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[Shale] Using standalone tiles?

I am using JSF, Shale and tiles (tiles-nightly) and this has been working great... But now suddenly, I get the
following error when I try to start Tomcat..:

Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet init
INFO: Initializing TilesServlet
Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet readFactoryConfig
INFO: CONFIG FILES DEFINED IN WEB.XML
Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet initDefinitionsFactory
INFO: initializing definitions factory...
Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
WARNING: Caught exception when initializing definitions factory
Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
WARNING: I/O Error reading definitions.
Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
WARNING: org.apache.tiles.DefinitionsFactoryException: I/O Error reading definitions.
Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
WARNING: Caught exception when initializing definitions factory
Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
WARNING: I/O Error reading definitions.
Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
WARNING: javax.servlet.ServletException: I/O Error reading definitions.

This was working yesterday and I haven't changed anything... (well, the only thing I have done, is to rebuild
my application, but I can't see why that should result in this...)

Any suggestions why this is happening?

(I did one more thing, I upgraded to Shale rc1 and also tiles-nightly to 27. so I was thinking this was the
reason, but after downgrading to my previous lib versions, I still get the samme error...)


Regards,

BTJ

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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Bahadir Yagan <ba...@mht.com.tr>.
On my first post to this thread I mentioned that I am having a *similar* 
exception, which I have related to the down time of ASF website. The 
similarity is, if I understand it correctly, my long list of exceptions 
are coming from both tiles and sql-maps dtd's. So if this issue turns 
out to be a bug, sqlmaps may have the same problem.

Bahadir


Greg Reddin wrote:

>
> On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
>
>> On 11/28/05, Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      protected String registrations[] = {
>>>          "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration  1.1//
>>> EN",
>>>          "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_1.dtd",
>>>          "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration  1.2//
>>> EN",
>>>          "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_2.dtd",
>>>      };
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hmm ... Shale uses exactly this style for its own config resources,
>> including the leading slash on the URLs, and it seems to work fine  
>> when I
>> disconnect from the Internet.  I suspect there might be version  
>> specific
>> issues with URL resolution between JVMs in this area.
>
>
> I think the issue is this:  Standalone Tiles uses the ClassLoader  
> directly, while Struts-Tiles goes through the Class (which delegates  
> to the ClassLoader according to the Javadoc).  Compare Standalone Tiles:
>
>     URL url = this.getClass().getClassLoader().getResource(
>
> to Struts-Tiles:
>
>      URL url = this.getClass().getResource(
>
> The effect is that if you use the ClassLoader you cannot have a  
> leading "/" on the name.  Now I'm not sure which is more correct...
>
> Greg
>
>
>
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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:

> On 11/28/05, Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>      protected String registrations[] = {
>>          "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration  
>> 1.1//
>> EN",
>>          "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_1.dtd",
>>          "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration  
>> 1.2//
>> EN",
>>          "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_2.dtd",
>>      };
>>
>
>
> Hmm ... Shale uses exactly this style for its own config resources,
> including the leading slash on the URLs, and it seems to work fine  
> when I
> disconnect from the Internet.  I suspect there might be version  
> specific
> issues with URL resolution between JVMs in this area.

I think the issue is this:  Standalone Tiles uses the ClassLoader  
directly, while Struts-Tiles goes through the Class (which delegates  
to the ClassLoader according to the Javadoc).  Compare Standalone Tiles:

     URL url = this.getClass().getClassLoader().getResource(

to Struts-Tiles:

      URL url = this.getClass().getResource(

The effect is that if you use the ClassLoader you cannot have a  
leading "/" on the name.  Now I'm not sure which is more correct...

Greg



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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 11/28/05, Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>      protected String registrations[] = {
>          "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.1//
> EN",
>          "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_1.dtd",
>          "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.2//
> EN",
>          "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_2.dtd",
>      };


Hmm ... Shale uses exactly this style for its own config resources,
including the leading slash on the URLs, and it seems to work fine when I
disconnect from the Internet.  I suspect there might be version specific
issues with URL resolution between JVMs in this area.

If taking away the leading slash leaves it still working in both jar'd and
unjar'd formats, I'd say "go for it".

