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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca> on 2012/07/06 21:14:18 UTC
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Just moving this over to the dev list.
We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
Please use this thread for discussion.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
To aggregate cloudstack related blogs, from the community.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Huang [mailto:Alex.Huang@citrix.com]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:47 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Planet Cloudstack
Sorry. What is the context for this? Is it to aggregate all blogs
regarding cloudstack or cloud?
--Alex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:44 PM
> To: <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
>
> So I think the first question is what domain name to give it - the two
> thoughts I saw were planet.cloudstack.org, or planetcloudstack.org (I
> just registered the later, just in case).
>
> There were some concerns about ASF overhead if we use the cs.o domain,
> somebody also mentioned the word "trademark" so it might be easier to
> do on a separate domain. Anyways...bounce thoughts around, it takes me
> about
> 5 clicks to set the site up once we decide on that.
>
> Next - what aggregator to use. I'm fluent in Drupal, know wordpress
> fairly well but wouldn't call myself fluent. Setting up an aggregator
> is pretty simple in the former, no idea about the later. Happy to
> share administration/care&keeping responsibilities if anybody's
> interested in getting their feet wet.
>
> John
>
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
>
> > Just moving this over to the dev list.
> >
> >
> >
> > We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please use this thread for discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelcey Jamison-Damage
> >
> > Infrastructure Systems Architect
> >
> >
> >
> > Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
> >
> > 55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
> >
> > kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
> >
> >
> >
>
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Alex Huang <Al...@citrix.com>.
Sorry. What is the context for this? Is it to aggregate all blogs regarding cloudstack or cloud?
--Alex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:44 PM
> To: <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
>
> So I think the first question is what domain name to give it - the two thoughts
> I saw were planet.cloudstack.org, or planetcloudstack.org (I just registered
> the later, just in case).
>
> There were some concerns about ASF overhead if we use the cs.o domain,
> somebody also mentioned the word "trademark" so it might be easier to do
> on a separate domain. Anyways...bounce thoughts around, it takes me about
> 5 clicks to set the site up once we decide on that.
>
> Next - what aggregator to use. I'm fluent in Drupal, know wordpress fairly
> well but wouldn't call myself fluent. Setting up an aggregator is pretty simple
> in the former, no idea about the later. Happy to share
> administration/care&keeping responsibilities if anybody's interested in
> getting their feet wet.
>
> John
>
> On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
>
> > Just moving this over to the dev list.
> >
> >
> >
> > We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please use this thread for discussion.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kelcey Jamison-Damage
> >
> > Infrastructure Systems Architect
> >
> >
> >
> > Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
> >
> > 55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
> >
> > kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
> >
> >
> >
>
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
I would be nice if the site was a hybrid, such that it posted aggregation
but could also be directly contributed to.
Just a thought.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:44 PM
To: <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
So I think the first question is what domain name to give it - the two
thoughts I saw were planet.cloudstack.org, or planetcloudstack.org (I just
registered the later, just in case).
There were some concerns about ASF overhead if we use the cs.o domain,
somebody also mentioned the word "trademark" so it might be easier to do on
a separate domain. Anyways.bounce thoughts around, it takes me about 5
clicks to set the site up once we decide on that.
Next - what aggregator to use. I'm fluent in Drupal, know wordpress fairly
well but wouldn't call myself fluent. Setting up an aggregator is pretty
simple in the former, no idea about the later. Happy to share
administration/care&keeping responsibilities if anybody's interested in
getting their feet wet.
John
On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
> Just moving this over to the dev list.
>
>
>
> We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>
>
>
> Please use this thread for discussion.
>
>
>
> Kelcey Jamison-Damage
>
> Infrastructure Systems Architect
>
>
>
> Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
>
> 55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
>
> kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
>
>
>
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 07:44:19PM +0000, John Kinsella wrote:
> Next - what aggregator to use.
Drupal and WordPress might be overkill here. I haven't set up a planet
in quite some time, and the original Planet Planet software seems to be
unmaintained.
