I'd love to buy a tomEE+ book if there
> was any :-(
>
> it's a great project, but it's still starting and it needs our help to get
> traction.
>
> so let's write lots of blog posts and tutorials and share
>
> ;-)
>
> []
>
> Leo
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, it does seem to be IDE related... I'm posting here because the
> TomEE
> > documentation recommends IntelliJ and I spent about 30 hours working with
> > IntelliJ and TomEE before I could get things working. I would like the
> > TomEE team to revise the documentation at
> > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html to clearly state that
> > IntelliJ has limited support for TomEE. Or at least state that they
> > believe TomEE will be to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans. That's
> my
> > request. I won't hold it against the developers if they decide not to do
> > this.
> >
> > I'll end this thread here with a tutorial I wrote after 30 hours of work
> > understanding TomEE, IntelliJ and the integration of the two. This is
> the
> > documentation I've been looking for!! I hope it's useful to someone
> else.
> > I am a little embarrassed that it took 30 hours to figure this out... it
> > seems so simple. Alas... it did and I may not be the only one.
> >
> >
> >
> http://jason.zwolak.org/technoblog/2013/06/restful-service-with-tomee-and-intellij-idea/
> >
> > --
> > Jason Zwolak
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > which version of intellij do you have?
> > >
> > > in the ultimate one you can generate stubs etc...
> > >
> > > thinking to it i wonder if this thread shouldn't move over idea forum
> > (you
> > > can still ask us for tomee specific things but it looks like an IDE
> issue
> > > more than a server one)
> > >
> > > wdyt?
> > >
> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/4 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Thank you, Romain!
> > > >
> > > > Romain, I canot say that I don't like the integration of TomEE with
> > > > IntelliJ, because I don't know what the integration can do! This is
> my
> > > > problem. I don't know how to leverage the integration of TomEE with
> > > > IntelliJ.
> > > >
> > > > Is the only thing that IntelliJ has is a item to select TomEE as the
> > > > application server? There must be more.
> > > >
> > > > Here's what I'm looking for:
> > > > Buttons/menu items that create boiler plate code for a web service,
> > for a
> > > > restful service, for an entity tied to a database, WSDL, and other
> > JavaEE
> > > > related application code.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to, in 5 minutes or less, click a couple buttons and
> make
> > a
> > > > few selections and have a RESTful service up and running that does
> > > > essentially nothing, but has all the boilerplate code. I don't want
> to
> > > > type a single line of code in this process, but I do expect to be
> able
> > to
> > > > name a few things. Then, I want to be able to hit "Run" and see the
> > > > results of this essentially empty RESTful service. After that, I'll
> > type
> > > > the code that does my application specific functions and modify
> > > boilerplate
> > > > code if necessary (but probably not).
> > > >
> > > > Here's a little more of my frustrating rant, with a few suggestions
> for
> > > > TomEE documentation changes. I wish I had the energy to edit this
> and
> > > trim
> > > > it down to the essential things I want to say, but I'm feeling so
> > > > frustrated with my experience with IntelliJ and TomEE. I like to
> think
> > > I'm
> > > > a competent developer and I've developed all sorts of web
> applications
> > in
> > > > Rails, I've developed a really fast biological simulator that has a
> > > > built-in custom interpreter and compiler that are optimized to the
> > > problem
> > > > domain, but for some reason I find myself feeling isolated and alone
> > > when I
> > > > try to look for documentation and support for TomEE and IntelliJ.
> That
> > > > said, I really appreciate your reply Romain, and don't want you to
> > think
> > > > that I'm ungrateful.
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... so on to some more documentation and other frustrations:
> > > >
> > > > I was under the impression that IntelliJ IDEA was the IDE of choice
> for
> > > > TomEE web application developers. I guess that isn't the case.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to point out that the TomEE documentation says this:
> > > >
> > > > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> > > TomEE
> > > > ... TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans"
> > > >
> > > > At this URL: http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html
> > > >
> > > > This statement seems to be misleading given what you said and my
> > > > experience. TomEE is NOT to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans.
> I
> > > > think what this should read is "TomEE developers aspire for TomEE to
> be
> > > to
> > > > IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans and are really excited about
> > > > IntelliJ support for TomEE and the future of this relationship." I'm
> > > just
> > > > saying. My experience with Netbeans has been really nice and
> pleasant.
> > > > The documentation has got me up and running quickly with all kinds
> of
> > > > tools, including JavaEE application development. IntelliJ has not.
> > > Using
> > > > the IntelliJ and TomEE documentation, I have not been able to get an
> > > > application running in IntelliJ (unless you count the application
> where
> > > > IntelliJ acted as a text editor). On the other hand, I have been
> able
> > to
> > > > build applications in Netbeans with just a couple hours of
> > documentation
> > > > reading and work. In Netbeans, boilerplate code is generated by
> > > clicking a
> > > > menu item labelled "New RESTful service". Perhaps this can be done
> in
> > > > IntelliJ and I just cannot figure it out.
> > > >
> > > > Or perhaps, expert developers for JavaEE web applications on TomEE
> use
> > > > Eclipse and WTP. If this is the case, then I request the
> documentation
> > > be
> > > > updated on the TomEE website to reflect this. I understand the
> > > developers
> > > > of TomEE are excited about first class support in a leading IDE. As
> a
> > > user
> > > > of TomEE I've spent an estimate of 30 hours trying to get IntelliJ to
> > > work
> > > > with TomEE under the impression that if I get this to work, I'll be
> > > > leveraging powerful tools to enhance my ability to develop quality
> > > > applications quickly. I was under the impression that I just needed
> to
> > > > learn the tools... now I'm realizing that in fact, these are the
> wrong
> > > > tools to be using if what I want is powerful tools to increase the
> > speed
> > > of
> > > > development and quality of the applications I develop.
> > > >
> > > > Are the tools to use: Eclipse + WTP? Is this what the gurus use?
> As a
> > > > budding Java EE developer... should I use TomEE + Eclipse + WTP? I'm
> > > > willing to invest the time to learn the tools... I do need good
> > > > documentation, though.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > writing your experience is always important, for us and for
> Intellij
> > to
> > > > see
> > > > > how to improve it (feel free to open an issue on their bugtracker
> to
> > > ask
> > > > > for a better integration if you don't like it).
> > > > >
> > > > > About what users do: webapp dev uses often eclipse + wtp,
> personally
> > i
> > > > love
> > > > > tomee mvn plugin (ok ok i'm for a big part of this tool :p) which
> > makes
> > > > the
> > > > > container config and the deployment very easy to handle and close
> to
> > > what
> > > > > you have in prod (opposed to WTP which is just wrong even if it
> > works).