Craig

Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Nov 28, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Greg Reddin wrote:

>     public DigesterDefinitionsReader() {
>         digester = new Digester();
>         digester.setValidating(validating);
>         digester.setNamespaceAware(true);
>         digester.setUseContextClassLoader(true);
>
>         // Register our local copy of the DTDs that we can find
>         for (int i = 0; i < registrations.length; i += 2) {
>             URL url = this.getClass().getClassLoader().getResource(
>                     registrations[i+1]);
>             if (url != null) {
>                 digester.register(registrations[i], url.toString());
>             }
>         }
>     }
>
> The problem is that the ClassLoader cannot resolve the URL if it  
> begins with "/".

BTW, the Struts version of Tiles does something similar.  I remember  
seeing something a while back about Apache complaining about too many  
requests to the website for the Tiles DTD.  The struts-tiles digester  
parser class has the following:

         digester = new Digester();
         digester.setValidating(validating);
         digester.setNamespaceAware(true);
         digester.setUseContextClassLoader(true);
         // Register our local copy of the DTDs that we can find
   for (int i = 0; i < registrations.length; i += 2) {
       URL url = this.getClass().getResource(registrations[i+1]);
       if (url != null)
           {
           digester.register(registrations[i], url.toString());
           }

No error is logged if url is null.  It just doesn't register it and  
gets the DTD from the web instead.  Could it be that we are always  
getting it from the web b/c Tiles never resolves the URL in a web  
application?

Greg

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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Nov 28, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote:


> Hmmm... maybe we should wait for Greg to sort this all out. :)
>
> It should _not_ be going out to retrieve the dtd, that much I know.
>

Ok, here's what's happening.  The DigesterDefinitionsReader class is  
the class that reads Tiles defs using Digester in Standalone Tiles.   
In part, it contains the following code:

     protected String registrations[] = {
         "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.1// 
EN",
         "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_1.dtd",
         "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.2// 
EN",
         "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_2.dtd",
     };

...

     public DigesterDefinitionsReader() {
         digester = new Digester();
         digester.setValidating(validating);
         digester.setNamespaceAware(true);
         digester.setUseContextClassLoader(true);

         // Register our local copy of the DTDs that we can find
         for (int i = 0; i < registrations.length; i += 2) {
             URL url = this.getClass().getClassLoader().getResource(
                     registrations[i+1]);
             if (url != null) {
                 digester.register(registrations[i], url.toString());
             }
         }
     }

The registrations array definition creates a set of Strings to pass  
to digester.  The constructor then gets the Resource for each  
registration string and calls the Digester register() method to point  
to the DTD in the JAR instead of on the web.

The problem is that the ClassLoader cannot resolve the URL if it  
begins with "/".  So if I change this:

     protected String registrations[] = {
         "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.1// 
EN",
         "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_1.dtd",
         "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.2// 
EN",
         "/org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_2.dtd",
     };

to this:

     protected String registrations[] = {
         "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.1// 
EN",
         "org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_1.dtd",
         "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.2// 
EN",
         "org/apache/tiles/resources/tiles-config_1_2.dtd",
     };

it works.  I can completely disconnect from any network and still  
resolve the DTDs. Interestingly, the problem seems to only occur when  
running with a JAR.  If I run the original code against an exploded  
directory instead of a JAR it works fine.   But if I JAR the code up  
I have to remove the leading "/" or the URL won't resolve.  Any idea  
why that is?

Greg



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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/28/05, gramani@intellicare.com <gr...@intellicare.com> wrote:

> Wendy, I remember you saying this was so a while back (and a few times
> since!) and so i rechecked my tiles-cores.jar and found (in tiles-core.tld
> within META-INF) the following:
> <uri>http://jakarta.apache.org/tiles</uri>
> I had thought this was what my <!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions should point
> to..?
> (-so i did think it funny that my "solution" of removing that top bit
> worked!)
>
> After your current message I checked within my resources as you have
> suggested and did find what you have below.. But I'm wondering why the
> META-INF has a different notation..?

Hmmm... maybe we should wait for Greg to sort this all out. :)

It should _not_ be going out to retrieve the dtd, that much I know.

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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by gr...@intellicare.com.
Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org> wrote on 11/28/2005 11:15:29 AM:

> 
> On Nov 28, 2005, at 10:08 AM, gramani@intellicare.com wrote:
> 
> >> Those public identifiers (the part that starts with "--/Apache...")
> >> are registered to copies of the DTD inside the tiles-core.jar file,
> >> you can see them in there under /org/apache/tiles/resources.
> >>
> >
> > Wendy, I remember you saying this was so a while back (and a few times
> > since!) and so i rechecked my tiles-cores.jar and found (in tiles- 
> > core.tld
> > within META-INF) the following:
> > <uri>http://jakarta.apache.org/tiles</uri>
> 
> We changed the location of the DTDs a while back.  I wonder if the 
> change did not happen in the standalone TIles repo.  I'll check on it.

