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Posted to jdo-dev@db.apache.org by Michelle Caisse <Mi...@Sun.COM> on 2005/12/23 03:41:31 UTC

JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Dec 23, 9 am PST

Hi,

We will have our regular meeting Friday, December 16 at 9 am PST to 
discuss JDO TCK issues and status.

Dial-in numbers are:
866 230-6968   294-0479#
International: +1 865 544-7856

Agenda:

1. Test status (Michelle)
2. Graduation issues, changes to the repository (Craig)
3. Query tests (Michael B)
4. Fieldtypes test status (Michelle)
5. Running TCK on iut status (Michelle)
6. Other issues (any and all)

Action Items from weeks past:

[Dec 16 2005] a. JDO-243 select a field that is not part of the 
grouping; order by a field that is not selected
What about select sum(a) group by b, order by avg(c)
AI: Craig add clarification/update to the spec, in particular require 
that ordering terms when grouping must be either grouping terms or 
aggregates. Consider adding an implementation note that the SQL query 
might have more terms selected than the JDOQL query specifies, and the 
extra terms are not given to the user.

[Dec 16 2005] JDO-220 jdoPostLoad callback not invoked during queries. 
AI: Michelle and Craig will take a look.

[Dec 9 2005] What optional feature is making inheritance mapping 3 fail? 
AI:  Craig discuss with expert group.

[Dec 9 2005]: <>Michael sent a message to the expert group regarding 
lost updates to relationship fields in case the non-owning side made the 
update. AI: Craig reply and propose a spec change to require not losing 
updates. This is incompatible with the current draft of EJB 3.

[Dec 9 2005]: Nontransactional write semantics appear to differ between 
optimistic and datastore transactions. Is this intentional? AI: Craig 
discuss with expert group.

[Dec 2 2005] Inheritance 3 fails. Optimization of inheritance 1 where 
there is no  table for abstract classes. JPOX doesn't support it. AI 
Craig:  discuss this mapping with expert group. It might be an optional 
feature.

[Nov 18 2005] AI: BEA to sign the donation paperwork for their test  
suite. Review how to merge their test cases into JDO TCK.

[Nov 4 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK  1.5 
issues. in progress

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Michelle distill the mapping support that JPOX has  
into a list of features that are/are not supported.

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Craig discuss mapping options with expert group.

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Push jars to Apache repository (Craig) In progress.  
Several things need to be updated, including project.properties,  
project.xml and maven.xml.

[Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web site. Articles on  
TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo. AI:  
Craig write a ServerSide article.

[Aug 12 2005] AI: Craig to propose release of API20 and the entire 11  
release (API, RI, TCK). This generated a large response on the  
incubator alias.

[Aug 5 2005] AI: Brian McCallister can send info on the instructions  
how to sync Apache and ibiblio.  Re: Brian Topping needs info on  
creating a maven package.

[July 29 2005] AI: Michelle Chapter 18 wiki needs to be updated to  
include all JDO metadata elements and attributes. [not done]

[July 29 2005] AI: (Craig, Brian T.) Need some permissions that Brian  
is working on.

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will update the wiki to tell how to  
access our releases area.

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will do the maven goal for creating  
and uploading the snapshots. He will create a directory parallel to  
trunk called "releases" and put the snapshots there.

[May 13 2005] AI: Brian Topping will arrange for automated nightly  builds.

[May 20 2005] AI: Craig to define the JCP distributions and see if  
maven can help.


Re: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Jan 5, 9 am PST

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Attendees: Michael Bouschen, Matthew Adams, Michelle Caisse, Martin  
Zaun, Craig Russell

On Jan 5, 2006, at 4:52 PM, Michelle Caisse wrote:

Agenda:

1. Test status (Michael) 4 of 28 configurations fail: the usual  
suspects 564 tests (not including detach tests) 4 failures, 5 errors  
datastore id 5 failures 5 errors. Real progress.

2. Query tests (Michael) Moved and changed query "Having" tests; now  
pass. Still some JPOX query issues but most have been resolved.  
Hooray. AI: Michael: need to add a public static final field in a  
public class to test fully qualified class name static field in query.