> > > > >
> > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/6/3 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Everyone, I'm still looking for good tutorials or
> documentation
> > on
> > > > > using
> > > > > > Intellij with TomEE. I have a long story below of my experiences
> > and
> > > > > > frustrations... but you can stop reading after this paragraph if
> > you
> > > > > aren't
> > > > > > interested in that and just know that I'm looking for
> > documentation,
> > > > > > tutorials, and a community of users for support. If you know of
> > any
> > > of
> > > > > > those, please send them my way. At the end of this message, I
> > > volunteer
> > > > > my
> > > > > > time to help with documentation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm feeling sad that I haven't found any tutorials or
> documentation
> > > on
> > > > > > creating a web service or RESTful application in IntelliJ and
> > haven't
> > > > > been
> > > > > > able to get past a simple jury rigged web service. I want to use
> > the
> > > > > tools
> > > > > > that everyone else is using and recommending (that seems to be
> > > > IntelliJ).
> > > > > > I am looking for support in learning about TomEE and getting in
> > > touch
> > > > > with
> > > > > > a community of folks that answer each others questions. In the
> > past
> > > I
> > > > > > found this with Rails through IRC, StackOverflow, meet ups, and
> > > > friends.
> > > > > > I'm feeling really isolated with TomEE and IntelliJ, but I just
> > know
> > > > > there
> > > > > > must be lots of people out there using these tools.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will you help me get in touch with the community of developers
> that
> > > > uses
> > > > > > TomEE and IntelliJ? Is this mailing list the place to go for
> > > questions
> > > > > and
> > > > > > support? Is there an IRC? I didn't see much on StackOverflow,
> so
> > > I'm
> > > > > > guessing not many people go there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there documentation? Tutorials?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm working on a project that has an existing tool to model
> > > biological
> > > > > > systems and the tool is slow. I'm confident that the use of
> > TomEE...
> > > > or
> > > > > > Rails (if it comes down to it) will greatly improve the
> performance
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > application. See
> > > > http://integrativebioinformatics.com/processdb.htmlfor
> > > > > > more about the tool I'm working on, in case you're curious. I'm
> > > > excited
> > > > > to
> > > > > > be part of several projects in computational biology and bringing
> > > > cutting
> > > > > > edge technology and performance to theoretical biologists. And I
> > > just
> > > > > have
> > > > > > this gut feeling that TomEE is a great tool to bring to this
> > problem
> > > > > > domain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just need more documentation and support to be successful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have created a web service and RESTful application running in
> > TomEE
> > > > in
> > > > > > several different development environments... I used Maven on the
> > > > command
> > > > > > line with Vim and other command line tools. I used NetBeans. I
> > > > manually
> > > > > > downloaded the examples and (compiled only) with maven and
> > installed
> > > > > > (deployed) manually. I've spent the last 3-4 months working with
> > > TomEE
> > > > > and
> > > > > > various tools. I've even integrated our database with a custom
> EJB
> > > > > running
> > > > > > in the TomEE container and benchmarked the results to tell my
> > client
> > > > that
> > > > > > "Yes, this will speed things up... a lot!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As for IntelliJ... not so productive or lucky. I managed...
> after
> > > days
> > > > > of
> > > > > > work... to get a the simple Calculator web service example to
> > work...
> > > > it
> > > > > > took hand editing of lots of files within IntelliJ which
> > essentially
> > > > > turned
> > > > > > IntelliJ (I'm talking about IDEA here, of course) into a text
> > editor
> > > > with
> > > > > > the ability to start and stop the application server. I cannot
> > > believe
> > > > > > that how I'm using IntelliJ is how expert TomEE/IntelliJ
> developers
> > > use
> > > > > > it... and would like to see a tutorial that walks through how I
> > > should
> > > > be
> > > > > > using these tools to maximize the power of the tools.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can actually write a tutorial on what I did to get a web
> service
> > > > > running
> > > > > > in TomEE using IntelliJ IDEA... I'm embarrassed to do so :-) and
> > > expose
> > > > > my
> > > > > > ignorance, lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However... I will do so if you request it, so that you can see
> what
> > > I'm
> > > > > > doing and give me feedback on the proper way to do things... and
> in
> > > > > fact...
> > > > > > I would actually modify the tutorial per your advice until it's a
> > > > > valuable
> > > > > > asset to the community... and then I will publish it on my blog
> (or
> > > you
> > > > > > could use it on the tomee.apache.org website, if you feel the
> > > quality
> > > > > and
> > > > > > usefulness of the tutorial would benefit the larger community
> that
> > > > much).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > Jason
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <
> jzwolak@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a
> > web
> > > > > > > application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> > > > > > > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on
> > > Apache
> > > > > > > TomEE."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all
> > > other
> > > > > IDE
> > > > > > > integrations."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your
> > > feedback
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > a critcal part of that."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use
> > > > Intellij
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > TomEE together! :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by "Leonardo K. Shikida" <sh...@gmail.com>.
speaking about books and tutorials, I'd love to buy a tomEE+ book if there
was any :-(
it's a great project, but it's still starting and it needs our help to get
traction.
so let's write lots of blog posts and tutorials and share
;-)
[]
Leo
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, it does seem to be IDE related... I'm posting here because the TomEE
> documentation recommends IntelliJ and I spent about 30 hours working with
> IntelliJ and TomEE before I could get things working. I would like the
> TomEE team to revise the documentation at
> http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html to clearly state that
> IntelliJ has limited support for TomEE. Or at least state that they
> believe TomEE will be to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans. That's my
> request. I won't hold it against the developers if they decide not to do
> this.
>
> I'll end this thread here with a tutorial I wrote after 30 hours of work
> understanding TomEE, IntelliJ and the integration of the two. This is the
> documentation I've been looking for!! I hope it's useful to someone else.
> I am a little embarrassed that it took 30 hours to figure this out... it
> seems so simple. Alas... it did and I may not be the only one.
>
>
> http://jason.zwolak.org/technoblog/2013/06/restful-service-with-tomee-and-intellij-idea/
>
> --
> Jason Zwolak
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > which version of intellij do you have?
> >
> > in the ultimate one you can generate stubs etc...
> >
> > thinking to it i wonder if this thread shouldn't move over idea forum
> (you
> > can still ask us for tomee specific things but it looks like an IDE issue
> > more than a server one)
> >
> > wdyt?
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/4 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Thank you, Romain!
> > >
> > > Romain, I canot say that I don't like the integration of TomEE with
> > > IntelliJ, because I don't know what the integration can do! This is my
> > > problem. I don't know how to leverage the integration of TomEE with
> > > IntelliJ.
> > >
> > > Is the only thing that IntelliJ has is a item to select TomEE as the
> > > application server? There must be more.
> > >
> > > Here's what I'm looking for:
> > > Buttons/menu items that create boiler plate code for a web service,
> for a
> > > restful service, for an entity tied to a database, WSDL, and other
> JavaEE
> > > related application code.
> > >
> > > I would like to, in 5 minutes or less, click a couple buttons and make
> a
> > > few selections and have a RESTful service up and running that does
> > > essentially nothing, but has all the boilerplate code. I don't want to
> > > type a single line of code in this process, but I do expect to be able
> to
> > > name a few things. Then, I want to be able to hit "Run" and see the
> > > results of this essentially empty RESTful service. After that, I'll
> type
> > > the code that does my application specific functions and modify
> > boilerplate
> > > code if necessary (but probably not).
