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Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
interested folks meeting up more often.
Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
Curious what folks think!
Best,
Jason
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Justin Sweeney <ju...@gmail.com>.
Personally I think this would be great, it'd be nice to connect with others
in the community and hear more about pain points, new ideas, etc. One
suggestion is it might be useful to have a running Google Doc that people
can add items into for discussion at future meetings. This could help
provide some organization of upcoming topics and provide a FIFO ordering
for what is discussed.
Justin
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 12:31 PM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
>
> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> interested folks meeting up more often.
>
> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
>
> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> Curious what folks think!
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
Looking forward to it!
~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 1:08 PM Anshum Gupta <an...@anshumgupta.net> wrote:
> Great idea, Jason! Keeping it lightweight is going to be useful in
> organizing these.
>
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:30 AM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> > virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> >
> > We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> > that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> > said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> > whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> > interested folks meeting up more often.
> >
> > Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> > time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> > There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> > a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> > awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> > enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> >
> > If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> > folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> > could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> > Curious what folks think!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> >
> >
>
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> Anshum Gupta
>
Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Anshum Gupta <an...@anshumgupta.net>.
Great idea, Jason! Keeping it lightweight is going to be useful in
organizing these.
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:30 AM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
>
> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> interested folks meeting up more often.
>
> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
>
> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> Curious what folks think!
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>.
+1, thanks for volunteering.
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 11:02 PM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That makes sense to me I think. Each month anyone can volunteer to
> run things, and they can pick a time that works for their local TZ.
> If no one in particular has volunteered, I'm happy to host-by-default.
>
> I'll host the first one to get things started. I'm traveling next
> week, but how about the following Monday (February 6th) at, say, noon
> ET?
>
> Jason
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:39 PM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > This is a great idea Jason!
> >
> > As per Jan's suggestion, I think it would be great for the host to pick a
> > time in their time zone, so that no one feels pressured. There's enough
> > community members around the globe to not stick to the US
> > timezones religiously.
> >
> > - Houston
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 6:12 AM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > +1 Let’s do it.
> > >
> > > > On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:24 AM, David Smiley <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We already have a precedent of using Confluence for meeting notes.
> > > Here's
> > > > the last one:
> > > >
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/2022-05-10+Meeting+notes
> > > >
> > > > An email that occurs per meeting would be good to remind folks that
> > > there's
> > > > about to be another meeting within a day or two, say. It should include
> > > a
> > > > link to this Confluence doc. I don't think a post-meeting email is
> > > > necessary, unlike the previous meetings I've done. Ideally the host
> > > > updates the doc to mention some topics discussed and some attendees but I
> > > > could understand if the new low-formality approach means this may not
> > > > happen.
> > > >
> > > > ~ David Smiley
> > > > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:13 AM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Awesome - sounds there's definitely some general interest. (Though the
> > > >> details need some hashing out.)
> > > >>
> > > >>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious?
> > > >>
> > > >> It might be. Maybe monthly is a better starting point. My hope was
> > > >> that making the meetings reasonably frequent would cut down on the
> > > >> pressure folks might feel to show up to any particular meeting. But
> > > >> maybe bi-weekly is ambitious to start. Let's say "monthly" then.
> > > >>
> > > >>> Who will host them all?
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm happy to volunteer, since I brought it up. In my mind that'd
> > > >> mostly involve (1) setting up a Zoom or Google Hangouts meeting, (2)
> > > >> sending a reminder email here a few days in advance with a video
> > > >> conferencing link, and then (3) opening up the meeting when the time
> > > >> comes.
> > > >>
> > > >>> Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
> > > >>
> > > >> I guess? I've worked at a few places now where the search team holds
> > > >> some form of "office hours" where folks might come with some PR
> > > >> needing review or some question to discuss, or they might show up
> > > >> "empty handed" just to hang out and learn from the discussions that
> > > >> others are having. And, even less formally, I'd point to the sort of
> > > >> informal hallway conversations that we all have when we have with our
> > > >> coworkers at work, or others in the community at conferences. Those
> > > >> were the two models that I guess I had in mind.
> > > >>
> > > >> That said - I appreciate how not having an agenda to advertise in
> > > >> advance makes it harder for folks deciding how to use their time. If
> > > >> folks prefer having a loose list of topics, let's do that. If the
> > > >> host sends out a reminder email a few days in advance, people planning
> > > >> to attend could advertise their suggested topic on that thread? Or a
> > > >> Google sheet or Confluence or anything else would work too. No real
> > > >> opinion on that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best,
> > > >>
> > > >> Jason
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:01 AM Noble Paul <no...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Even if we can get together once a month, that should be great.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Let's keep a google sheets to fill up items that we need to discuss .