I never fail to be amazed with this list's responsiveness! Thanks :)

> Greg
>

Geeta

Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@apache.org>.
On Nov 28, 2005, at 10:08 AM, gramani@intellicare.com wrote:

>> Those public identifiers (the part that starts with "--/Apache...")
>> are registered to copies of the DTD inside the tiles-core.jar file,
>> you can see them in there under /org/apache/tiles/resources.
>>
>
> Wendy, I remember you saying this was so a while back (and a few times
> since!) and so i rechecked my tiles-cores.jar and found (in tiles- 
> core.tld
> within META-INF) the following:
> <uri>http://jakarta.apache.org/tiles</uri>

We changed the location of the DTDs a while back.  I wonder if the  
change did not happen in the standalone TIles repo.  I'll check on it.

Greg


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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by gr...@intellicare.com.
Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote on 11/28/2005 10:55:29 AM:

> 
> Those public identifiers (the part that starts with "--/Apache...")
> are registered to copies of the DTD inside the tiles-core.jar file,
> you can see them in there under /org/apache/tiles/resources.

Wendy, I remember you saying this was so a while back (and a few times 
since!) and so i rechecked my tiles-cores.jar and found (in tiles-core.tld 
within META-INF) the following:
<uri>http://jakarta.apache.org/tiles</uri>
I had thought this was what my <!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions should point 
to..? 
(-so i did think it funny that my "solution" of removing that top bit 
worked!)

After your current message I checked within my resources as you have 
suggested and did find what you have below.. But I'm wondering why the 
META-INF has a different notation..?

> 
> --
> Wendy

Many thanks for your time,
Geeta

Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no>.
Now it works, because the site is up again....

BTJ

gramani@intellicare.com wrote:
> Actually I changed my <!DOCTYPE defintion to what is in my 
> /org/apache/tiles/resources as Wendy states below and now it does work.. 
> Maybe you can recheck and make sure your dtd says exactly what you think 
> it does..?
> Geeta
> 
> Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no> wrote on 11/28/2005 11:03:23 AM:
> 
>> Well, that's the one I am using and it is not working when the 
>> apache site is down!
>>
>> BTJ
>>


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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by gr...@intellicare.com.
Actually I changed my <!DOCTYPE defintion to what is in my 
/org/apache/tiles/resources as Wendy states below and now it does work.. 
Maybe you can recheck and make sure your dtd says exactly what you think 
it does..?
Geeta

Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no> wrote on 11/28/2005 11:03:23 AM:

> Well, that's the one I am using and it is not working when the 
> apache site is down!
> 
> BTJ
> 

Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no>.
Well, that's the one I am using and it is not working when the apache site is down!

BTJ

Wendy Smoak wrote:
> On 11/28/05, Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I think you are right... But I think it's kind of stupid that my webapplication is dependent on an
>> external site to be up and running for my webapplication to work!
> 
> It shouldn't be... provided you give it the right public identifier. 
> For Stand-alone Tiles, use either:
> 
>      <!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
>        "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.1//EN"
>        "http://struts.apache.org/dtds/tiles-config_1_1.dtd">
> or
>      <!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
>        "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.2//EN"
>        "http://struts.apache.org/dtds/tiles-config_1_2.dtd">
> 
> Those public identifiers (the part that starts with "--/Apache...")
> are registered to copies of the DTD inside the tiles-core.jar file,
> you can see them in there under /org/apache/tiles/resources.
> 
> --
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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On 11/28/05, Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no> wrote:

> Yes, I think you are right... But I think it's kind of stupid that my webapplication is dependent on an
> external site to be up and running for my webapplication to work!

It shouldn't be... provided you give it the right public identifier. 
For Stand-alone Tiles, use either:

     <!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
       "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.1//EN"
       "http://struts.apache.org/dtds/tiles-config_1_1.dtd">
or
     <!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
       "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration 1.2//EN"
       "http://struts.apache.org/dtds/tiles-config_1_2.dtd">

Those public identifiers (the part that starts with "--/Apache...")
are registered to copies of the DTD inside the tiles-core.jar file,
you can see them in there under /org/apache/tiles/resources.