There's MoonMoon (fork of Planet) though, which seems to be relatively
well-maintained. See on GitHub:
https://github.com/mauricesvay/moonmoon
Homepage: http://moonmoon.org/
Haven't used this myself, but I could do a quick test install this
weekend to see if it's reasonable to set up.
Best,
Joe
--
Joe Brockmeier
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
RE: Revived: Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
+1 I agree,
Getting this going before September would be awesome and help push the
Apache CloudStack brand to a wider audience for the 4.0 release.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone Technology | Backbone Datavault | Backbone IT Services
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:jzb@zonker.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:15 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Revived: Re: Planet Cloudstack
I know that there's a LOT going on right now, so blogging may not be top of
mind for folks - but it'd be good if we could get this sorted out.
While everyone is working on getting 4.0 out the door is *exactly* when it'd
be good if folks were blogging about what they're doing and perhaps helping
to encourage others to get involved.
The activity that's on -dev is amazing, but it's less visible than it could
be.
IIRC there was discussion on #CloudStack of asking Infra to provision a VM
to run planet.cloudstack.org. I don't recall who volunteered to pick that
up, though. I'd be happy to help, but I'm not a committer right now so I
don't think they'd hand over the keys to me.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:30:21AM -0700, Kelceydamage@bbits wrote:
> Have we found out whether we can get a custom ruleset for an apache planet
site?
>
> If not I suggest we go ahead and host with jlkinsel.
>
> It's more important to get this working then worry too much about the
method. We can always redirect the content later.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> >
--
Joe Brockmeier
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
Re: Revived: Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
First - apologies to everyone, I've been crazy busy this week, haven't had time to focus on this.
I chatted with folks on #asfinfra this morning. As we want to allow non-committers to submit feeds to the aggregator, they are reasonably concerned with non-committers producing content which shows up on ASF sites without moderation.
What we came up with is this:
* ASF will give us a VM to run http://planet.cloudstack.org on. By using this instead of planet.apache.org/cloudstack, we're able to include non-committers.
* Committers will control adding feeds (of committers, developers, or users) to the aggregator (I'll put together a wiki page describing what's acceptable)
* Infra will set this up for us, after I submit a Jira request, after we conduct a procedural vote.
I think that's reasonable and within the bounds of what we talked about.
I'll be sending out a VOTE email shortly. If you have any concerns, please don't hesitate to voice them.
John
On Aug 9, 2012, at 5:26 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Infra already runs planetapache, so there might be a way to reuse some of that if another is set up on a VM.
>>
>> Another option is that the project can blog on our Roller install. It's less individual / distributed, but good for official communication and can be done now: http://blogs.apache.org/
>>
>
>
> Matt Domsch and I talked with folks in #asfinfra and they indicated
> that p.a.o was built with the idea of having multiple feeds out, and
> should be easily reusable. (and would create p.a.o/cloudstack
>
> As an aside, if you are a committer and blog, please aggregate your
> blog on p.a.o/committers.
>
> --David
>
Re: Revived: Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> Infra already runs planetapache, so there might be a way to reuse some of that if another is set up on a VM.
>
> Another option is that the project can blog on our Roller install. It's less individual / distributed, but good for official communication and can be done now: http://blogs.apache.org/
>
Matt Domsch and I talked with folks in #asfinfra and they indicated
that p.a.o was built with the idea of having multiple feeds out, and
should be easily reusable. (and would create p.a.o/cloudstack
As an aside, if you are a committer and blog, please aggregate your
blog on p.a.o/committers.
--David
Re: Revived: Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
Infra already runs planetapache, so there might be a way to reuse some of that if another is set up on a VM.
Another option is that the project can blog on our Roller install. It's less individual / distributed, but good for official communication and can be done now: http://blogs.apache.org/
- Brett
On 10/08/2012, at 6:30 AM, John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co> wrote:
> That was me. I let it slip onto the back burner but will see what progress I can make this week.
>
> John
>
> On Aug 9, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
>
>> I know that there's a LOT going on right now, so blogging may not be top
>> of mind for folks - but it'd be good if we could get this sorted out.