> > >
> > > Here's a little more of my frustrating rant, with a few suggestions for
> > > TomEE documentation changes. I wish I had the energy to edit this and
> > trim
> > > it down to the essential things I want to say, but I'm feeling so
> > > frustrated with my experience with IntelliJ and TomEE. I like to think
> > I'm
> > > a competent developer and I've developed all sorts of web applications
> in
> > > Rails, I've developed a really fast biological simulator that has a
> > > built-in custom interpreter and compiler that are optimized to the
> > problem
> > > domain, but for some reason I find myself feeling isolated and alone
> > when I
> > > try to look for documentation and support for TomEE and IntelliJ. That
> > > said, I really appreciate your reply Romain, and don't want you to
> think
> > > that I'm ungrateful.
> > >
> > > Hmm... so on to some more documentation and other frustrations:
> > >
> > > I was under the impression that IntelliJ IDEA was the IDE of choice for
> > > TomEE web application developers. I guess that isn't the case.
> > >
> > > I would like to point out that the TomEE documentation says this:
> > >
> > > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> > TomEE
> > > ... TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans"
> > >
> > > At this URL: http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html
> > >
> > > This statement seems to be misleading given what you said and my
> > > experience. TomEE is NOT to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans. I
> > > think what this should read is "TomEE developers aspire for TomEE to be
> > to
> > > IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans and are really excited about
> > > IntelliJ support for TomEE and the future of this relationship." I'm
> > just
> > > saying. My experience with Netbeans has been really nice and pleasant.
> > > The documentation has got me up and running quickly with all kinds of
> > > tools, including JavaEE application development. IntelliJ has not.
> > Using
> > > the IntelliJ and TomEE documentation, I have not been able to get an
> > > application running in IntelliJ (unless you count the application where
> > > IntelliJ acted as a text editor). On the other hand, I have been able
> to
> > > build applications in Netbeans with just a couple hours of
> documentation
> > > reading and work. In Netbeans, boilerplate code is generated by
> > clicking a
> > > menu item labelled "New RESTful service". Perhaps this can be done in
> > > IntelliJ and I just cannot figure it out.
> > >
> > > Or perhaps, expert developers for JavaEE web applications on TomEE use
> > > Eclipse and WTP. If this is the case, then I request the documentation
> > be
> > > updated on the TomEE website to reflect this. I understand the
> > developers
> > > of TomEE are excited about first class support in a leading IDE. As a
> > user
> > > of TomEE I've spent an estimate of 30 hours trying to get IntelliJ to
> > work
> > > with TomEE under the impression that if I get this to work, I'll be
> > > leveraging powerful tools to enhance my ability to develop quality
> > > applications quickly. I was under the impression that I just needed to
> > > learn the tools... now I'm realizing that in fact, these are the wrong
> > > tools to be using if what I want is powerful tools to increase the
> speed
> > of
> > > development and quality of the applications I develop.
> > >
> > > Are the tools to use: Eclipse + WTP? Is this what the gurus use? As a
> > > budding Java EE developer... should I use TomEE + Eclipse + WTP? I'm
> > > willing to invest the time to learn the tools... I do need good
> > > documentation, though.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Zwolak
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > writing your experience is always important, for us and for Intellij
> to
> > > see
> > > > how to improve it (feel free to open an issue on their bugtracker to
> > ask
> > > > for a better integration if you don't like it).
> > > >
> > > > About what users do: webapp dev uses often eclipse + wtp, personally
> i
> > > love
> > > > tomee mvn plugin (ok ok i'm for a big part of this tool :p) which
> makes
> > > the
> > > > container config and the deployment very easy to handle and close to
> > what
> > > > you have in prod (opposed to WTP which is just wrong even if it
> works).
> > > >
> > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/3 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Everyone, I'm still looking for good tutorials or documentation
> on
> > > > using
> > > > > Intellij with TomEE. I have a long story below of my experiences
> and
> > > > > frustrations... but you can stop reading after this paragraph if
> you
> > > > aren't
> > > > > interested in that and just know that I'm looking for
> documentation,
> > > > > tutorials, and a community of users for support. If you know of
> any
> > of
> > > > > those, please send them my way. At the end of this message, I
> > volunteer
> > > > my
> > > > > time to help with documentation.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm feeling sad that I haven't found any tutorials or documentation
> > on
> > > > > creating a web service or RESTful application in IntelliJ and
> haven't
> > > > been
> > > > > able to get past a simple jury rigged web service. I want to use
> the
> > > > tools
> > > > > that everyone else is using and recommending (that seems to be
> > > IntelliJ).
> > > > > I am looking for support in learning about TomEE and getting in
> > touch
> > > > with
> > > > > a community of folks that answer each others questions. In the
> past
> > I
> > > > > found this with Rails through IRC, StackOverflow, meet ups, and
> > > friends.
> > > > > I'm feeling really isolated with TomEE and IntelliJ, but I just
> know
> > > > there
> > > > > must be lots of people out there using these tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will you help me get in touch with the community of developers that
> > > uses
> > > > > TomEE and IntelliJ? Is this mailing list the place to go for
> > questions
> > > > and
> > > > > support? Is there an IRC? I didn't see much on StackOverflow, so
> > I'm
> > > > > guessing not many people go there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there documentation? Tutorials?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm working on a project that has an existing tool to model
> > biological
> > > > > systems and the tool is slow. I'm confident that the use of
> TomEE...
> > > or
> > > > > Rails (if it comes down to it) will greatly improve the performance
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > application. See
> > > http://integrativebioinformatics.com/processdb.htmlfor
> > > > > more about the tool I'm working on, in case you're curious. I'm
> > > excited
> > > > to
> > > > > be part of several projects in computational biology and bringing
> > > cutting
> > > > > edge technology and performance to theoretical biologists. And I
> > just
> > > > have
> > > > > this gut feeling that TomEE is a great tool to bring to this
> problem
> > > > > domain.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just need more documentation and support to be successful.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have created a web service and RESTful application running in
> TomEE
> > > in
> > > > > several different development environments... I used Maven on the
> > > command
> > > > > line with Vim and other command line tools. I used NetBeans. I
> > > manually
> > > > > downloaded the examples and (compiled only) with maven and
> installed
> > > > > (deployed) manually. I've spent the last 3-4 months working with
> > TomEE
> > > > and
> > > > > various tools. I've even integrated our database with a custom EJB
> > > > running
> > > > > in the TomEE container and benchmarked the results to tell my
> client
> > > that
> > > > > "Yes, this will speed things up... a lot!"
> > > > >
> > > > > As for IntelliJ... not so productive or lucky. I managed... after
> > days
> > > > of
> > > > > work... to get a the simple Calculator web service example to
> work...
> > > it
> > > > > took hand editing of lots of files within IntelliJ which
> essentially
> > > > turned
> > > > > IntelliJ (I'm talking about IDEA here, of course) into a text
> editor
> > > with
> > > > > the ability to start and stop the application server. I cannot
> > believe
> > > > > that how I'm using IntelliJ is how expert TomEE/IntelliJ developers
> > use
> > > > > it... and would like to see a tutorial that walks through how I
> > should
> > > be
> > > > > using these tools to maximize the power of the tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can actually write a tutorial on what I did to get a web service
> > > > running
> > > > > in TomEE using IntelliJ IDEA... I'm embarrassed to do so :-) and
> > expose
> > > > my
> > > > > ignorance, lol.