> > > We
> > > >>> can just pick up the top items to discuss?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:17 PM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high
> > > >> frequency
> > > >>>> makes it more light weight..
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
> > > >>>> While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for
> > > community
> > > >>>> members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to
> > > >> pick
> > > >>>> just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings
> > > elsewhere?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to
> > > >> do
> > > >>>> that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they
> > > >> need to
> > > >>>> stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
> > > >>>> members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within
> > > >> the
> > > >>>> daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Jan
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <gerlowskija@gmail.com
> > > >>> :
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> > > >>>>> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> > > >>>>> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David
> > > >> has
> > > >>>>> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> > > >>>>> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> > > >>>>> interested folks meeting up more often.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> > > >>>>> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two
> > > >> weeks.
> > > >>>>> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> > > >>>>> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> > > >>>>> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> > > >>>>> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> > > >>>>> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> > > >>>>> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> > > >>>>> Curious what folks think!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Jason
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org
> > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
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> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>> -----------------------------------------------------
> > > >>> Noble Paul
> > > >>
> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
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> > > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>.
That makes sense to me I think. Each month anyone can volunteer to
run things, and they can pick a time that works for their local TZ.
If no one in particular has volunteered, I'm happy to host-by-default.
I'll host the first one to get things started. I'm traveling next
week, but how about the following Monday (February 6th) at, say, noon
ET?
Jason
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:39 PM Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> This is a great idea Jason!
>
> As per Jan's suggestion, I think it would be great for the host to pick a
> time in their time zone, so that no one feels pressured. There's enough
> community members around the globe to not stick to the US
> timezones religiously.
>
> - Houston
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 6:12 AM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 Let’s do it.
> >
> > > On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:24 AM, David Smiley <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > We already have a precedent of using Confluence for meeting notes.
> > Here's
> > > the last one:
> > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/2022-05-10+Meeting+notes
> > >
> > > An email that occurs per meeting would be good to remind folks that
> > there's
> > > about to be another meeting within a day or two, say. It should include
> > a
> > > link to this Confluence doc. I don't think a post-meeting email is
> > > necessary, unlike the previous meetings I've done. Ideally the host
> > > updates the doc to mention some topics discussed and some attendees but I
> > > could understand if the new low-formality approach means this may not
> > > happen.
> > >
> > > ~ David Smiley
> > > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:13 AM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Awesome - sounds there's definitely some general interest. (Though the
> > >> details need some hashing out.)
> > >>
> > >>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious?
> > >>
> > >> It might be. Maybe monthly is a better starting point. My hope was
> > >> that making the meetings reasonably frequent would cut down on the
> > >> pressure folks might feel to show up to any particular meeting. But
> > >> maybe bi-weekly is ambitious to start. Let's say "monthly" then.
> > >>
> > >>> Who will host them all?
> > >>
> > >> I'm happy to volunteer, since I brought it up. In my mind that'd
> > >> mostly involve (1) setting up a Zoom or Google Hangouts meeting, (2)
> > >> sending a reminder email here a few days in advance with a video
> > >> conferencing link, and then (3) opening up the meeting when the time
> > >> comes.
> > >>
> > >>> Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
> > >>
> > >> I guess? I've worked at a few places now where the search team holds
> > >> some form of "office hours" where folks might come with some PR
> > >> needing review or some question to discuss, or they might show up
> > >> "empty handed" just to hang out and learn from the discussions that
> > >> others are having. And, even less formally, I'd point to the sort of
> > >> informal hallway conversations that we all have when we have with our
> > >> coworkers at work, or others in the community at conferences. Those
> > >> were the two models that I guess I had in mind.
> > >>
> > >> That said - I appreciate how not having an agenda to advertise in
> > >> advance makes it harder for folks deciding how to use their time. If
> > >> folks prefer having a loose list of topics, let's do that. If the
> > >> host sends out a reminder email a few days in advance, people planning
> > >> to attend could advertise their suggested topic on that thread? Or a
> > >> Google sheet or Confluence or anything else would work too. No real
> > >> opinion on that.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:01 AM Noble Paul <no...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Even if we can get together once a month, that should be great.