3. Fieldtypes test status (Michelle) The only issue remaining is  
BigDecimal[ ] where it seems there are two different issues: one with  
storing the values in a separate table and the other with storing the  
arrays as a serialized BLOB. AI: Craig and Andy

4. Suggestion to split alltests.conf into separate configuration  
files (Craig and others) Andy earlier proposed splitting out  
alltests.conf into several configurations in order to better tell  
where the problems are. AI: Michael propose a split into a dozen  
configurations by subdirectory of tck20/test/java/org/apache/jdo/tck/ 
*. As soon as schema8 is stable, it will be integrated into the  
default schema. AI: Matthew add version columns to schema and remove  
schema8.

5. Other issues (any and all)

The JIRA issues associated with detachment need to be cleaned up;  
they mixed the life cycle and behavior of detached and persistent- 
nontransactional-dirty objects. AI: Matthew and Craig to fix up.

Action Items from weeks past:

[Dec 23 2005] Graduation issues, changes to the repository (Craig) AI  
Craig: follow up with DB PMC to see if all committers should become  
members of db group.

[Dec 23 2005] Query tests (Michael B) Looking at JDO-194 errors on  
Windows that don't happen on Linux. Might be a JRE bug. AI Martin  
file a Java bug so we know that there is a Java issue.

[Dec 23 2005] Schema for versioning AI Craig: poll jdo expert group  
for what we should require for versioning implementations and then  
adapt the tck to use a required version strategy. Done. We will use  
version number strategy for TCK tests.

[Dec 23 2005] Fetch depth discussion: The spec needs more information  
than is there in the PFD. AI Craig get more jdo experts involved in  
the discussion.

[Dec 23 2005] Consistency requirements for mapped-by: AI Craig call  
for a vote in the expert group. Done. The vote passed. The spec will  
be updated to require consistency on both sides of relationships  
mapped via "mapped-by" metadata.

[Dec 16 2005] JDO-220 jdoPostLoad callback not invoked during  
queries. AI: Michelle and Craig will take a look. Done. Working now.

[Dec 9 2005] What optional feature is making inheritance mapping 3  
fail? AI:  Craig discuss with expert group.

[Dec 9 2005]: Nontransactional write semantics appear to differ  
between optimistic and datastore transactions. Is this intentional?  
AI: Craig discuss with expert group.

[Dec 2 2005] Inheritance 3 fails. Optimization of inheritance 1 where  
there is no  table for abstract classes. JPOX doesn't support it. AI  
Craig:  discuss this mapping with expert group. It might be an  
optional feature.

[Nov 18 2005] AI: BEA to sign the donation paperwork for their test   
suite. Review how to merge their test cases into JDO TCK.

[Nov 4 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK   
1.5 issues. in progress

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Michelle distill the mapping support that JPOX has   
into a list of features that are/are not supported.

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Push jars to Apache repository (Craig) In  
progress.  Several things need to be updated, including  
project.properties,  project.xml and maven.xml.

[Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web site. Articles  
on  TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo.  
AI:  Craig write a ServerSide article.

[Aug 12 2005] AI: Craig to propose release of API20 and the entire  
11  release (API, RI, TCK). This generated a large response on the   
incubator alias.

[Aug 5 2005] AI: Brian McCallister can send info on the instructions   
how to sync Apache and ibiblio.  Re: Brian Topping needs info on   
creating a maven package.

[July 29 2005] AI: Michelle Chapter 18 wiki needs to be updated to   
include all JDO metadata elements and attributes. [not done]

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will update the wiki to tell how  
to  access our releases area.

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will do the maven goal for  
creating  and uploading the snapshots. He will create a directory  
parallel to  trunk called "releases" and put the snapshots there.

[May 13 2005] AI: Brian Topping will arrange for automated nightly   
builds.

[May 20 2005] AI: Craig to define the JCP distributions and see if   
maven can help.



Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


Re: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Jan 5, 9 am PST

Posted by Michelle Caisse <Mi...@Sun.COM>.
Hi,

We will have our regular meeting Friday, January 5 at 9 am PST to 
discuss JDO TCK issues and status.

Dial-in numbers are:
866 230-6968   294-0479#
International: +1 865 544-7856

Agenda:

1. Test status (Michael)
2. Query tests (Michael)
3. Fieldtypes test status (Michelle) 
4. Suggestion to split alltests.conf into separate configuration files 
(Craig and others)
5. Other issues (any and all)

Action Items from weeks past:

[Dec 23 2005] Graduation issues, changes to the repository (Craig) AI 
Craig: follow up with DB PMC to see if all committers should become 
members of db group.

[Dec 23 2005] Query tests (Michael B) Looking at JDO-194 errors on 
Windows that don't happen on Linux. Might be a JRE bug. AI Martin file a 
Java bug so we know that there is a Java issue. JDO-243 seems to be 
resolved (Erik's -1 on issue JDO-149 seems to be an unclear spec 
change). Still some query tests failing due to JPOX issue.

[Dec 23 2005] Schema for versioning AI Craig: poll jdo expert group for 
what we should require for versioning implementations and then adapt the 
tck to use a required version strategy.

[Dec 23 2005] Fetch depth discussion: The spec needs more information 
than is there in the PFD. AI Craig get more jdo experts involved in the 
discussion

[Dec 23 2005] Consistency requirements for mapped-by: AI Craig call for 
a vote in the expert group

[Dec 16 2005] JDO-220 jdoPostLoad callback not invoked during queries. 
AI: Michelle and Craig will take a look. 

[Dec 9 2005] What optional feature is making inheritance mapping 3 fail? 
AI:  Craig discuss with expert group.

[Dec 9 2005]: Nontransactional write semantics appear to differ between 
optimistic and datastore transactions. Is this intentional? AI: Craig 
discuss with expert group.

[Dec 2 2005] Inheritance 3 fails. Optimization of inheritance 1 where 
there is no  table for abstract classes. JPOX doesn't support it. AI 
Craig:  discuss this mapping with expert group. It might be an optional 
feature.

[Nov 18 2005] AI: BEA to sign the donation paperwork for their test  
suite. Review how to merge their test cases into JDO TCK.

[Nov 4 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK  1.5 
issues. in progress

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Michelle distill the mapping support that JPOX has  
into a list of features that are/are not supported.

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Craig discuss mapping options with expert group.

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Push jars to Apache repository (Craig) In progress.  
Several things need to be updated, including project.properties,  
project.xml and maven.xml.

[Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web site. Articles on  
TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo. AI:  
Craig write a ServerSide article.

[Aug 12 2005] AI: Craig to propose release of API20 and the entire 11  
release (API, RI, TCK). This generated a large response on the  
incubator alias.

[Aug 5 2005] AI: Brian McCallister can send info on the instructions  
how to sync Apache and ibiblio.  Re: Brian Topping needs info on  
creating a maven package.

[July 29 2005] AI: Michelle Chapter 18 wiki needs to be updated to  
include all JDO metadata elements and attributes. [not done]

[July 29 2005] AI: (Craig, Brian T.) Need some permissions that Brian  
is working on.

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will update the wiki to tell how to  
access our releases area.

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will do the maven goal for creating  
and uploading the snapshots. He will create a directory parallel to  
trunk called "releases" and put the snapshots there.

[May 13 2005] AI: Brian Topping will arrange for automated nightly  builds.

[May 20 2005] AI: Craig to define the JCP distributions and see if  
maven can help.



Re: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Dec 23, 9 am PST

Posted by Craig L Russell <Cr...@Sun.COM>.
Attendees: Miichelle Caisse, Martin Zaun, Michael Bouschen, Craig  
Russell

Agenda:

1. Test status (Michelle) datastore identity 562 tests; 10 failures,  
17 errors; application identity 9 failures 17 errors; 4 of 28  
configurations fail

2. Graduation issues, changes to the repository (Craig) AI Craig:  
follow up with DB PMC to see if all committers should become members  
of db group.