> > > > >
> > > > > However... I will do so if you request it, so that you can see what
> > I'm
> > > > > doing and give me feedback on the proper way to do things... and in
> > > > fact...
> > > > > I would actually modify the tutorial per your advice until it's a
> > > > valuable
> > > > > asset to the community... and then I will publish it on my blog (or
> > you
> > > > > could use it on the tomee.apache.org website, if you feel the
> > quality
> > > > and
> > > > > usefulness of the tutorial would benefit the larger community that
> > > much).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a
> web
> > > > > > application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> > > > > > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on
> > Apache
> > > > > > TomEE."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all
> > other
> > > > IDE
> > > > > > integrations."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your
> > feedback
> > > > is
> > > > > > a critcal part of that."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use
> > > Intellij
> > > > > and
> > > > > > TomEE together! :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>.
Yeah, it does seem to be IDE related... I'm posting here because the TomEE
documentation recommends IntelliJ and I spent about 30 hours working with
IntelliJ and TomEE before I could get things working. I would like the
TomEE team to revise the documentation at
http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html to clearly state that
IntelliJ has limited support for TomEE. Or at least state that they
believe TomEE will be to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans. That's my
request. I won't hold it against the developers if they decide not to do
this.
I'll end this thread here with a tutorial I wrote after 30 hours of work
understanding TomEE, IntelliJ and the integration of the two. This is the
documentation I've been looking for!! I hope it's useful to someone else.
I am a little embarrassed that it took 30 hours to figure this out... it
seems so simple. Alas... it did and I may not be the only one.
http://jason.zwolak.org/technoblog/2013/06/restful-service-with-tomee-and-intellij-idea/
--
Jason Zwolak
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> which version of intellij do you have?
>
> in the ultimate one you can generate stubs etc...
>
> thinking to it i wonder if this thread shouldn't move over idea forum (you
> can still ask us for tomee specific things but it looks like an IDE issue
> more than a server one)
>
> wdyt?
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
> 2013/6/4 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
>
> > Thank you, Romain!
> >
> > Romain, I canot say that I don't like the integration of TomEE with
> > IntelliJ, because I don't know what the integration can do! This is my
> > problem. I don't know how to leverage the integration of TomEE with
> > IntelliJ.
> >
> > Is the only thing that IntelliJ has is a item to select TomEE as the
> > application server? There must be more.
> >
> > Here's what I'm looking for:
> > Buttons/menu items that create boiler plate code for a web service, for a
> > restful service, for an entity tied to a database, WSDL, and other JavaEE
> > related application code.
> >
> > I would like to, in 5 minutes or less, click a couple buttons and make a
> > few selections and have a RESTful service up and running that does
> > essentially nothing, but has all the boilerplate code. I don't want to
> > type a single line of code in this process, but I do expect to be able to
> > name a few things. Then, I want to be able to hit "Run" and see the
> > results of this essentially empty RESTful service. After that, I'll type
> > the code that does my application specific functions and modify
> boilerplate
> > code if necessary (but probably not).
> >
> > Here's a little more of my frustrating rant, with a few suggestions for
> > TomEE documentation changes. I wish I had the energy to edit this and
> trim
> > it down to the essential things I want to say, but I'm feeling so
> > frustrated with my experience with IntelliJ and TomEE. I like to think
> I'm
> > a competent developer and I've developed all sorts of web applications in
> > Rails, I've developed a really fast biological simulator that has a
> > built-in custom interpreter and compiler that are optimized to the
> problem
> > domain, but for some reason I find myself feeling isolated and alone
> when I
> > try to look for documentation and support for TomEE and IntelliJ. That
> > said, I really appreciate your reply Romain, and don't want you to think
> > that I'm ungrateful.
> >
> > Hmm... so on to some more documentation and other frustrations:
> >
> > I was under the impression that IntelliJ IDEA was the IDE of choice for
> > TomEE web application developers. I guess that isn't the case.
> >
> > I would like to point out that the TomEE documentation says this:
> >
> > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> TomEE
> > ... TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans"
> >
> > At this URL: http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html
> >
> > This statement seems to be misleading given what you said and my
> > experience. TomEE is NOT to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans. I
> > think what this should read is "TomEE developers aspire for TomEE to be
> to
> > IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans and are really excited about
> > IntelliJ support for TomEE and the future of this relationship." I'm
> just
> > saying. My experience with Netbeans has been really nice and pleasant.
> > The documentation has got me up and running quickly with all kinds of
> > tools, including JavaEE application development. IntelliJ has not.
> Using
> > the IntelliJ and TomEE documentation, I have not been able to get an
> > application running in IntelliJ (unless you count the application where
> > IntelliJ acted as a text editor). On the other hand, I have been able to
> > build applications in Netbeans with just a couple hours of documentation
> > reading and work. In Netbeans, boilerplate code is generated by
> clicking a
> > menu item labelled "New RESTful service". Perhaps this can be done in
> > IntelliJ and I just cannot figure it out.
> >
> > Or perhaps, expert developers for JavaEE web applications on TomEE use
> > Eclipse and WTP. If this is the case, then I request the documentation
> be
> > updated on the TomEE website to reflect this. I understand the
> developers
> > of TomEE are excited about first class support in a leading IDE. As a
> user
> > of TomEE I've spent an estimate of 30 hours trying to get IntelliJ to
> work
> > with TomEE under the impression that if I get this to work, I'll be
> > leveraging powerful tools to enhance my ability to develop quality
> > applications quickly. I was under the impression that I just needed to
> > learn the tools... now I'm realizing that in fact, these are the wrong
> > tools to be using if what I want is powerful tools to increase the speed
> of
> > development and quality of the applications I develop.
> >
> > Are the tools to use: Eclipse + WTP? Is this what the gurus use? As a
> > budding Java EE developer... should I use TomEE + Eclipse + WTP? I'm
> > willing to invest the time to learn the tools... I do need good
> > documentation, though.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jason
> >
> > --
> > Jason Zwolak
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > writing your experience is always important, for us and for Intellij to
> > see
> > > how to improve it (feel free to open an issue on their bugtracker to
> ask
> > > for a better integration if you don't like it).
> > >
> > > About what users do: webapp dev uses often eclipse + wtp, personally i
> > love
> > > tomee mvn plugin (ok ok i'm for a big part of this tool :p) which makes
> > the
> > > container config and the deployment very easy to handle and close to
> what
> > > you have in prod (opposed to WTP which is just wrong even if it works).
> > >
> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/3 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Hi Everyone, I'm still looking for good tutorials or documentation on
> > > using
> > > > Intellij with TomEE. I have a long story below of my experiences and
> > > > frustrations... but you can stop reading after this paragraph if you
> > > aren't
> > > > interested in that and just know that I'm looking for documentation,
> > > > tutorials, and a community of users for support. If you know of any
> of
> > > > those, please send them my way. At the end of this message, I
> volunteer
> > > my
> > > > time to help with documentation.
