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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by Ged Haywood <ge...@www2.jubileegroup.co.uk> on 2002/02/07 01:04:19 UTC
Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache +
mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix
Hi there,
On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote:
> professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which despite
> being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a mission
> statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry).
Patches, chapters, help are always welcome I'm sure.
> My .05 is that all development be stopped until the instal process
> is up to the same standard as M$. This is what made M$ rich, the
> sheer installability and usability. I was visiting somebody
> yesterday and he had Win2K installing while we talked for an hour.
Yeah, I had a car like that once, but I got rid of it.
When I installed the operating system on a Mac last year it took
about three minutes - including all the tools, browsers and wotnot
that you could wish for - with no intervention from me at all.
After the pain I've been through with some W1nd0ze installations
it was very refreshing. So I guess what I'm saying is that there's
a lot more to it than that, or Apple would be ruling the world.
73,
Ged.
Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix
Posted by Will Waggoner <ww...@scilearn.com>.
I agree that Apache Toolbox does a nice job for apache/mod_perl
installation -- even goes out and gets the source for you. I would like to
mention that I got a great deal of benefit from the INSTALL document from
the mod_ssl distribution -- it contains many examples of configuring and
compiling common Apache configurations such as
Apache+SSL+mod_perl+PHP...etc... It went a long way towards alleviating my
confusion when I first started working with Apache.
Will
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Lindner" <li...@inuus.com>
To: "Ged Haywood" <ge...@www2.jubileegroup.co.uk>
Cc: "Rod Butcher" <rb...@hyenainternet.com>; "mod_perl Mailing List"
<mo...@apache.org>; <as...@perl.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache +
mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix
> Two things,
>
> First check out http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ About as out-of-the-box
> as you can get. Last time I tried it seemed to 'do the right thing'
> for me.
>
> For mod_perl specifics you might also check out chapter 1 of the
> "mod_perl Developer's Cookbook". I think it's a pretty good stab at
> showing a novice how to compile and install apache+mod_perl (though
> not mod_ssl... alas) The complete chapter is online at
> http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
>
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:04:19AM +0000, Ged Haywood wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote:
> >
> >
> > > professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which
despite
> > > being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a
mission
> > > statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry).
> >
> > Patches, chapters, help are always welcome I'm sure.
> >
> > > My .05 is that all development be stopped until the instal process
> > > is up to the same standard as M$. This is what made M$ rich, the
> > > sheer installability and usability. I was visiting somebody
> > > yesterday and he had Win2K installing while we talked for an hour.
> >
> > Yeah, I had a car like that once, but I got rid of it.
> >
> > When I installed the operating system on a Mac last year it took
> > about three minutes - including all the tools, browsers and wotnot
> > that you could wish for - with no intervention from me at all.
> > After the pain I've been through with some W1nd0ze installations
> > it was very refreshing. So I guess what I'm saying is that there's
> > a lot more to it than that, or Apple would be ruling the world.
> >
> > 73,
> > Ged.
>
> --
> Paul Lindner lindner@inuus.com ||||| | | | | | | | | |
>
> mod_perl Developer's Cookbook http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
> Human Rights Declaration http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/index.htm
>
Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix
Posted by Paul Lindner <li...@inuus.com>.
Two things,
First check out http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ About as out-of-the-box
as you can get. Last time I tried it seemed to 'do the right thing'
for me.
For mod_perl specifics you might also check out chapter 1 of the
"mod_perl Developer's Cookbook". I think it's a pretty good stab at
showing a novice how to compile and install apache+mod_perl (though
not mod_ssl... alas) The complete chapter is online at
http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
Regards,
Paul
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:04:19AM +0000, Ged Haywood wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote:
>
>
> > professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which despite
> > being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a mission
> > statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry).
>
> Patches, chapters, help are always welcome I'm sure.
>
> > My .05 is that all development be stopped until the instal process
> > is up to the same standard as M$. This is what made M$ rich, the
> > sheer installability and usability. I was visiting somebody
> > yesterday and he had Win2K installing while we talked for an hour.
>
> Yeah, I had a car like that once, but I got rid of it.
>
> When I installed the operating system on a Mac last year it took
> about three minutes - including all the tools, browsers and wotnot
> that you could wish for - with no intervention from me at all.
> After the pain I've been through with some W1nd0ze installations
> it was very refreshing. So I guess what I'm saying is that there's
> a lot more to it than that, or Apple would be ruling the world.
>
> 73,
> Ged.
--
Paul Lindner lindner@inuus.com ||||| | | | | | | | | |
mod_perl Developer's Cookbook http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
Human Rights Declaration http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/index.htm
Re: [Straying from the Topic] Installing from scratch Apache + mod_perl + Apache::ASP (+maybe others) on unix
Posted by Paul Lindner <li...@inuus.com>.
Two things,
First check out http://www.apachetoolbox.com/ About as out-of-the-box
as you can get. Last time I tried it seemed to 'do the right thing'
for me.
For mod_perl specifics you might also check out chapter 1 of the
"mod_perl Developer's Cookbook". I think it's a pretty good stab at
showing a novice how to compile and install apache+mod_perl (though
not mod_ssl... alas) The complete chapter is online at
http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
Regards,
Paul
On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 12:04:19AM +0000, Ged Haywood wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Rod Butcher wrote:
>
>
> > professionals are being driven mad, despite reading the Guide (which despite
> > being complete is still mysterious, it comes across as having a mission
> > statement to contain everything rather than to be useful, sorry).
>
> Patches, chapters, help are always welcome I'm sure.
>
> > My .05 is that all development be stopped until the instal process
> > is up to the same standard as M$. This is what made M$ rich, the
> > sheer installability and usability. I was visiting somebody
> > yesterday and he had Win2K installing while we talked for an hour.
>
> Yeah, I had a car like that once, but I got rid of it.
>
> When I installed the operating system on a Mac last year it took
> about three minutes - including all the tools, browsers and wotnot
> that you could wish for - with no intervention from me at all.
> After the pain I've been through with some W1nd0ze installations
> it was very refreshing. So I guess what I'm saying is that there's
> a lot more to it than that, or Apple would be ruling the world.
>
> 73,
> Ged.
--
Paul Lindner lindner@inuus.com ||||| | | | | | | | | |
mod_perl Developer's Cookbook http://www.modperlcookbook.org/
Human Rights Declaration http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/index.htm
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