> > >>>
> > >>> Let's keep a google sheets to fill up items that we need to discuss .
> > We
> > >>> can just pick up the top items to discuss?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:17 PM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high
> > >> frequency
> > >>>> makes it more light weight..
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
> > >>>> While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for
> > community
> > >>>> members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to
> > >> pick
> > >>>> just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings
> > elsewhere?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread
> > >> the
> > >>>> meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to
> > >> do
> > >>>> that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let
> > >> the
> > >>>> host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they
> > >> need to
> > >>>> stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
> > >>>> members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within
> > >> the
> > >>>> daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jan
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <gerlowskija@gmail.com
> > >>> :
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> > >>>>> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> > >>>>> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David
> > >> has
> > >>>>> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> > >>>>> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> > >>>>> interested folks meeting up more often.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> > >>>>> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two
> > >> weeks.
> > >>>>> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> > >>>>> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> > >>>>> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> > >>>>> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> > >>>>> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> > >>>>> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> > >>>>> Curious what folks think!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jason
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org
> > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> -----------------------------------------------------
> > >>> Noble Paul
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>
> > >>
> >
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> > http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
> > http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <
> > http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
> > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <
> > https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw>
> >
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Houston Putman <ho...@apache.org>.
This is a great idea Jason!
As per Jan's suggestion, I think it would be great for the host to pick a
time in their time zone, so that no one feels pressured. There's enough
community members around the globe to not stick to the US
timezones religiously.
- Houston
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 6:12 AM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
wrote:
> +1 Let’s do it.
>
> > On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:24 AM, David Smiley <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > We already have a precedent of using Confluence for meeting notes.
> Here's
> > the last one:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/2022-05-10+Meeting+notes
> >
> > An email that occurs per meeting would be good to remind folks that
> there's
> > about to be another meeting within a day or two, say. It should include
> a
> > link to this Confluence doc. I don't think a post-meeting email is
> > necessary, unlike the previous meetings I've done. Ideally the host
> > updates the doc to mention some topics discussed and some attendees but I
> > could understand if the new low-formality approach means this may not
> > happen.
> >
> > ~ David Smiley
> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:13 AM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Awesome - sounds there's definitely some general interest. (Though the
> >> details need some hashing out.)
> >>
> >>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious?
> >>
> >> It might be. Maybe monthly is a better starting point. My hope was
> >> that making the meetings reasonably frequent would cut down on the
> >> pressure folks might feel to show up to any particular meeting. But
> >> maybe bi-weekly is ambitious to start. Let's say "monthly" then.
> >>
> >>> Who will host them all?
> >>
> >> I'm happy to volunteer, since I brought it up. In my mind that'd
> >> mostly involve (1) setting up a Zoom or Google Hangouts meeting, (2)
> >> sending a reminder email here a few days in advance with a video
> >> conferencing link, and then (3) opening up the meeting when the time
> >> comes.
> >>
> >>> Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
> >>
> >> I guess? I've worked at a few places now where the search team holds
> >> some form of "office hours" where folks might come with some PR
> >> needing review or some question to discuss, or they might show up
> >> "empty handed" just to hang out and learn from the discussions that
> >> others are having. And, even less formally, I'd point to the sort of
> >> informal hallway conversations that we all have when we have with our
> >> coworkers at work, or others in the community at conferences. Those
> >> were the two models that I guess I had in mind.
> >>
> >> That said - I appreciate how not having an agenda to advertise in
> >> advance makes it harder for folks deciding how to use their time. If
> >> folks prefer having a loose list of topics, let's do that. If the
> >> host sends out a reminder email a few days in advance, people planning
> >> to attend could advertise their suggested topic on that thread? Or a
> >> Google sheet or Confluence or anything else would work too. No real
> >> opinion on that.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:01 AM Noble Paul <no...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Even if we can get together once a month, that should be great.
> >>>
> >>> Let's keep a google sheets to fill up items that we need to discuss .
> We
> >>> can just pick up the top items to discuss?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:17 PM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high
> >> frequency
> >>>> makes it more light weight..
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
> >>>> While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for
> community
> >>>> members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to
> >> pick
> >>>> just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings
> elsewhere?
> >>>>
> >>>> Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread
> >> the
> >>>> meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to
> >> do
> >>>> that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let
> >> the
> >>>> host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they
> >> need to
> >>>> stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
> >>>> members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within
> >> the
> >>>> daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
> >>>>
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>>> 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <gerlowskija@gmail.com
> >>> :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> >>>>> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> >>>>> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David
> >> has
> >>>>> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> >>>>> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> >>>>> interested folks meeting up more often.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> >>>>> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two
> >> weeks.