> > > >
> > > > I'm feeling sad that I haven't found any tutorials or documentation
> on
> > > > creating a web service or RESTful application in IntelliJ and haven't
> > > been
> > > > able to get past a simple jury rigged web service. I want to use the
> > > tools
> > > > that everyone else is using and recommending (that seems to be
> > IntelliJ).
> > > > I am looking for support in learning about TomEE and getting in
> touch
> > > with
> > > > a community of folks that answer each others questions. In the past
> I
> > > > found this with Rails through IRC, StackOverflow, meet ups, and
> > friends.
> > > > I'm feeling really isolated with TomEE and IntelliJ, but I just know
> > > there
> > > > must be lots of people out there using these tools.
> > > >
> > > > Will you help me get in touch with the community of developers that
> > uses
> > > > TomEE and IntelliJ? Is this mailing list the place to go for
> questions
> > > and
> > > > support? Is there an IRC? I didn't see much on StackOverflow, so
> I'm
> > > > guessing not many people go there.
> > > >
> > > > Is there documentation? Tutorials?
> > > >
> > > > I'm working on a project that has an existing tool to model
> biological
> > > > systems and the tool is slow. I'm confident that the use of TomEE...
> > or
> > > > Rails (if it comes down to it) will greatly improve the performance
> of
> > > the
> > > > application. See
> > http://integrativebioinformatics.com/processdb.htmlfor
> > > > more about the tool I'm working on, in case you're curious. I'm
> > excited
> > > to
> > > > be part of several projects in computational biology and bringing
> > cutting
> > > > edge technology and performance to theoretical biologists. And I
> just
> > > have
> > > > this gut feeling that TomEE is a great tool to bring to this problem
> > > > domain.
> > > >
> > > > I just need more documentation and support to be successful.
> > > >
> > > > I have created a web service and RESTful application running in TomEE
> > in
> > > > several different development environments... I used Maven on the
> > command
> > > > line with Vim and other command line tools. I used NetBeans. I
> > manually
> > > > downloaded the examples and (compiled only) with maven and installed
> > > > (deployed) manually. I've spent the last 3-4 months working with
> TomEE
> > > and
> > > > various tools. I've even integrated our database with a custom EJB
> > > running
> > > > in the TomEE container and benchmarked the results to tell my client
> > that
> > > > "Yes, this will speed things up... a lot!"
> > > >
> > > > As for IntelliJ... not so productive or lucky. I managed... after
> days
> > > of
> > > > work... to get a the simple Calculator web service example to work...
> > it
> > > > took hand editing of lots of files within IntelliJ which essentially
> > > turned
> > > > IntelliJ (I'm talking about IDEA here, of course) into a text editor
> > with
> > > > the ability to start and stop the application server. I cannot
> believe
> > > > that how I'm using IntelliJ is how expert TomEE/IntelliJ developers
> use
> > > > it... and would like to see a tutorial that walks through how I
> should
> > be
> > > > using these tools to maximize the power of the tools.
> > > >
> > > > I can actually write a tutorial on what I did to get a web service
> > > running
> > > > in TomEE using IntelliJ IDEA... I'm embarrassed to do so :-) and
> expose
> > > my
> > > > ignorance, lol.
> > > >
> > > > However... I will do so if you request it, so that you can see what
> I'm
> > > > doing and give me feedback on the proper way to do things... and in
> > > fact...
> > > > I would actually modify the tutorial per your advice until it's a
> > > valuable
> > > > asset to the community... and then I will publish it on my blog (or
> you
> > > > could use it on the tomee.apache.org website, if you feel the
> quality
> > > and
> > > > usefulness of the tutorial would benefit the larger community that
> > much).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
> > > > > application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> > > > > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
> > > > >
> > > > > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on
> Apache
> > > > > TomEE."
> > > > >
> > > > > "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all
> other
> > > IDE
> > > > > integrations."
> > > > >
> > > > > "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your
> feedback
> > > is
> > > > > a critcal part of that."
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use
> > Intellij
> > > > and
> > > > > TomEE together! :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
which version of intellij do you have?
in the ultimate one you can generate stubs etc...
thinking to it i wonder if this thread shouldn't move over idea forum (you
can still ask us for tomee specific things but it looks like an IDE issue
more than a server one)
wdyt?
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2013/6/4 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> Thank you, Romain!
>
> Romain, I canot say that I don't like the integration of TomEE with
> IntelliJ, because I don't know what the integration can do! This is my
> problem. I don't know how to leverage the integration of TomEE with
> IntelliJ.
>
> Is the only thing that IntelliJ has is a item to select TomEE as the
> application server? There must be more.
>
> Here's what I'm looking for:
> Buttons/menu items that create boiler plate code for a web service, for a
> restful service, for an entity tied to a database, WSDL, and other JavaEE
> related application code.
>
> I would like to, in 5 minutes or less, click a couple buttons and make a
> few selections and have a RESTful service up and running that does
> essentially nothing, but has all the boilerplate code. I don't want to
> type a single line of code in this process, but I do expect to be able to
> name a few things. Then, I want to be able to hit "Run" and see the
> results of this essentially empty RESTful service. After that, I'll type
> the code that does my application specific functions and modify boilerplate
> code if necessary (but probably not).
>
> Here's a little more of my frustrating rant, with a few suggestions for
> TomEE documentation changes. I wish I had the energy to edit this and trim
> it down to the essential things I want to say, but I'm feeling so
> frustrated with my experience with IntelliJ and TomEE. I like to think I'm
> a competent developer and I've developed all sorts of web applications in
> Rails, I've developed a really fast biological simulator that has a
> built-in custom interpreter and compiler that are optimized to the problem
> domain, but for some reason I find myself feeling isolated and alone when I
> try to look for documentation and support for TomEE and IntelliJ. That
> said, I really appreciate your reply Romain, and don't want you to think
> that I'm ungrateful.
>
> Hmm... so on to some more documentation and other frustrations:
>
> I was under the impression that IntelliJ IDEA was the IDE of choice for
> TomEE web application developers. I guess that isn't the case.
>
> I would like to point out that the TomEE documentation says this:
>
> "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache TomEE
> ... TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans"
>
> At this URL: http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html
>
> This statement seems to be misleading given what you said and my
> experience. TomEE is NOT to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans. I
> think what this should read is "TomEE developers aspire for TomEE to be to
> IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans and are really excited about
> IntelliJ support for TomEE and the future of this relationship." I'm just
> saying. My experience with Netbeans has been really nice and pleasant.
> The documentation has got me up and running quickly with all kinds of
> tools, including JavaEE application development. IntelliJ has not. Using
> the IntelliJ and TomEE documentation, I have not been able to get an
> application running in IntelliJ (unless you count the application where
> IntelliJ acted as a text editor). On the other hand, I have been able to
> build applications in Netbeans with just a couple hours of documentation
> reading and work. In Netbeans, boilerplate code is generated by clicking a
> menu item labelled "New RESTful service". Perhaps this can be done in
> IntelliJ and I just cannot figure it out.