>> While everyone is working on getting 4.0 out the door is *exactly* when
>> it'd be good if folks were blogging about what they're doing and perhaps
>> helping to encourage others to get involved.
>>
>> The activity that's on -dev is amazing, but it's less visible than it
>> could be.
>>
>> IIRC there was discussion on #CloudStack of asking Infra to provision a
>> VM to run planet.cloudstack.org. I don't recall who volunteered to pick
>> that up, though. I'd be happy to help, but I'm not a committer right now
>> so I don't think they'd hand over the keys to me.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:30:21AM -0700, Kelceydamage@bbits wrote:
>>> Have we found out whether we can get a custom ruleset for an apache planet site?
>>>
>>> If not I suggest we go ahead and host with jlkinsel.
>>>
>>> It's more important to get this working then worry too much about the method. We can always redirect the content later.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> http://dissociatedpress.net/
>> Twitter: @jzb
>>
>
> Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
> o: 415.315.9385
> @johnlkinsella
>
--
Brett Porter
brett@apache.org
http://brettporter.wordpress.com/
http://au.linkedin.com/in/brettporter
http://twitter.com/brettporter
Re: Revived: Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
That was me. I let it slip onto the back burner but will see what progress I can make this week.
John
On Aug 9, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote:
> I know that there's a LOT going on right now, so blogging may not be top
> of mind for folks - but it'd be good if we could get this sorted out.
> While everyone is working on getting 4.0 out the door is *exactly* when
> it'd be good if folks were blogging about what they're doing and perhaps
> helping to encourage others to get involved.
>
> The activity that's on -dev is amazing, but it's less visible than it
> could be.
>
> IIRC there was discussion on #CloudStack of asking Infra to provision a
> VM to run planet.cloudstack.org. I don't recall who volunteered to pick
> that up, though. I'd be happy to help, but I'm not a committer right now
> so I don't think they'd hand over the keys to me.
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:30:21AM -0700, Kelceydamage@bbits wrote:
>> Have we found out whether we can get a custom ruleset for an apache planet site?
>>
>> If not I suggest we go ahead and host with jlkinsel.
>>
>> It's more important to get this working then worry too much about the method. We can always redirect the content later.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>
> --
> Joe Brockmeier
> http://dissociatedpress.net/
> Twitter: @jzb
>
Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service
o: 415.315.9385
@johnlkinsella
Revived: Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
I know that there's a LOT going on right now, so blogging may not be top
of mind for folks - but it'd be good if we could get this sorted out.
While everyone is working on getting 4.0 out the door is *exactly* when
it'd be good if folks were blogging about what they're doing and perhaps
helping to encourage others to get involved.
The activity that's on -dev is amazing, but it's less visible than it
could be.
IIRC there was discussion on #CloudStack of asking Infra to provision a
VM to run planet.cloudstack.org. I don't recall who volunteered to pick
that up, though. I'd be happy to help, but I'm not a committer right now
so I don't think they'd hand over the keys to me.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:30:21AM -0700, Kelceydamage@bbits wrote:
> Have we found out whether we can get a custom ruleset for an apache planet site?
>
> If not I suggest we go ahead and host with jlkinsel.
>
> It's more important to get this working then worry too much about the method. We can always redirect the content later.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> >
--
Joe Brockmeier
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelceydamage@bbits" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
Have we found out whether we can get a custom ruleset for an apache planet site?
If not I suggest we go ahead and host with jlkinsel.
It's more important to get this working then worry too much about the method. We can always redirect the content later.
Thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
>
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca>wrote:
> Maybe we should keep it as an independent community project for now.
>
> We don't want alienate the people we are trying to build this for.
>
I agree with that approach for the time being at least
>
> Kelcey Jamison-Damage
> Infrastructure Systems Architect
>
> Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
> 55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
> kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:05 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca>
> wrote:
> > If you think it's a good idea I happily second the notion of a
> > different aggregator on planet.apache.