> >>>>> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> >>>>> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> >>>>> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> >>>>> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> >>>>> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> >>>>> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> >>>>> Curious what folks think!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jason
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>.
+1 Let’s do it.
> On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:24 AM, David Smiley <ds...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> We already have a precedent of using Confluence for meeting notes. Here's
> the last one:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/2022-05-10+Meeting+notes
>
> An email that occurs per meeting would be good to remind folks that there's
> about to be another meeting within a day or two, say. It should include a
> link to this Confluence doc. I don't think a post-meeting email is
> necessary, unlike the previous meetings I've done. Ideally the host
> updates the doc to mention some topics discussed and some attendees but I
> could understand if the new low-formality approach means this may not
> happen.
>
> ~ David Smiley
> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:13 AM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Awesome - sounds there's definitely some general interest. (Though the
>> details need some hashing out.)
>>
>>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious?
>>
>> It might be. Maybe monthly is a better starting point. My hope was
>> that making the meetings reasonably frequent would cut down on the
>> pressure folks might feel to show up to any particular meeting. But
>> maybe bi-weekly is ambitious to start. Let's say "monthly" then.
>>
>>> Who will host them all?
>>
>> I'm happy to volunteer, since I brought it up. In my mind that'd
>> mostly involve (1) setting up a Zoom or Google Hangouts meeting, (2)
>> sending a reminder email here a few days in advance with a video
>> conferencing link, and then (3) opening up the meeting when the time
>> comes.
>>
>>> Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
>>
>> I guess? I've worked at a few places now where the search team holds
>> some form of "office hours" where folks might come with some PR
>> needing review or some question to discuss, or they might show up
>> "empty handed" just to hang out and learn from the discussions that
>> others are having. And, even less formally, I'd point to the sort of
>> informal hallway conversations that we all have when we have with our
>> coworkers at work, or others in the community at conferences. Those
>> were the two models that I guess I had in mind.
>>
>> That said - I appreciate how not having an agenda to advertise in
>> advance makes it harder for folks deciding how to use their time. If
>> folks prefer having a loose list of topics, let's do that. If the
>> host sends out a reminder email a few days in advance, people planning
>> to attend could advertise their suggested topic on that thread? Or a
>> Google sheet or Confluence or anything else would work too. No real
>> opinion on that.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:01 AM Noble Paul <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Even if we can get together once a month, that should be great.
>>>
>>> Let's keep a google sheets to fill up items that we need to discuss . We
>>> can just pick up the top items to discuss?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:17 PM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high
>> frequency
>>>> makes it more light weight..
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
>>>> While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for community
>>>> members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to
>> pick
>>>> just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread
>> the
>>>> meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to
>> do
>>>> that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let
>> the
>>>> host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they
>> need to
>>>> stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
>>>> members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within
>> the
>>>> daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>> 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <gerlowskija@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
>>>>> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
>>>>>
>>>>> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
>>>>> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David
>> has
>>>>> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
>>>>> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
>>>>> interested folks meeting up more often.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
>>>>> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two
>> weeks.
>>>>> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
>>>>> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
>>>>> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
>>>>> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
>>>>>
>>>>> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
>>>>> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
>>>>> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
>>>>> Curious what folks think!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org
>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>> Noble Paul
>>
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
We already have a precedent of using Confluence for meeting notes. Here's
the last one:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/2022-05-10+Meeting+notes
An email that occurs per meeting would be good to remind folks that there's
about to be another meeting within a day or two, say. It should include a
link to this Confluence doc. I don't think a post-meeting email is
necessary, unlike the previous meetings I've done. Ideally the host
updates the doc to mention some topics discussed and some attendees but I
could understand if the new low-formality approach means this may not
happen.
~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:13 AM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Awesome - sounds there's definitely some general interest. (Though the
> details need some hashing out.)
>
> > I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious?
>
> It might be. Maybe monthly is a better starting point. My hope was
> that making the meetings reasonably frequent would cut down on the
> pressure folks might feel to show up to any particular meeting. But
> maybe bi-weekly is ambitious to start. Let's say "monthly" then.
>
> > Who will host them all?