>
> Or perhaps, expert developers for JavaEE web applications on TomEE use
> Eclipse and WTP. If this is the case, then I request the documentation be
> updated on the TomEE website to reflect this. I understand the developers
> of TomEE are excited about first class support in a leading IDE. As a user
> of TomEE I've spent an estimate of 30 hours trying to get IntelliJ to work
> with TomEE under the impression that if I get this to work, I'll be
> leveraging powerful tools to enhance my ability to develop quality
> applications quickly. I was under the impression that I just needed to
> learn the tools... now I'm realizing that in fact, these are the wrong
> tools to be using if what I want is powerful tools to increase the speed of
> development and quality of the applications I develop.
>
> Are the tools to use: Eclipse + WTP? Is this what the gurus use? As a
> budding Java EE developer... should I use TomEE + Eclipse + WTP? I'm
> willing to invest the time to learn the tools... I do need good
> documentation, though.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason Zwolak
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > writing your experience is always important, for us and for Intellij to
> see
> > how to improve it (feel free to open an issue on their bugtracker to ask
> > for a better integration if you don't like it).
> >
> > About what users do: webapp dev uses often eclipse + wtp, personally i
> love
> > tomee mvn plugin (ok ok i'm for a big part of this tool :p) which makes
> the
> > container config and the deployment very easy to handle and close to what
> > you have in prod (opposed to WTP which is just wrong even if it works).
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/3 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Hi Everyone, I'm still looking for good tutorials or documentation on
> > using
> > > Intellij with TomEE. I have a long story below of my experiences and
> > > frustrations... but you can stop reading after this paragraph if you
> > aren't
> > > interested in that and just know that I'm looking for documentation,
> > > tutorials, and a community of users for support. If you know of any of
> > > those, please send them my way. At the end of this message, I volunteer
> > my
> > > time to help with documentation.
> > >
> > > I'm feeling sad that I haven't found any tutorials or documentation on
> > > creating a web service or RESTful application in IntelliJ and haven't
> > been
> > > able to get past a simple jury rigged web service. I want to use the
> > tools
> > > that everyone else is using and recommending (that seems to be
> IntelliJ).
> > > I am looking for support in learning about TomEE and getting in touch
> > with
> > > a community of folks that answer each others questions. In the past I
> > > found this with Rails through IRC, StackOverflow, meet ups, and
> friends.
> > > I'm feeling really isolated with TomEE and IntelliJ, but I just know
> > there
> > > must be lots of people out there using these tools.
> > >
> > > Will you help me get in touch with the community of developers that
> uses
> > > TomEE and IntelliJ? Is this mailing list the place to go for questions
> > and
> > > support? Is there an IRC? I didn't see much on StackOverflow, so I'm
> > > guessing not many people go there.
> > >
> > > Is there documentation? Tutorials?
> > >
> > > I'm working on a project that has an existing tool to model biological
> > > systems and the tool is slow. I'm confident that the use of TomEE...
> or
> > > Rails (if it comes down to it) will greatly improve the performance of
> > the
> > > application. See
> http://integrativebioinformatics.com/processdb.htmlfor
> > > more about the tool I'm working on, in case you're curious. I'm
> excited
> > to
> > > be part of several projects in computational biology and bringing
> cutting
> > > edge technology and performance to theoretical biologists. And I just
> > have
> > > this gut feeling that TomEE is a great tool to bring to this problem
> > > domain.
> > >
> > > I just need more documentation and support to be successful.
> > >
> > > I have created a web service and RESTful application running in TomEE
> in
> > > several different development environments... I used Maven on the
> command
> > > line with Vim and other command line tools. I used NetBeans. I
> manually
> > > downloaded the examples and (compiled only) with maven and installed
> > > (deployed) manually. I've spent the last 3-4 months working with TomEE
> > and
> > > various tools. I've even integrated our database with a custom EJB
> > running
> > > in the TomEE container and benchmarked the results to tell my client
> that
> > > "Yes, this will speed things up... a lot!"
> > >
> > > As for IntelliJ... not so productive or lucky. I managed... after days
> > of
> > > work... to get a the simple Calculator web service example to work...
> it
> > > took hand editing of lots of files within IntelliJ which essentially
> > turned
> > > IntelliJ (I'm talking about IDEA here, of course) into a text editor
> with
> > > the ability to start and stop the application server. I cannot believe
> > > that how I'm using IntelliJ is how expert TomEE/IntelliJ developers use
> > > it... and would like to see a tutorial that walks through how I should
> be
> > > using these tools to maximize the power of the tools.
> > >
> > > I can actually write a tutorial on what I did to get a web service
> > running
> > > in TomEE using IntelliJ IDEA... I'm embarrassed to do so :-) and expose
> > my
> > > ignorance, lol.
> > >
> > > However... I will do so if you request it, so that you can see what I'm
> > > doing and give me feedback on the proper way to do things... and in
> > fact...
> > > I would actually modify the tutorial per your advice until it's a
> > valuable
> > > asset to the community... and then I will publish it on my blog (or you
> > > could use it on the tomee.apache.org website, if you feel the quality
> > and
> > > usefulness of the tutorial would benefit the larger community that
> much).
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jason Zwolak
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
> > > > application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
> > > >
> > > > It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> > > > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
> > > >
> > > > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> > > > TomEE."
> > > >
> > > > "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all other
> > IDE
> > > > integrations."
> > > >
> > > > "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your feedback
> > is
> > > > a critcal part of that."
> > > >
> > > > Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use
> Intellij
> > > and
> > > > TomEE together! :-)
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> > > > --
> > > > Jason Zwolak
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>.
Thank you, Romain!
Romain, I canot say that I don't like the integration of TomEE with
IntelliJ, because I don't know what the integration can do! This is my
problem. I don't know how to leverage the integration of TomEE with
IntelliJ.
Is the only thing that IntelliJ has is a item to select TomEE as the
application server? There must be more.
Here's what I'm looking for:
Buttons/menu items that create boiler plate code for a web service, for a
restful service, for an entity tied to a database, WSDL, and other JavaEE
related application code.
I would like to, in 5 minutes or less, click a couple buttons and make a
few selections and have a RESTful service up and running that does
essentially nothing, but has all the boilerplate code. I don't want to
type a single line of code in this process, but I do expect to be able to
name a few things. Then, I want to be able to hit "Run" and see the
results of this essentially empty RESTful service. After that, I'll type
the code that does my application specific functions and modify boilerplate
code if necessary (but probably not).
Here's a little more of my frustrating rant, with a few suggestions for
TomEE documentation changes. I wish I had the energy to edit this and trim
it down to the essential things I want to say, but I'm feeling so
frustrated with my experience with IntelliJ and TomEE. I like to think I'm
a competent developer and I've developed all sorts of web applications in
Rails, I've developed a really fast biological simulator that has a
built-in custom interpreter and compiler that are optimized to the problem
domain, but for some reason I find myself feeling isolated and alone when I
try to look for documentation and support for TomEE and IntelliJ. That
said, I really appreciate your reply Romain, and don't want you to think
that I'm ungrateful.