> >
> > I'm not even sure what ASF overhead even amounts to.
> >
>
> It's not much but it is something.
> Historically p.a.o has all been committers. You even need commit access to
> add your blog.
>
> There doesn't seem to be any precedent yet for a project running it's own
> aggregator, but it's a possible, and possible that we could have our own
> set
> of rules for that aggregator. All untested water.
>
> The other issue is that even setting it up will require someone be a
> committer - which limits who can do the work. (which for better or worse
> eliminates the people two folks who are trying to get it done)
>
> --David
>
>
--
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
Maybe we should keep it as an independent community project for now.
We don't want alienate the people we are trying to build this for.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:05 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca>
wrote:
> If you think it's a good idea I happily second the notion of a
> different aggregator on planet.apache.
>
> I'm not even sure what ASF overhead even amounts to.
>
It's not much but it is something.
Historically p.a.o has all been committers. You even need commit access to
add your blog.
There doesn't seem to be any precedent yet for a project running it's own
aggregator, but it's a possible, and possible that we could have our own set
of rules for that aggregator. All untested water.
The other issue is that even setting it up will require someone be a
committer - which limits who can do the work. (which for better or worse
eliminates the people two folks who are trying to get it done)
--David
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca> wrote:
> If you think it's a good idea I happily second the notion of a different
> aggregator on planet.apache.
>
> I'm not even sure what ASF overhead even amounts to.
>
It's not much but it is something.
Historically p.a.o has all been committers. You even need commit
access to add your blog.
There doesn't seem to be any precedent yet for a project running it's
own aggregator, but it's a possible, and possible that we could have
our own set of rules for that aggregator. All untested water.
The other issue is that even setting it up will require someone be a
committer - which limits who can do the work. (which for better or
worse eliminates the people two folks who are trying to get it done)
--David
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
If you think it's a good idea I happily second the notion of a different
aggregator on planet.apache.
I'm not even sure what ASF overhead even amounts to.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:53 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca>
wrote:
> I vote for planetcloudstack.org as it removes us from ASF and foes not
> cause trademark infringement.
>
One could argue that the presence of cloudstack in the domain name is enough
to trigger trademark violation.
There's been some talk elsewhere that perhaps we could setup a different
aggregator on planet.apache.org (right now there is
planet.apache.org/committers, presumably we could set
planet.apache.org/cloudstack and have a different set of rules on who could
be there. )
just a step back, I think part of the goal would be to get content up from
users as well as committers, as often the user blogs are useful in a way
that committer blogs might not be.
Thoughts?
--David
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
Most planet sites avoid TM issues by being considered FAN sites, and the
derivative.
And as for content, I meant ALL users by community, and not specifically
contributors. :)
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:53 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca>
wrote:
> I vote for planetcloudstack.org as it removes us from ASF and foes not
> cause trademark infringement.
>
One could argue that the presence of cloudstack in the domain name is enough
to trigger trademark violation.
There's been some talk elsewhere that perhaps we could setup a different
aggregator on planet.apache.org (right now there is
planet.apache.org/committers, presumably we could set
planet.apache.org/cloudstack and have a different set of rules on who could
be there. )
just a step back, I think part of the goal would be to get content up from
users as well as committers, as often the user blogs are useful in a way
that committer blogs might not be.
Thoughts?
--David
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 03:52:44PM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
> just a step back, I think part of the goal would be to get content up
> from users as well as committers, as often the user blogs are useful
> in a way that committer blogs might not be.
+1 to this.
There's a lot of folks working with CloudStack that aren't and aren't
likely to be doing a lot of development - but are working with
CloudStack in installations that would be ripe for providing helpful
tips, etc.
Best,
Joe
--
Joe Brockmeier
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca> wrote:
> I vote for planetcloudstack.org as it removes us from ASF and foes not cause
> trademark infringement.
>
One could argue that the presence of cloudstack in the domain name is
enough to trigger trademark violation.