>
> I'm happy to volunteer, since I brought it up. In my mind that'd
> mostly involve (1) setting up a Zoom or Google Hangouts meeting, (2)
> sending a reminder email here a few days in advance with a video
> conferencing link, and then (3) opening up the meeting when the time
> comes.
>
> > Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
>
> I guess? I've worked at a few places now where the search team holds
> some form of "office hours" where folks might come with some PR
> needing review or some question to discuss, or they might show up
> "empty handed" just to hang out and learn from the discussions that
> others are having. And, even less formally, I'd point to the sort of
> informal hallway conversations that we all have when we have with our
> coworkers at work, or others in the community at conferences. Those
> were the two models that I guess I had in mind.
>
> That said - I appreciate how not having an agenda to advertise in
> advance makes it harder for folks deciding how to use their time. If
> folks prefer having a loose list of topics, let's do that. If the
> host sends out a reminder email a few days in advance, people planning
> to attend could advertise their suggested topic on that thread? Or a
> Google sheet or Confluence or anything else would work too. No real
> opinion on that.
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:01 AM Noble Paul <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Even if we can get together once a month, that should be great.
> >
> > Let's keep a google sheets to fill up items that we need to discuss . We
> > can just pick up the top items to discuss?
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:17 PM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high
> frequency
> > > makes it more light weight..
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
> > > While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for community
> > > members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to
> pick
> > > just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
> > >
> > > Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread
> the
> > > meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to
> do
> > > that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let
> the
> > > host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they
> need to
> > > stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
> > > members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within
> the
> > > daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > > > 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <gerlowskija@gmail.com
> >:
> > > >
> > > > What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> > > > virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> > > >
> > > > We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> > > > that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David
> has
> > > > said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> > > > whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> > > > interested folks meeting up more often.
> > > >
> > > > Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> > > > time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two
> weeks.
> > > > There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> > > > a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> > > > awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> > > > enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> > > >
> > > > If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> > > > folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> > > > could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> > > > Curious what folks think!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
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>
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>
Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>.
Awesome - sounds there's definitely some general interest. (Though the
details need some hashing out.)
> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious?
It might be. Maybe monthly is a better starting point. My hope was
that making the meetings reasonably frequent would cut down on the
pressure folks might feel to show up to any particular meeting. But
maybe bi-weekly is ambitious to start. Let's say "monthly" then.
> Who will host them all?
I'm happy to volunteer, since I brought it up. In my mind that'd
mostly involve (1) setting up a Zoom or Google Hangouts meeting, (2)
sending a reminder email here a few days in advance with a video
conferencing link, and then (3) opening up the meeting when the time
comes.
> Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
I guess? I've worked at a few places now where the search team holds
some form of "office hours" where folks might come with some PR
needing review or some question to discuss, or they might show up
"empty handed" just to hang out and learn from the discussions that
others are having. And, even less formally, I'd point to the sort of
informal hallway conversations that we all have when we have with our
coworkers at work, or others in the community at conferences. Those
were the two models that I guess I had in mind.
That said - I appreciate how not having an agenda to advertise in
advance makes it harder for folks deciding how to use their time. If
folks prefer having a loose list of topics, let's do that. If the
host sends out a reminder email a few days in advance, people planning
to attend could advertise their suggested topic on that thread? Or a
Google sheet or Confluence or anything else would work too. No real
opinion on that.
Best,
Jason
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 6:01 AM Noble Paul <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Even if we can get together once a month, that should be great.
>
> Let's keep a google sheets to fill up items that we need to discuss . We
> can just pick up the top items to discuss?
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:17 PM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
>
> > Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high frequency
> > makes it more light weight..
> >
> > I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
> > While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for community
> > members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to pick
> > just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
> >
> > Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread the
> > meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to do
> > that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let the
> > host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they need to
> > stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
> > members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within the
> > daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > > 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> > > virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> > >
> > > We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> > > that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> > > said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> > > whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> > > interested folks meeting up more often.
> > >
> > > Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> > > time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> > > There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> > > a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> > > awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> > > enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> > >
> > > If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> > > folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> > > could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> > > Curious what folks think!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> > >
> >
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Noble Paul <no...@gmail.com>.
Even if we can get together once a month, that should be great.
Let's keep a google sheets to fill up items that we need to discuss . We
can just pick up the top items to discuss?
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 9:17 PM Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
> Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high frequency
> makes it more light weight..