Hmm... so on to some more documentation and other frustrations:
I was under the impression that IntelliJ IDEA was the IDE of choice for
TomEE web application developers. I guess that isn't the case.
I would like to point out that the TomEE documentation says this:
"Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache TomEE
... TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans"
At this URL: http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html
This statement seems to be misleading given what you said and my
experience. TomEE is NOT to IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans. I
think what this should read is "TomEE developers aspire for TomEE to be to
IntelliJ what Glassfish is to Netbeans and are really excited about
IntelliJ support for TomEE and the future of this relationship." I'm just
saying. My experience with Netbeans has been really nice and pleasant.
The documentation has got me up and running quickly with all kinds of
tools, including JavaEE application development. IntelliJ has not. Using
the IntelliJ and TomEE documentation, I have not been able to get an
application running in IntelliJ (unless you count the application where
IntelliJ acted as a text editor). On the other hand, I have been able to
build applications in Netbeans with just a couple hours of documentation
reading and work. In Netbeans, boilerplate code is generated by clicking a
menu item labelled "New RESTful service". Perhaps this can be done in
IntelliJ and I just cannot figure it out.
Or perhaps, expert developers for JavaEE web applications on TomEE use
Eclipse and WTP. If this is the case, then I request the documentation be
updated on the TomEE website to reflect this. I understand the developers
of TomEE are excited about first class support in a leading IDE. As a user
of TomEE I've spent an estimate of 30 hours trying to get IntelliJ to work
with TomEE under the impression that if I get this to work, I'll be
leveraging powerful tools to enhance my ability to develop quality
applications quickly. I was under the impression that I just needed to
learn the tools... now I'm realizing that in fact, these are the wrong
tools to be using if what I want is powerful tools to increase the speed of
development and quality of the applications I develop.
Are the tools to use: Eclipse + WTP? Is this what the gurus use? As a
budding Java EE developer... should I use TomEE + Eclipse + WTP? I'm
willing to invest the time to learn the tools... I do need good
documentation, though.
Thanks,
Jason
--
Jason Zwolak
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi
>
> writing your experience is always important, for us and for Intellij to see
> how to improve it (feel free to open an issue on their bugtracker to ask
> for a better integration if you don't like it).
>
> About what users do: webapp dev uses often eclipse + wtp, personally i love
> tomee mvn plugin (ok ok i'm for a big part of this tool :p) which makes the
> container config and the deployment very easy to handle and close to what
> you have in prod (opposed to WTP which is just wrong even if it works).
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
> 2013/6/3 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
>
> > Hi Everyone, I'm still looking for good tutorials or documentation on
> using
> > Intellij with TomEE. I have a long story below of my experiences and
> > frustrations... but you can stop reading after this paragraph if you
> aren't
> > interested in that and just know that I'm looking for documentation,
> > tutorials, and a community of users for support. If you know of any of
> > those, please send them my way. At the end of this message, I volunteer
> my
> > time to help with documentation.
> >
> > I'm feeling sad that I haven't found any tutorials or documentation on
> > creating a web service or RESTful application in IntelliJ and haven't
> been
> > able to get past a simple jury rigged web service. I want to use the
> tools
> > that everyone else is using and recommending (that seems to be IntelliJ).
> > I am looking for support in learning about TomEE and getting in touch
> with
> > a community of folks that answer each others questions. In the past I
> > found this with Rails through IRC, StackOverflow, meet ups, and friends.
> > I'm feeling really isolated with TomEE and IntelliJ, but I just know
> there
> > must be lots of people out there using these tools.
> >
> > Will you help me get in touch with the community of developers that uses
> > TomEE and IntelliJ? Is this mailing list the place to go for questions
> and
> > support? Is there an IRC? I didn't see much on StackOverflow, so I'm
> > guessing not many people go there.
> >
> > Is there documentation? Tutorials?
> >
> > I'm working on a project that has an existing tool to model biological
> > systems and the tool is slow. I'm confident that the use of TomEE... or
> > Rails (if it comes down to it) will greatly improve the performance of
> the
> > application. See http://integrativebioinformatics.com/processdb.htmlfor
> > more about the tool I'm working on, in case you're curious. I'm excited
> to
> > be part of several projects in computational biology and bringing cutting
> > edge technology and performance to theoretical biologists. And I just
> have
> > this gut feeling that TomEE is a great tool to bring to this problem
> > domain.
> >
> > I just need more documentation and support to be successful.
> >
> > I have created a web service and RESTful application running in TomEE in
> > several different development environments... I used Maven on the command
> > line with Vim and other command line tools. I used NetBeans. I manually
> > downloaded the examples and (compiled only) with maven and installed
> > (deployed) manually. I've spent the last 3-4 months working with TomEE
> and
> > various tools. I've even integrated our database with a custom EJB
> running
> > in the TomEE container and benchmarked the results to tell my client that
> > "Yes, this will speed things up... a lot!"
> >
> > As for IntelliJ... not so productive or lucky. I managed... after days
> of
> > work... to get a the simple Calculator web service example to work... it
> > took hand editing of lots of files within IntelliJ which essentially
> turned
> > IntelliJ (I'm talking about IDEA here, of course) into a text editor with
> > the ability to start and stop the application server. I cannot believe
> > that how I'm using IntelliJ is how expert TomEE/IntelliJ developers use
> > it... and would like to see a tutorial that walks through how I should be
> > using these tools to maximize the power of the tools.
> >
> > I can actually write a tutorial on what I did to get a web service
> running
> > in TomEE using IntelliJ IDEA... I'm embarrassed to do so :-) and expose
> my
> > ignorance, lol.
> >
> > However... I will do so if you request it, so that you can see what I'm
> > doing and give me feedback on the proper way to do things... and in
> fact...
> > I would actually modify the tutorial per your advice until it's a
> valuable
> > asset to the community... and then I will publish it on my blog (or you
> > could use it on the tomee.apache.org website, if you feel the quality
> and
> > usefulness of the tutorial would benefit the larger community that much).
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Jason
> >
> > --
> > Jason Zwolak
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
> > > application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
> > >
> > > It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> > > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
> > >
> > > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> > > TomEE."
> > >
> > > "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all other
> IDE
> > > integrations."
> > >
> > > "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your feedback
> is
> > > a critcal part of that."
> > >
> > > Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use Intellij
> > and
> > > TomEE together! :-)
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> > > --
> > > Jason Zwolak
> > >
> >
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi
writing your experience is always important, for us and for Intellij to see
how to improve it (feel free to open an issue on their bugtracker to ask
for a better integration if you don't like it).
About what users do: webapp dev uses often eclipse + wtp, personally i love
tomee mvn plugin (ok ok i'm for a big part of this tool :p) which makes the
container config and the deployment very easy to handle and close to what
you have in prod (opposed to WTP which is just wrong even if it works).
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2013/6/3 Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>
> Hi Everyone, I'm still looking for good tutorials or documentation on using
> Intellij with TomEE. I have a long story below of my experiences and
> frustrations... but you can stop reading after this paragraph if you aren't
> interested in that and just know that I'm looking for documentation,
> tutorials, and a community of users for support. If you know of any of
> those, please send them my way. At the end of this message, I volunteer my
> time to help with documentation.