There's been some talk elsewhere that perhaps we could setup a
different aggregator on planet.apache.org (right now there is
planet.apache.org/committers, presumably we could set
planet.apache.org/cloudstack and have a different set of rules on who
could be there. )
just a step back, I think part of the goal would be to get content up
from users as well as committers, as often the user blogs are useful
in a way that committer blogs might not be.
Thoughts?
--David
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
I vote for planetcloudstack.org as it removes us from ASF and foes not cause
trademark infringement.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: John Kinsella [mailto:jlk@stratosec.co]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:44 PM
To: <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
So I think the first question is what domain name to give it - the two
thoughts I saw were planet.cloudstack.org, or planetcloudstack.org (I just
registered the later, just in case).
There were some concerns about ASF overhead if we use the cs.o domain,
somebody also mentioned the word "trademark" so it might be easier to do on
a separate domain. Anyways.bounce thoughts around, it takes me about 5
clicks to set the site up once we decide on that.
Next - what aggregator to use. I'm fluent in Drupal, know wordpress fairly
well but wouldn't call myself fluent. Setting up an aggregator is pretty
simple in the former, no idea about the later. Happy to share
administration/care&keeping responsibilities if anybody's interested in
getting their feet wet.
John
On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
> Just moving this over to the dev list.
>
>
>
> We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>
>
>
> Please use this thread for discussion.
>
>
>
> Kelcey Jamison-Damage
>
> Infrastructure Systems Architect
>
>
>
> Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
>
> 55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
>
> kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
>
>
>
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
So I think the first question is what domain name to give it - the two thoughts I saw were planet.cloudstack.org, or planetcloudstack.org (I just registered the later, just in case).
There were some concerns about ASF overhead if we use the cs.o domain, somebody also mentioned the word "trademark" so it might be easier to do on a separate domain. Anyways…bounce thoughts around, it takes me about 5 clicks to set the site up once we decide on that.
Next - what aggregator to use. I'm fluent in Drupal, know wordpress fairly well but wouldn't call myself fluent. Setting up an aggregator is pretty simple in the former, no idea about the later. Happy to share administration/care&keeping responsibilities if anybody's interested in getting their feet wet.
John
On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
> Just moving this over to the dev list.
>
>
>
> We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>
>
>
> Please use this thread for discussion.
>
>
>
> Kelcey Jamison-Damage
>
> Infrastructure Systems Architect
>
>
>
> Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
>
> 55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
>
> kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
>
>
>
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Senner, Talin" <se...@wildcardcorp.com>.
For powerful features such as feeds in and out, i'd recommend Plone +
Feedfeeder via PYPI. We use it for news and blog aggregation on some
sites with great success. With the power of Plone you also get
discussions, commenting, granular security, self signup etc.. as well.
Talin
Wildcard Corp.
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On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) <ke...@bbits.ca> wrote:
> I am all ready to test. Let me know when the system is built.
>
> I'm most interested in the functionality of the experience than anything
> else. Also hopefully the aggregator we choose supports image-blogging.
>
>
> Kelcey Jamison-Damage
> Infrastructure Systems Architect
>
> Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
> 55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
> kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:56 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:57:16PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
>>> > Just moving this over to the dev list.
>>> >
>>> > We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>>>
>>> Possible goals for the aggregator:
>>>
>>> 1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
>>> tagged RSS feeds)
>>>
>>> 2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
>>> tagged RSS feeds)
>>>
>>> 3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
>>> as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
>>> other.
>>>
>>>
>>> What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But
>>> our choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
>>
>> I'd suggest 1+2, possibly 3. I'm not worried about "noise" from 3, but
>> if my blog is eventually aggregated, I'd prefer to not worry about
>> annoying others if I decide to post a fair amount of non-CS content.
>>
>>> Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure (e.g.
>>> planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment to
>>> being an Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting access
>>> to such, but would be willing to learn. I couldn't find examples of
>>> other Apache projects having their own aggregators, so we may be
>>> breaking new ground here with ASF Infrastructure.
>>
>> There's at least two, one that was well established before it became
>> an Apache project.