>
> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
> While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for community
> members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to pick
> just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
>
> Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread the
> meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to do
> that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let the
> host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they need to
> stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
> members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within the
> daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
>
> Jan
>
> > 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> > virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> >
> > We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> > that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> > said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> > whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> > interested folks meeting up more often.
> >
> > Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> > time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> > There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> > a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> > awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> > enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> >
> > If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> > folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> > could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> > Curious what folks think!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@solr.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@solr.apache.org
> >
>
>
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Andy Lester <an...@petdance.com>.
> We can set it up as a recurrent meeting, inviting all the committers as
> optional (but also open to contributors that want to join?)
I'm not a committer, but I'd be interested as well.
I would think we'd want it as inclusive as possible. In other projects, I've seen similar ideas get locked down tight because organizers don't want to have a lot of noise from people talking about stuff that's not part of the core purpose, but I don't think that makes much sense. I've never seen an open source project that's cursed with the problem of too much participation vs. not enough.
Andy
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Alessandro Benedetti <a....@sease.io>.
It's a great idea Jason!
We can set it up as a recurrent meeting, inviting all the committers as
optional (but also open to contributors that want to join?)
In this way when it's on the calendar, each contributor can decide when to
come and when not based on their availability.
If we leave the description of each occurrence, open for edits, potentially
people can add topics they would like to discuss, it will be a sort of "no
necessary agenda but people are encouraged to set a list of potential
topics".
Having all the committers attending every two weeks is definitely
ambitious, but setting the meeting as optional but frequent could increase
the probability of having people attending one meeting or another.
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 11:17, Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com> wrote:
> Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high frequency
> makes it more light weight..
>
> I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all?
> While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for community
> members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to pick
> just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
>
> Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread the
> meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to do
> that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let the
> host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they need to
> stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community
> members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within the
> daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
>
> Jan
>
> > 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> > virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
> >
> > We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> > that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> > said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> > whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> > interested folks meeting up more often.
> >
> > Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> > time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> > There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> > a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> > awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> > enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
> >
> > If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> > folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> > could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> > Curious what folks think!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jason
> >
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by Jan Høydahl <ja...@cominvent.com>.
Kudos for the initiative. Light-weight is always good, and high frequency makes it more light weight..
I'm wondering if bi-weekly is a bit ambitious? Who will host them all? While no agenda is low-maintenance, it also makes it hard for community members to choose which meetings they want to attend if they need to pick just a few? Do you have experience with "no-agenda" meetings elsewhere?
Being a large distributed community, it would also be nice to spread the meetings across differnet week-days and time zones. One natural way to do that would be to assign a host for each meeting ahead of time, and let the host choose a suitable time in his/her own TZ without feeling they need to stay up at night to be "inclusive". Or is the number of U.S. community members simply so large that every meeting should at least be within the daytime hours of both west- and east coast?
Jan
> 23. jan. 2023 kl. 20:29 skrev Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>:
>
> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
>
> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> interested folks meeting up more often.
>
> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
>
> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> Curious what folks think!
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
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Re: Recurring (Virtual) Community "Meetups"
Posted by David Smiley <ds...@apache.org>.
I like the idea! I've been feeling guilty for not running more of
the "committers meetings". I don't think "a lot of work" is accurate but
it's enough work that it's a barrier :-) so maybe I'm splitting hairs here.
That, and some worry that I may not be inclusive enough by picking a
timezone convenient to me... but this doesn't stop someone from hosting a
similar event at a time convenient to them.
It'd be great to see contributors as well.
~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 2:31 PM Jason Gerlowski <ge...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> What would everyone here think about having some sort of semi-regular
> virtual "meetup" for committers/community-members?
>
> We've done something similar to this with the "committers meetings"
> that've been held in the past. Those work great, but I know David has
> said they're a lot of work to put together. I've been wondering
> whether a more impromptu, less-organized format might support
> interested folks meeting up more often.
>
> Here's a strawman suggestion to build from: let's set up a standing
> time when folks could hop on a Google Hangout (Zoom?) every two weeks.
> There'd be no agenda in-advance - folks could come with a question or
> a topic in mind, or just to chat with folks they haven't seen in
> awhile or to hear what others are working on. If the group is large
> enough we could do breakout rooms (or something similar).
>
> If there's interest I'd be willing to set up a trial-run with a few
> folks later this week, say, Thursday at 3 (ET). Or, alternately, we
> could refine the idea for a bit and do a trial run in a few weeks.
> Curious what folks think!
>
> Best,
>
> Jason
>
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