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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by gr...@intellicare.com.
Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no> wrote on 11/28/2005 10:04:38 AM:

> Yes, I think you are right... But I think it's kind of stupid that 
> my webapplication is dependent on an
> external site to be up and running for my webapplication to work!
> 
> Or is there a workaround that I don't know about?

hi there, I got this same exception. What I did was remove the:
<!DOCTYPE tiles-definitions PUBLIC
    "-//Apache Software Foundation//DTD Tiles Configuration//EN"
    "http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/dtds/tiles-config.dtd">
 
from the top of tiles.xml and that got rid of the error..
> 
> 
> BTJ

Geeta

Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Bjørn T Johansen <bt...@havleik.no>.
Yes, I think you are right... But I think it's kind of stupid that my webapplication is dependent on an
external site to be up and running for my webapplication to work!

Or is there a workaround that I don't know about?


BTJ

Bahadır Yağan wrote:
> I am getting a similar error with totally different configuration(struts
> 1.2, no shale of jsf). Apache web site seems down (or I can not reach
> it) so tomcat could not fetch the dtd files. I think the problem is
> related to that.
> 
> 
> Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
>> I am using JSF, Shale and tiles (tiles-nightly) and this has been
>> working great... But now suddenly, I get the
>> following error when I try to start Tomcat..:
>>
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet init
>> INFO: Initializing TilesServlet
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> readFactoryConfig
>> INFO: CONFIG FILES DEFINED IN WEB.XML
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> initDefinitionsFactory
>> INFO: initializing definitions factory...
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> saveExceptionMessage
>> WARNING: Caught exception when initializing definitions factory
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> saveExceptionMessage
>> WARNING: I/O Error reading definitions.
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> saveExceptionMessage
>> WARNING: org.apache.tiles.DefinitionsFactoryException: I/O Error
>> reading definitions.
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> saveExceptionMessage
>> WARNING: Caught exception when initializing definitions factory
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> saveExceptionMessage
>> WARNING: I/O Error reading definitions.
>> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet
>> saveExceptionMessage
>> WARNING: javax.servlet.ServletException: I/O Error reading definitions.
>>
>> This was working yesterday and I haven't changed anything... (well,
>> the only thing I have done, is to rebuild
>> my application, but I can't see why that should result in this...)
>>
>> Any suggestions why this is happening?
>>
>> (I did one more thing, I upgraded to Shale rc1 and also tiles-nightly
>> to 27. so I was thinking this was the
>> reason, but after downgrading to my previous lib versions, I still get
>> the samme error...)
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> BTJ
>>
>>   
> 


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Re: [Shale] Using standalone tiles?

Posted by Bahadır Yağan <ba...@mht.com.tr>.
I am getting a similar error with totally different configuration(struts 
1.2, no shale of jsf). Apache web site seems down (or I can not reach 
it) so tomcat could not fetch the dtd files. I think the problem is 
related to that.


Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
> I am using JSF, Shale and tiles (tiles-nightly) and this has been working great... But now suddenly, I get the
> following error when I try to start Tomcat..:
>
> Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet init
> INFO: Initializing TilesServlet
> Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet readFactoryConfig
> INFO: CONFIG FILES DEFINED IN WEB.XML
> Nov 28, 2005 3:07:31 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet initDefinitionsFactory
> INFO: initializing definitions factory...
> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
> WARNING: Caught exception when initializing definitions factory
> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
> WARNING: I/O Error reading definitions.
> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
> WARNING: org.apache.tiles.DefinitionsFactoryException: I/O Error reading definitions.
> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
> WARNING: Caught exception when initializing definitions factory
> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
> WARNING: I/O Error reading definitions.
> Nov 28, 2005 3:10:40 PM org.apache.tiles.servlets.TilesServlet saveExceptionMessage
> WARNING: javax.servlet.ServletException: I/O Error reading definitions.
>
> This was working yesterday and I haven't changed anything... (well, the only thing I have done, is to rebuild
> my application, but I can't see why that should result in this...)
>
> Any suggestions why this is happening?
>
> (I did one more thing, I upgraded to Shale rc1 and also tiles-nightly to 27. so I was thinking this was the
> reason, but after downgrading to my previous lib versions, I still get the samme error...)
>
>
> Regards,
>
> BTJ
>
>   


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