>
> I'm feeling sad that I haven't found any tutorials or documentation on
> creating a web service or RESTful application in IntelliJ and haven't been
> able to get past a simple jury rigged web service. I want to use the tools
> that everyone else is using and recommending (that seems to be IntelliJ).
> I am looking for support in learning about TomEE and getting in touch with
> a community of folks that answer each others questions. In the past I
> found this with Rails through IRC, StackOverflow, meet ups, and friends.
> I'm feeling really isolated with TomEE and IntelliJ, but I just know there
> must be lots of people out there using these tools.
>
> Will you help me get in touch with the community of developers that uses
> TomEE and IntelliJ? Is this mailing list the place to go for questions and
> support? Is there an IRC? I didn't see much on StackOverflow, so I'm
> guessing not many people go there.
>
> Is there documentation? Tutorials?
>
> I'm working on a project that has an existing tool to model biological
> systems and the tool is slow. I'm confident that the use of TomEE... or
> Rails (if it comes down to it) will greatly improve the performance of the
> application. See http://integrativebioinformatics.com/processdb.html for
> more about the tool I'm working on, in case you're curious. I'm excited to
> be part of several projects in computational biology and bringing cutting
> edge technology and performance to theoretical biologists. And I just have
> this gut feeling that TomEE is a great tool to bring to this problem
> domain.
>
> I just need more documentation and support to be successful.
>
> I have created a web service and RESTful application running in TomEE in
> several different development environments... I used Maven on the command
> line with Vim and other command line tools. I used NetBeans. I manually
> downloaded the examples and (compiled only) with maven and installed
> (deployed) manually. I've spent the last 3-4 months working with TomEE and
> various tools. I've even integrated our database with a custom EJB running
> in the TomEE container and benchmarked the results to tell my client that
> "Yes, this will speed things up... a lot!"
>
> As for IntelliJ... not so productive or lucky. I managed... after days of
> work... to get a the simple Calculator web service example to work... it
> took hand editing of lots of files within IntelliJ which essentially turned
> IntelliJ (I'm talking about IDEA here, of course) into a text editor with
> the ability to start and stop the application server. I cannot believe
> that how I'm using IntelliJ is how expert TomEE/IntelliJ developers use
> it... and would like to see a tutorial that walks through how I should be
> using these tools to maximize the power of the tools.
>
> I can actually write a tutorial on what I did to get a web service running
> in TomEE using IntelliJ IDEA... I'm embarrassed to do so :-) and expose my
> ignorance, lol.
>
> However... I will do so if you request it, so that you can see what I'm
> doing and give me feedback on the proper way to do things... and in fact...
> I would actually modify the tutorial per your advice until it's a valuable
> asset to the community... and then I will publish it on my blog (or you
> could use it on the tomee.apache.org website, if you feel the quality and
> usefulness of the tutorial would benefit the larger community that much).
>
> Thanks!
> Jason
>
> --
> Jason Zwolak
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
> > application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
> >
> > It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> > http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
> >
> > "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> > TomEE."
> >
> > "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all other IDE
> > integrations."
> >
> > "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your feedback is
> > a critcal part of that."
> >
> > Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use Intellij
> and
> > TomEE together! :-)
> >
> > Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> > --
> > Jason Zwolak
> >
>
Re: Intellij / TomEE tutorial? documentation? anything?
Posted by Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com>.
Hi Everyone, I'm still looking for good tutorials or documentation on using
Intellij with TomEE. I have a long story below of my experiences and
frustrations... but you can stop reading after this paragraph if you aren't
interested in that and just know that I'm looking for documentation,
tutorials, and a community of users for support. If you know of any of
those, please send them my way. At the end of this message, I volunteer my
time to help with documentation.
I'm feeling sad that I haven't found any tutorials or documentation on
creating a web service or RESTful application in IntelliJ and haven't been
able to get past a simple jury rigged web service. I want to use the tools
that everyone else is using and recommending (that seems to be IntelliJ).
I am looking for support in learning about TomEE and getting in touch with
a community of folks that answer each others questions. In the past I
found this with Rails through IRC, StackOverflow, meet ups, and friends.
I'm feeling really isolated with TomEE and IntelliJ, but I just know there
must be lots of people out there using these tools.
Will you help me get in touch with the community of developers that uses
TomEE and IntelliJ? Is this mailing list the place to go for questions and
support? Is there an IRC? I didn't see much on StackOverflow, so I'm
guessing not many people go there.
Is there documentation? Tutorials?
I'm working on a project that has an existing tool to model biological
systems and the tool is slow. I'm confident that the use of TomEE... or
Rails (if it comes down to it) will greatly improve the performance of the
application. See http://integrativebioinformatics.com/processdb.html for
more about the tool I'm working on, in case you're curious. I'm excited to
be part of several projects in computational biology and bringing cutting
edge technology and performance to theoretical biologists. And I just have
this gut feeling that TomEE is a great tool to bring to this problem domain.
I just need more documentation and support to be successful.
I have created a web service and RESTful application running in TomEE in
several different development environments... I used Maven on the command
line with Vim and other command line tools. I used NetBeans. I manually
downloaded the examples and (compiled only) with maven and installed
(deployed) manually. I've spent the last 3-4 months working with TomEE and
various tools. I've even integrated our database with a custom EJB running
in the TomEE container and benchmarked the results to tell my client that
"Yes, this will speed things up... a lot!"
As for IntelliJ... not so productive or lucky. I managed... after days of
work... to get a the simple Calculator web service example to work... it
took hand editing of lots of files within IntelliJ which essentially turned
IntelliJ (I'm talking about IDEA here, of course) into a text editor with
the ability to start and stop the application server. I cannot believe
that how I'm using IntelliJ is how expert TomEE/IntelliJ developers use
it... and would like to see a tutorial that walks through how I should be
using these tools to maximize the power of the tools.
I can actually write a tutorial on what I did to get a web service running
in TomEE using IntelliJ IDEA... I'm embarrassed to do so :-) and expose my
ignorance, lol.
However... I will do so if you request it, so that you can see what I'm
doing and give me feedback on the proper way to do things... and in fact...
I would actually modify the tutorial per your advice until it's a valuable
asset to the community... and then I will publish it on my blog (or you
could use it on the tomee.apache.org website, if you feel the quality and
usefulness of the tutorial would benefit the larger community that much).
Thanks!
Jason
--
Jason Zwolak
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Jason Zwolak <jz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for a good tutorial or documentation on creating a web
> application using Intellij that will run on top of TomEE.
>
> It seems that this would be easy given the TomEE website (
> http://tomee.apache.org/tomee-and-intellij.html ) saying
>
> "Intellij is the preferred editor of most of the developers on Apache
> TomEE."
>
> "The evolving TomEE/Intellij integration sets the pace for all other IDE
> integrations."
>
> "TomEE is to Intellij what GlassFish is to NetBeans and your feedback is
> a critcal part of that."
>
> Well, my feedback is: create some documentation on how to use Intellij and
> TomEE together! :-)
>
> Does anyone know of good tutorials or documentation?
> --
> Jason Zwolak
>