>>
>> Planet OpenOffice: http://planetopenoffice.org/
>>
>> Planet Cassandra: http://planetcassandra.org/
>>
>
> Subversion appears to have one as well:
> http://jc.ngo.org.uk/~nik/planet-subversion/
>
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
I am all ready to test. Let me know when the system is built.
I'm most interested in the functionality of the experience than anything
else. Also hopefully the aggregator we choose supports image-blogging.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nalley [mailto:david@gnsa.us]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:56 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:57:16PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
>> > Just moving this over to the dev list.
>> >
>> > We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>>
>> Possible goals for the aggregator:
>>
>> 1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
>> tagged RSS feeds)
>>
>> 2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
>> tagged RSS feeds)
>>
>> 3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
>> as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
>> other.
>>
>>
>> What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But
>> our choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
>
> I'd suggest 1+2, possibly 3. I'm not worried about "noise" from 3, but
> if my blog is eventually aggregated, I'd prefer to not worry about
> annoying others if I decide to post a fair amount of non-CS content.
>
>> Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure (e.g.
>> planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment to
>> being an Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting access
>> to such, but would be willing to learn. I couldn't find examples of
>> other Apache projects having their own aggregators, so we may be
>> breaking new ground here with ASF Infrastructure.
>
> There's at least two, one that was well established before it became
> an Apache project.
>
> Planet OpenOffice: http://planetopenoffice.org/
>
> Planet Cassandra: http://planetcassandra.org/
>
Subversion appears to have one as well:
http://jc.ngo.org.uk/~nik/planet-subversion/
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:57:16PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
>> > Just moving this over to the dev list.
>> >
>> > We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>>
>> Possible goals for the aggregator:
>>
>> 1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
>> tagged RSS feeds)
>>
>> 2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
>> tagged RSS feeds)
>>
>> 3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
>> as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
>> other.
>>
>>
>> What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But
>> our choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
>
> I'd suggest 1+2, possibly 3. I'm not worried about "noise" from 3, but
> if my blog is eventually aggregated, I'd prefer to not worry about
> annoying others if I decide to post a fair amount of non-CS content.
>
>> Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure
>> (e.g. planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment
>> to being an Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting
>> access to such, but would be willing to learn. I couldn't find
>> examples of other Apache projects having their own aggregators, so we
>> may be breaking new ground here with ASF Infrastructure.
>
> There's at least two, one that was well established before it became an
> Apache project.
>
> Planet OpenOffice: http://planetopenoffice.org/
>
> Planet Cassandra: http://planetcassandra.org/
>
Subversion appears to have one as well:
http://jc.ngo.org.uk/~nik/planet-subversion/
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:57:16PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
> > Just moving this over to the dev list.
> >
> > We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>
> Possible goals for the aggregator:
>
> 1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
> tagged RSS feeds)
>
> 2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
> tagged RSS feeds)
>
> 3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
> as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
> other.
>
>
> What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But
> our choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
I'd suggest 1+2, possibly 3. I'm not worried about "noise" from 3, but
if my blog is eventually aggregated, I'd prefer to not worry about
annoying others if I decide to post a fair amount of non-CS content.
> Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure
> (e.g. planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment
> to being an Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting
> access to such, but would be willing to learn. I couldn't find
> examples of other Apache projects having their own aggregators, so we
> may be breaking new ground here with ASF Infrastructure.
There's at least two, one that was well established before it became an
Apache project.
Planet OpenOffice: http://planetopenoffice.org/
Planet Cassandra: http://planetcassandra.org/
Best,
Joe
--
Joe Brockmeier
http://dissociatedpress.net/
Twitter: @jzb
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by John Kinsella <jl...@stratosec.co>.
On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
>> Just moving this over to the dev list.
>>
>> We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>
> Possible goals for the aggregator:
>
> 1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
> tagged RSS feeds)
>
> 2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
> tagged RSS feeds)
>
> 3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
> as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
> other.