3. Query tests (Michael B) Looking at JDO-194 errors on Windows that  
don't happen on Linux. Might be a JRE bug. AI Martin file a Java bug  
so we know that there is a Java issue. JDO-243 seems to be resolved  
(Erik's -1 on issue JDO-149 seems to be an unclear spec change).  
Still some query tests failing due to JPOX issue.

4. Fieldtypes test status (Michelle) TestArrayCollections still needs  
to be debugged now that JPOX supports the new element-type attribute  
on the array element.

5. Running TCK on iut status (Michelle) in progress. JDO-264 is  
tracking the progress

6. Other issues (any and all)

Schema for versioning AI Craig: poll jdo expert group for what we  
should require for versioning implementations and then adapt the tck  
to use a required version strategy.

Fetch depth discussion: The spec needs more information than is there  
in the PFD. AI Craig get more jdo experts involved in the discussion

Consistency requirements for mapped-by: AI Craig call for a vote in  
the expert group

No meeting next week. We are done for this year. Happy New Year.

Action Items from weeks past:

[Dec 16 2005] JDO-243 select a field that is not part of the  
grouping; order by a field that is not selected
What about select sum(a) group by b, order by avg(c)
AI: Craig add clarification/update to the spec, in particular require  
that ordering terms when grouping must be either grouping terms or  
aggregates. Consider adding an implementation note that the SQL query  
might have more terms selected than the JDOQL query specifies, and  
the extra terms are not given to the user. Done.

[Dec 16 2005] JDO-220 jdoPostLoad callback not invoked during  
queries. AI: Michelle and Craig will take a look.

[Dec 9 2005] What optional feature is making inheritance mapping 3  
fail? AI:  Craig discuss with expert group.

[Dec 9 2005]: <>Michael sent a message to the expert group regarding  
lost updates to relationship fields in case the non-owning side made  
the update. AI: Craig reply and propose a spec change to require not  
losing updates. This is incompatible with the current draft of EJB 3.  
Done.

[Dec 9 2005]: Nontransactional write semantics appear to differ  
between optimistic and datastore transactions. Is this intentional?  
AI: Craig discuss with expert group.

[Dec 2 2005] Inheritance 3 fails. Optimization of inheritance 1 where  
there is no  table for abstract classes. JPOX doesn't support it. AI  
Craig:  discuss this mapping with expert group. It might be an  
optional feature.

[Nov 18 2005] AI: BEA to sign the donation paperwork for their test   
suite. Review how to merge their test cases into JDO TCK.

[Nov 4 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK   
1.5 issues. in progress

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Michelle distill the mapping support that JPOX has   
into a list of features that are/are not supported.

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Craig discuss mapping options with expert group.

[Oct 14 2005] AI: Push jars to Apache repository (Craig) In  
progress.  Several things need to be updated, including  
project.properties,  project.xml and maven.xml.

[Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web site. Articles  
on  TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo.  
AI:  Craig write a ServerSide article.

[Aug 12 2005] AI: Craig to propose release of API20 and the entire  
11  release (API, RI, TCK). This generated a large response on the   
incubator alias.

[Aug 5 2005] AI: Brian McCallister can send info on the instructions   
how to sync Apache and ibiblio.  Re: Brian Topping needs info on   
creating a maven package.

[July 29 2005] AI: Michelle Chapter 18 wiki needs to be updated to   
include all JDO metadata elements and attributes. [not done]

[July 29 2005] AI: (Craig, Brian T.) Need some permissions that  
Brian  is working on.

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will update the wiki to tell how  
to  access our releases area.

[April 15 2005] AI: Brian Topping will do the maven goal for  
creating  and uploading the snapshots. He will create a directory  
parallel to  trunk called "releases" and put the snapshots there.

[May 13 2005] AI: Brian Topping will arrange for automated nightly   
builds.

[May 20 2005] AI: Craig to define the JCP distributions and see if   
maven can help.


Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!