I'd like to see a mix of all 3.
> What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But
> our choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
>
> Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure
> (e.g. planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment
> to being an Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting
> access to such, but would be willing to learn. I couldn't find
> examples of other Apache projects having their own aggregators, so we
> may be breaking new ground here with ASF Infrastructure.
I agree with the idea of using a.o infrastructure…Question is if it's flexible enough for what we're thinking - planet apache seems to be specifically for committers. Do we want the scope to be that narrow?
It looks like https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/planet/committers.ini should have support for multiple planets, but looking at the feeds, it seems like it's taking general blog feeds, not specifically posts related to a specified topic…
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Matt Domsch <Ma...@dell.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
> > Just moving this over to the dev list.
> >
> > We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
>
> Possible goals for the aggregator:
>
> 1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
> tagged RSS feeds)
>
> 2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
> tagged RSS feeds)
>
> 3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
> as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
> other.
>
>
> What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But
> our choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
>
> Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure
> (e.g. planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment
> to being an Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting
> access to such, but would be willing to learn. I couldn't find
> examples of other Apache projects having their own aggregators, so we
> may be breaking new ground here with ASF Infrastructure.
>
We can have a blog for the project on which committers can add blog
entries, but I believe users won't be able to write to it
In that case a committer can add a blog entry to the user's one
For using our own blog aggregation I don't see a problem about it, and for
the trademarks issues we can just stick to it and that is all which are not
much IIRC.
Having our own Blog aggregation does not mean that we are not committed to
the community, but maybe what can be offered now does not provide us with
all what we need.
For sure we could check with the INFRA team 1st and see what can be done
about that and whether we can setup something using which we can give
access to users or not.
I can get in touch with them by tomorrow.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
> --
> Matt Domsch
> Technology Strategist
> Dell | Office of the CTO
>
--
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein
RE: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by "Kelcey Damage (BBITS)" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
As long as it remains community driven and managed.
This should be about sharing knowledge and not introducing any form of
bureaucracy of tiering in content.
Kelcey Jamison-Damage
Infrastructure Systems Architect
Backbone IT Service | Backbone Datavault | Backbone Technology
55 East 7th Ave Vancouver - BC Canada V5T 1M4
kelcey@bbits.ca | 604-331-1152 ext. 114
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Domsch [mailto:Matt_Domsch@dell.com]
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:57 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: infra-dev@apache.org
Subject: Re: Planet Cloudstack
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
> Just moving this over to the dev list.
>
> We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
Possible goals for the aggregator:
1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
tagged RSS feeds)
2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
tagged RSS feeds)
3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
other.
What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But our
choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure (e.g.
planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment to being an
Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting access to such, but
would be willing to learn. I couldn't find examples of other Apache
projects having their own aggregators, so we may be breaking new ground here
with ASF Infrastructure.
Thanks,
Matt
--
Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist
Dell | Office of the CTO
Re: Planet Cloudstack
Posted by Matt Domsch <Ma...@dell.com>.
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 02:14:18PM -0500, Kelcey Damage (BBITS) wrote:
> Just moving this over to the dev list.
>
> We are building a blog aggregator, kindly hosted by jlkinsel.
Possible goals for the aggregator:
1) allow CS developers to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
tagged RSS feeds)
2) allow CS users to post about their CS work (e.g. pull specific
tagged RSS feeds)
3) allow CS developers to post anything (not necessarily CS-related),
as a way to build community by knowing a little more about each
other.
What do people want to see? Personally, I'm OK with all three. But
our choice may affect where it's hosted and who runs it.
Wherever possible I'd like to see CS use ASF Infrastructure
(e.g. planet.apache.org/cloudstack). That reinforces our commitment
to being an Apache project. I don't know how to go about getting
access to such, but would be willing to learn. I couldn't find
examples of other Apache projects having their own aggregators, so we
may be breaking new ground here with ASF Infrastructure.
Thanks,
Matt
--
Matt Domsch
Technology Strategist
Dell | Office of the CTO